No kiddin'. At least I am honest with my postings[TUF]Catbox wrote:
I have to agree... if you think your kids can be an example... maybe you could move to the hood and the whole family can be a beacon of light...
Last edited by lowing (2009-01-16 02:23:34)
When did I say I would move my family to an area just be a beacon of light. Get real, and stop putting words in my mouth. I moved to my current location because it was my wife's grandmas house and we got a great deal from her parents. Both sets of grandparents are a 30 min drive away in the same town as each other.lowing wrote:
1. really? So you are a guy that decides where to move to based on how much help your kids can bring to a school? very noble of you. Because we all know that is the first question asked. Where will my kids do the most good in a community? Please forgive me if I call that bullshit.
I actually would if I ever get the opportunity.lowing wrote:
2. MAybe you would consider taking some inner city gang bangers hunting and jet skiing with your family, ya know, so your kids can help them
1. I didn't put words in your mouth, you said your kids could help, you didn't say anthing about getting a great deal on a house before. With this new ifo can I assume you wouldn't have moved there if not for your ties to this house?LividBovine wrote:
When did I say I would move my family to an area just be a beacon of light. Get real, and stop putting words in my mouth. I moved to my current location because it was my wife's grandmas house and we got a great deal from her parents. Both sets of grandparents are a 30 min drive away in the same town as each other.lowing wrote:
1. really? So you are a guy that decides where to move to based on how much help your kids can bring to a school? very noble of you. Because we all know that is the first question asked. Where will my kids do the most good in a community? Please forgive me if I call that bullshit.I actually would if I ever get the opportunity.lowing wrote:
2. MAybe you would consider taking some inner city gang bangers hunting and jet skiing with your family, ya know, so your kids can help them
Maybe we should all avoid anything that may have us interact with anybody we don't deem fit to be in our presence. Generalizing it enough for you.
Look out for number 1? Thanks, don't mind if I do.LividBovine wrote:
How noble of you Lowing. Good to see there are so many like out there. Let's look out for ole number 1.
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Putting words in my mouth again, thanks.lowing wrote:
Look out for number 1? Thanks, don't mind if I do.LividBovine wrote:
How noble of you Lowing. Good to see there are so many like out there. Let's look out for ole number 1.
a lack of PC at least makes my posts believable, all of your high road bullshit? I do not believe for one minute. You will not have your kids pick some gang bangers to take them with you on your family trips, you did not move to an area based on where you felt your kids could bring the most good. YOu are simply fulla shit today, so please take off your PC and jump in, the water is fine.
1. Well if you are claiming that you will keep and or move your kids in a shitty school system in hopes that they make a difference, I am gunna call you liar. If you are going to tell me that you plan on taking some troubled kids from the inner city with you on youtr next family vacation, I again am calling you a liar. This is not t osay you would not join a structured program that helps inner city kids, I think you would. That is not the same as doing it privately however.LividBovine wrote:
Putting words in my mouth again, thanks.lowing wrote:
Look out for number 1? Thanks, don't mind if I do.LividBovine wrote:
How noble of you Lowing. Good to see there are so many like out there. Let's look out for ole number 1.
a lack of PC at least makes my posts believable, all of your high road bullshit? I do not believe for one minute. You will not have your kids pick some gang bangers to take them with you on your family trips, you did not move to an area based on where you felt your kids could bring the most good. YOu are simply fulla shit today, so please take off your PC and jump in, the water is fine.
Never said I moved them to an area to make a difference. Just said I would not move them away from making a difference.
You obviously don't know me. I have never lied about anything on here and always speak my own mind. Well, maybe my wife tells me what to say sometimes. Different story though.
Simple answer here is that I disagree with you about moving children out of school because you want to protect them and give them a better chance in a better school. I wouldn't do it and when I had the chance did not do it. Simple as that.
Just watch what you say about my character.
I will always look out for my child as number 1. He is my top priority in life and It's sad that not all parents do seeing how that is their parental obligation.LividBovine wrote:
How noble of you Lowing. Good to see there are so many like out there. Let's look out for ole number 1.
I guess in your eyes I am a liar then. I would keep my kids in a bad school system so they could make a difference. Within reason of course.lowing wrote:
1. Well if you are claiming that you will keep and or move your kids in a shitty school system in hopes that they make a difference, I am gunna call you liar. If you are going to tell me that you plan on taking some troubled kids from the inner city with you on youtr next family vacation, I again am calling you a liar. This is not t osay you would not join a structured program that helps inner city kids, I think you would. That is not the same as doing it privately however.LividBovine wrote:
Putting words in my mouth again, thanks.lowing wrote:
Look out for number 1? Thanks, don't mind if I do.
a lack of PC at least makes my posts believable, all of your high road bullshit? I do not believe for one minute. You will not have your kids pick some gang bangers to take them with you on your family trips, you did not move to an area based on where you felt your kids could bring the most good. YOu are simply fulla shit today, so please take off your PC and jump in, the water is fine.
Never said I moved them to an area to make a difference. Just said I would not move them away from making a difference.
You obviously don't know me. I have never lied about anything on here and always speak my own mind. Well, maybe my wife tells me what to say sometimes. Different story though.
Simple answer here is that I disagree with you about moving children out of school because you want to protect them and give them a better chance in a better school. I wouldn't do it and when I had the chance did not do it. Simple as that.
Just watch what you say about my character.
( assuming you are normal thinking).
2. The OP addresses segragation, I offered my reasons for this, nothing more nothing less
Well, honestly, am I the only one ( except catbox) that thinks "bullshit" when ya read that?deeznutz1245 wrote:
I will always look out for my child as number 1. He is my top priority in life and It's sad that not all parents do seeing how that is their parental obligation.LividBovine wrote:
How noble of you Lowing. Good to see there are so many like out there. Let's look out for ole number 1.
Well honestly Bovine has it backwards. I am Glad that Lowing is loking out for his family because now he has done his job and I don't have to pay for them. If more people looked out for number one then the rest of us won't have to do it for them.lowing wrote:
Well, honestly, am I the only one ( except catbox) that thinks "bullshit" when ya read that?deeznutz1245 wrote:
I will always look out for my child as number 1. He is my top priority in life and It's sad that not all parents do seeing how that is their parental obligation.LividBovine wrote:
How noble of you Lowing. Good to see there are so many like out there. Let's look out for ole number 1.
Kinda the theme for all my postsdeeznutz1245 wrote:
Well honestly Bovine has it backwards. I am Glad that Lowing is loking out for his family because now he has done his job and I don't have to pay for them. If more people looked out for number one then the rest of us won't have to do it for them.lowing wrote:
Well, honestly, am I the only one ( except catbox) that thinks "bullshit" when ya read that?deeznutz1245 wrote:
I will always look out for my child as number 1. He is my top priority in life and It's sad that not all parents do seeing how that is their parental obligation.
Nothing wrong with helping others, but to purposely move to, or stay in an undesireable area when you have a choice is simply not believeable.LividBovine wrote:
Yeah, bad on me for taking care of my own AND maybe teaching others how to grow up and take care of their own. Don't confuse me with someone looking for hand outs. I have defending you Lowing on many accounts concerning personal responsability.
If I was to live in an area such as you describe I would send my kids to the school and welcome the integration. I have not and will not move into an are just to make a difference. You are stretching the scenario a bit.lowing wrote:
Nothing wrong with helping others, but to purposely move to, or stay in an undesireable area when you have a choice is simply not believeable.LividBovine wrote:
Yeah, bad on me for taking care of my own AND maybe teaching others how to grow up and take care of their own. Don't confuse me with someone looking for hand outs. I have defending you Lowing on many accounts concerning personal responsability.
This thread is about segragation, and basically you are saying you would integrate into a shitty nirghborhood for the greater good of teaching your children selflessness. I just do not believe that you or anyone on this forum would do that.
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Sorry, but I think you would move if your nieghborhood and your kids school turned to shit, and I do not think you would welcome the "diversity" that comes with minorities moving into an area. Again I do not like saying it, and I know it is not PC but the fact remains, generally when minorites move in, the area including the schools go down the tubes. You know this to be true, and yes, for you to deny this and welcome the changes minority integration in reality brings, I do not believe you. Tell ya what though, I wil apologize for calling you a liar, that is outta line. I will revise my statement to say, I think you believe your good intentions but you will succumb to the realities of the sitution, and move.LividBovine wrote:
If I was to live in an area such as you describe I would send my kids to the school and welcome the integration. I have not and will not move into an are just to make a difference. You are stretching the scenario a bit.lowing wrote:
Nothing wrong with helping others, but to purposely move to, or stay in an undesireable area when you have a choice is simply not believeable.LividBovine wrote:
Yeah, bad on me for taking care of my own AND maybe teaching others how to grow up and take care of their own. Don't confuse me with someone looking for hand outs. I have defending you Lowing on many accounts concerning personal responsability.
This thread is about segragation, and basically you are saying you would integrate into a shitty nirghborhood for the greater good of teaching your children selflessness. I just do not believe that you or anyone on this forum would do that.
I started this whole thing with a simple example of how we as a family decided to not take the easy way out. You then stretched the thing to test my resolve concerning my beliefs. You then call me a liar when I tell you what I would do in the circustances I laid out. You then stretched those to further test me and I have been trying to keep you honest about what I have said or not said ever since.
I am done with work now so it is bedtime. Later.
Edit: I will check my phone for your response on my way home to see how you try to call me a liar again.
Last edited by lowing (2009-01-16 06:55:17)
You are correct it is presumptuous. It is also based on the reality of the average person living in America. If you are somehow pursuing sainthood or something, I bow to your greater nobility. However, you must forgive me, I was merely playing the odds that I was talking to a regular Joe who in closed circles thinks just like me ( except I have no class and will speak the truth regardless as to how much it hurts or it shocks.LividBovine wrote:
Well thanks for the apology. The fact remains though that you are telling me how I would act in a given situation. Without knowing me and my family, that is a bit presumptious at the very least.
Last edited by lowing (2009-01-16 17:33:54)
The fact that for you to speak openly your views, that it must be done on the assumption your talking to the average American and on the conditional requirement it is within closed circles says a lot about the reality your living in lowing.lowing wrote:
It is also based on the reality of the average person living in America. If you are somehow pursuing sainthood or something, I bow to your greater nobility. However, you must forgive me, I was merely playing the odds that I was talking to a regular Joe who in closed circles thinks just like me ( except I have no class and will speak the truth regardless as to how much it hurts or it shocks.
Oh I invented white flight, I made up the fact that crime follows minorites out of the city, I made up the fact that minorites bring down property values. Yup I made it all up. None of it is true. Sorry, I do not make up the rules, I do however what is going on around me. Regardless of it is noble or not.TheAussieReaper wrote:
The fact that for you to speak openly your views, that it must be done on the assumption your talking to the average American and on the conditional requirement it is within closed circles says a lot about the reality your living in lowing.lowing wrote:
It is also based on the reality of the average person living in America. If you are somehow pursuing sainthood or something, I bow to your greater nobility. However, you must forgive me, I was merely playing the odds that I was talking to a regular Joe who in closed circles thinks just like me ( except I have no class and will speak the truth regardless as to how much it hurts or it shocks.
If you moved into a wealthy hollywood suburb, purchased a mansion after winning the lottery and met the neighbours, do you think they would consider you outside trash "new money" and undeserving to live their? Your just going to bring the propety values down with your non-luxury car sitting in the drive way, your damn kids leaving their bicycles on the lawn for everybody to see, and you coming from a non-famous background. You simply got lucky.lowing wrote:
Oh I invented white flight, I made up the fact that crime follows minorites out of the city, I made up the fact that minorites bring down property values. Yup I made it all up. None of it is true. Sorry, I do not make up the rules, I do however what is going on around me. Regardless of it is noble or not.
Do you know what you did not do? You did not deny what I said was true.TheAussieReaper wrote:
If you moved into a wealthy hollywood suburb, purchased a mansion after winning the lottery and met the neighbours, do you think they would consider you outside trash "new money" and undeserving to live their? Your just going to bring the propety values down with your non-luxury car sitting in the drive way, your damn kids leaving their bicycles on the lawn for everybody to see, and you coming from a non-famous background. You simply got lucky.lowing wrote:
Oh I invented white flight, I made up the fact that crime follows minorites out of the city, I made up the fact that minorites bring down property values. Yup I made it all up. None of it is true. Sorry, I do not make up the rules, I do however what is going on around me. Regardless of it is noble or not.
I don't think it gives them the right to tell you where your kids go to school. Where you are allowed to live. Or how you are to segregate yourself from the rest of them. And I don't think you'd enjoy that either.
I'm trying to work out if you feel segregation of the lower classes should apply to segregation of you from higher classes also.lowing wrote:
Do you know what you did not do? You did not deny what I said was true.TheAussieReaper wrote:
If you moved into a wealthy hollywood suburb, purchased a mansion after winning the lottery and met the neighbours, do you think they would consider you outside trash "new money" and undeserving to live their? Your just going to bring the propety values down with your non-luxury car sitting in the drive way, your damn kids leaving their bicycles on the lawn for everybody to see, and you coming from a non-famous background. You simply got lucky.lowing wrote:
Oh I invented white flight, I made up the fact that crime follows minorites out of the city, I made up the fact that minorites bring down property values. Yup I made it all up. None of it is true. Sorry, I do not make up the rules, I do however what is going on around me. Regardless of it is noble or not.
I don't think it gives them the right to tell you where your kids go to school. Where you are allowed to live. Or how you are to segregate yourself from the rest of them. And I don't think you'd enjoy that either.