sniperhawk51
Banned
+4|5887
hello anyone  i heard about old past  " best sniper"    i dont see anything  in my name  in the post  i bet they dont know about sniperhawk51 much.
i dont think  vote for sniperhawk   for best sniper   ha
well i am in 6th sniper rifle for current.   i am in wookie clan of member.   http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/49050529/
Bull3t
stephen brule
+83|6514
Kull in my opinion.

sniperhawk51 wrote:

hello anyone  i heard about old past  " best sniper"    i dont see anything  in my name  in the post  i bet they dont know about sniperhawk51 much.
i dont think  vote for sniperhawk   for best sniper   ha
well i am in 6th sniper rifle for current.   i am in wookie clan of member.   http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/49050529/
It's more than rank.

Last edited by Bull3t (2009-01-13 13:32:33)

sniperhawk51
Banned
+4|5887
xkullx  insane   he had 180 accounts in bf2   what good for him?
JoshP
Banned
+176|5901|Notts, UK

sniperhawk51 wrote:

http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/49050529/
nourdoingitrong
ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE
oh hai :D
+156|6863|The Netherlands

JoshP wrote:

sniperhawk51 wrote:

http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/49050529/
nourdoingitrong
bf2s just counts the 65k kills he wants to show he haz over 100k amg (A) im to nubish for this list btw
OneShot1Ki||
Member
+1|5818
I don't watch any of these sniper vids, I cant see shit in those youtube vids.
Only sniper that ever gave me unanswered trouble was xxxBonesxxx83 over at Dead Meat.  I heard tacoskid was pretty good over there too but I only played with him a few times.
I think I'm an alright sniper at this point, admittedly I probably haven't seen some real true snipers since I started playing about a year ago, but I sure would like to
JoshP
Banned
+176|5901|Notts, UK

ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE wrote:

JoshP wrote:

sniperhawk51 wrote:

http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/49050529/
nourdoingitrong
bf2s just counts the 65k kills he wants to show he haz over 100k amg
bf2s doesn't show over 2^16 kills because if you have over 2^16 kills you need to gb2rl

it's there for a reason

wat
Defensor Ursa
Member
+1|6991

Nyte wrote:

The age-old question.

So who is it?

I'll admit it's not me anymore, I've retired for quite awhile now.
LMAO

Yes, with a 2.33(sniper rifle kdr), you are such the DEADLY sniper!!

IF anyone needs to know who the best snipers are, check their kdr with a sniper rifle. If they have over 5 to 1 kdr with a sniper rifle, they're doing something right.
~FuzZz~
.yag era uoy fi siht deaR
+422|6534|Orrstrayleea

Defensor Ursa wrote:

Nyte wrote:

The age-old question.

So who is it?

I'll admit it's not me anymore, I've retired for quite awhile now.
LMAO

Yes, with a 2.33(sniper rifle kdr), you are such the DEADLY sniper!!

IF anyone needs to know who the best snipers are, check their kdr with a sniper rifle. If they have over 5 to 1 kdr with a sniper rifle, they're doing something right.
Because its all about the KDR

They could camp it up for endless rounds, hang-back-hero etc. and get siq stats. They dont mean anything anymore.
Drunk_Musketeer
To be honest I don't care anyway..
+57|6950|Great Wall

Pea....Tear.....Griffen wrote:

Defensor Ursa wrote:

Nyte wrote:

The age-old question.

So who is it?

I'll admit it's not me anymore, I've retired for quite awhile now.
LMAO

Yes, with a 2.33(sniper rifle kdr), you are such the DEADLY sniper!!

IF anyone needs to know who the best snipers are, check their kdr with a sniper rifle. If they have over 5 to 1 kdr with a sniper rifle, they're doing something right.
Because its all about the KDR

They could camp it up for endless rounds, hang-back-hero etc. and get siq stats. They dont mean anything anymore.
He's got a point. A sniper killing at lower rate that 3 to 1 is useless sniper. That's the only way they help to their team.

IMHO in 99% cases

Decent sniper = SPM 2+, KDR with rifle 3+, KDR 3+

Shitty sniper = not having all the above

It matters how fast they kill, killing 3 people in a round and not dying is a joke. Doesn't matter what your rifle kdr is if your pistol/grenade/knife ratios suck below 1 kdr.. that means your sniper kit sucks..

I remember some snipers showing off their 10+ kdrs with rifle while their all knife, pistol grenade ones were below 0.5.. and overall kdr 1 or less

Last edited by Drunk_Musketeer (2009-01-14 00:53:25)

Silent-BuIIeT
extremly hairy wookie
+17|5904|Behind your chair... :)
Drunk Musketeer....

Lets say you played Wake most of the time, this means your SPM will be lower than 2 and that your accuracy will be strugling to even get over 35%.... and that your Sniper Rifle kills per hour will be minus 60. This only tells that you have played on a Long Range Sniping map most of the time, which means, slow pace of killing, slow pace of points and many bullets flying trying to hit somebody from 200++++ meters (hence the accuracy)....

Stats tells a little about a guys skill, very little... KD does not matter at ALL either, anybody can pad that one. The only way to find out how decent a Sniper is by playing with / against him... But what stats shows accurately is HOW you have played, which means you can figure out what STYLE the Sniper likes to play by looking at his Sniper Rifle KD / Hours and his SPM and by looking at what maps he plays the most.

Lets take your stats for example to see what your Style is....  you have a Sniper Rifle KD of 7.48 with 34,916 kills with a SPM of 2.33.... now, take your sniper rifle kills and divide it with the hours you used the sniper rifle (575 hours), this will tell you that you kill 60 with a Sniper Rifle in an hour.... now it depends on what maps you have played, according to your stats you have spent almost all time on Warlord & Ghost Town. These maps are close combat maps, which means that your 60 sniper rifle kills per hour is a slow pace of killing for such maps (High Pace is around 80 for such close combat maps).... all this tells 3 things about you:

1. You like to hang back.... WHY? Only YOU know this.... It could be that you either just dont have the skills to be a close combat sniper but still like to play those close combat maps.. OR... You are good but your style is simply like that, to stay back, keep distance and kill easy targets... or it could be that you are doing it just to die as little as possible... or it could be that you was AFK a bit to much?

2. All this explains your high Sniper Rifle KD of 7.48 aswell. I managed for example a KD of 129 on a account where i played your style on close combat maps like karkand, warlord, ghost town.... with other words, its not impressive at all sorry to say...

3. Your SPM of 2.33 is actually slow paced for close combat maps like this... this SPM on such Close Combat maps proves further more that your style is very cautious / carefull / defensive.


See what i mean, it tells only Style...


I have extremly similar stats to you except a Sniper Rifle KD of 4.38 and higher SPM... but given the fact that i have been playing mostly Karkand (close combat), Iron Gator (both range & close combat) and Dragon Valley (heavy long range sniping map) as a Sniper, which means that i have spent most time of doing both Long Range Maps & Close Combat Maps equally... in this case, my SPM, my sniper rifle KD, my Accuracy, my Sniper Rifle kills per hour which are similar to yours are not that bad... and tells that my style is a combination of Long Range & Close Combat, which is 100% true!

Now... if yours stats should have at least 70 sniper rifle kills per hour and more importantly a SPM of 3+.... the KD doesnt matter at all if its at least 2.00. This means that your STYLE is/was 100% close combat (you cap flags / teamwork and snipe like if you was Rambo, not afraid to die while at it).

Last edited by Silent-BuIIeT (2009-01-14 03:24:21)

JakAttaK
csanva<3
+492|6538|England

Silent-BuIIeT wrote:

Now... if yours stats should have at least 70 sniper rifle kills per hour and more importantly a SPM of 3+.... the KD doesnt matter at all if its at least 2.00. This means that your STYLE is/was 100% close combat (you cap flags / teamwork and snipe like if you was Rambo, not afraid to die while at it).
This.

I'm not being arrogant, but I am no way a shit sniper. I have a SPM of just over 3 and my KD is just under 2.5. I don't only play sniper, so I didn't bother working out my rifle kills per hour. Just because I don't have a KD of above 7 or whatever, doesn't mean I'm not doing my job. I'm normally the first person on the flag radius, and the first person running to the next flag. If I die, so be it, I'm helping my team, not sitting back letting them do all the hard work.

As Silent said, it's all down to play style.

Last edited by JakAttaK (2009-01-14 03:33:31)

Barrakuda777
Member
+86|6948|Somewhere near a shrub or rock
Eeeps.

If i recall correctly Drunk was actually a really good sniper.....

Anyways, subjective, too many styles to consider, people take vids as evidence others take stats (i take playing with them which itself is hard as for example scarsis is USA so its hardly likely yould play everyone).

Nobody will ever be able to answer this.

/thread.

Kooda
Drunk_Musketeer
To be honest I don't care anyway..
+57|6950|Great Wall
I said 99% cases.. there are exceptions.. like dont_be_ss Wake wanker for example

Oh.. my stats.. my god..

I just play the game.. I'm not a rambo sniper.. I'm not a one place camper.. I just look for something to shoot at. I have my ways/pathes/methods/tactics nothing amazing but it works well enough to get banned from every possible server at the end lol

All stats I care about are one round stats.. then I don't care. As sniper I'm unhappy when I'm not on top in combat score.. That's my target every round. That tells me whether I'm doing well or not. Other stats don't bother me.

Last edited by Drunk_Musketeer (2009-01-14 05:01:34)

ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE
oh hai :D
+156|6863|The Netherlands

Barrakuda777 wrote:

Eeeps.

If i recall correctly Drunk was actually a really good sniper.....

Anyways, subjective, too many styles to consider, people take vids as evidence others take stats (i take playing with them which itself is hard as for example scarsis is USA so its hardly likely yould play everyone).

Nobody will ever be able to answer this.

/thread.

Kooda
agreed ....
and I also agree with that playing with ppl when they not rusty gives imo the best reflection of how good a player is... but same problem with american players..
<3 kooda

drunkluv wrote:

like dont_be_ss Wake wanker for example
lmao <3 dibs

Last edited by ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE (2009-01-14 08:08:50)

JoshP
Banned
+176|5901|Notts, UK

Silent-BuIIeT wrote:

Lets say you played Wake most of the time, this means you're retarded and the rest of my post is therefore not worth reading
fix'd
twoblacklines
all grown up now (its boring)
+49|6419
I cant see how stats can say wether ur shit or not. Some rounds i get 40 kills 0 deaths, some rounds i get killed 40 times and kill about 10 people. Does this make me crap ?

For example, atm i have no unlocks, i cant shoot for shit with a type 88 because i aim for long distance kills. I actually play more as a counter sniper than as a team as i believe if DBSS is at the back of a map with a sniper rifle on the opposite side it will advantage my team more to harrass him than to kill other members of his team.

I had 3000+ claymore kills on my old account, claymores a kit part of a sniper kit, does this make me a good sniper ??? it can do and it cant.
sniperhawk51
Banned
+4|5887

twoblacklines wrote:

I cant see how stats can say wether ur shit or not. Some rounds i get 40 kills 0 deaths, some rounds i get killed 40 times and kill about 10 people. Does this make me crap ?

For example, atm i have no unlocks, i cant shoot for shit with a type 88 because i aim for long distance kills. I actually play more as a counter sniper than as a team as i believe if DBSS is at the back of a map with a sniper rifle on the opposite side it will advantage my team more to harrass him than to kill other members of his team.

I had 3000+ claymore kills on my old account, claymores a kit part of a sniper kit, does this make me a good sniper ??? it can do and it cant.
your ruin  for wookie clan.... sad..
ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE
oh hai :D
+156|6863|The Netherlands

twoblacklines wrote:

I cant see how stats can say wether ur shit or not. Some rounds i get 40 kills 0 deaths, some rounds i get killed 40 times and kill about 10 people. Does this make me crap ?
yup, it does actually
JakAttaK
csanva<3
+492|6538|England

ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE wrote:

twoblacklines wrote:

I cant see how stats can say wether ur shit or not. Some rounds i get 40 kills 0 deaths, some rounds i get killed 40 times and kill about 10 people. Does this make me crap ?
yup, it does actually
JoshP
Banned
+176|5901|Notts, UK

JakAttaK wrote:

ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE wrote:

twoblacklines wrote:

I cant see how stats can say wether ur shit or not. Some rounds i get 40 kills 0 deaths, some rounds i get killed 40 times and kill about 10 people. Does this make me crap ?
yup, it does actually
simmy.uk
Member
+117|6650
i saw a guy called sweedish sniper he was pretty good. his long range skills were awesome.
i can claymore pretty good
sniperhawk51
Banned
+4|5887
usa sniper  can play long range, too.
Silent-BuIIeT
extremly hairy wookie
+17|5904|Behind your chair... :)

Barrakuda777 wrote:

Eeeps.

If i recall correctly Drunk was actually a really good sniper.....

Anyways, subjective, too many styles to consider, people take vids as evidence others take stats (i take playing with them which itself is hard as for example scarsis is USA so its hardly likely yould play everyone).

Nobody will ever be able to answer this.

/thread.

Kooda
Its alive!!!!

Hey Kooda m8, long time no see... come back damnit, miss u *turns on Titanic theme and runs towards Kooda in slow-mo*

Last edited by Silent-BuIIeT (2009-01-14 14:36:34)

OneShot1Ki||
Member
+1|5818
Iceman_MF is ranked number 1 with the sniper rifle in bfhq. So I guess he is the guy to beat.
I am ranked number 1,369 with sniper rifle, so i guess I got a little ways to go still.

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