Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7020
to illegal immigrant.... WTF?   
  How did we get to this point... Out of state students pay full price...
but...out of country illegal(not legal to live here) aliens are eleigible for instate tuition...
California is hilarious...  How long till we just give So Cal to the illegals and put a fence up along the Cali border?
Not to mention the other states that are waiting to see how California turns out...
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me … 8207.story

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-01-06 13:48:01)

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imortal
Member
+240|6969|Austin, TX

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

to illegal immigrant.... WTF?   
  How did we get to this point... Out of state students pay full price...
but...out of country illegal(not legal to live here) aliens are eleigible for instate tuition...
California is hilarious...  How long till we just give So Cal to the illegals and put a fence up along the Cali border?
Not to mention the other states that are waiting to see how California turns out...
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me … 8207.story
Texas already grants in-state tuition for illegal aliens, but our state goverement is currently passing a law to overturn it.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7040|Salt Lake City

Utah does the same thing.  In state tuition, even if the person is in the country illegally. And this is one of the most hard core Republican states in the US.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6925|London, England
Wow, having tuition fees more expensive if you're not a US Citizen makes sense. But even if you don't live in the same state, you might have to pay more? Crazy stuff...

That pretty much limits your Uni options to whatever is in your own state unless you're super rich. Kinda gay
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|6005|College Park, MD
The law itself (AB 540) has good intentions. I think they just need to make it a bit more restrictive. If they are required by law to seek out permanent legal residency as soon as possible, and they end up becoming educated while they're at it, it sounds okay to me. It provides an incentive for people to be educated, hard-working residents. It should have a minimum GPA requirement of something like 3.5 to be eligible.

That said, it IS a bit ridiculous that a legal resident or a citizen of this country has to pay more than someone who's here illegally. That's why I hope that at least Virginia Tech accepts me, since they give you in-state tuition if the engineering major you choose is not available in your home state. AFAIK, mining engineering isn't taught in Maryland...

@Mek why does it make more sense if you're not a citizen of the US? What about people with student visas, or permanent residents (AKA myself)? I have no idea why state schools have lower tuition for in-state students, but hey. Out-of-state tuition for state schools is still generally better than private universities.

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2009-01-06 13:55:36)

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Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7020
instate tuition is cheaper becaus they assume that you live there and pay state taxes in that state... and i partially agree with helping the aliens that are trying to better themselves...
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The#1Spot
Member
+105|6844|byah
All though this is silly. How many illegal Mexicans do you think complete H.S. in the US? Of the amount that do how many would rather go to college full time rather than work to help support their family. So the amount is really low but its still unacceptable.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina
We have a guy in North Carolina named Erskine Bowles that runs our collegiate education system, and he proposed giving in-state tuition to illegals as well.  He's a fucking idiot and a Democrat that I'd never EVER vote for.
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6647|California

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

to illegal immigrant.... WTF?   
  How did we get to this point... Out of state students pay full price...
but...out of country illegal(not legal to live here) aliens are eleigible for instate tuition...
California is hilarious...  How long till we just give So Cal to the illegals and put a fence up along the Cali border?
Not to mention the other states that are waiting to see how California turns out...
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me … 8207.story
Someones white and christian and republican

EDIT: Fucking face it. Without these people the economy would be worse and you would be scraping dog-shit off blades of grass for your doctor to earn a $25,000 salary.

Turquoise wrote:

We have a guy in North Carolina named Erskine Bowles that runs our collegiate education system, and he proposed giving in-state tuition to illegals as well.  He's a fucking idiot and a Democrat that I'd never EVER vote for.
Stop crying about Democrats

imortal wrote:

Texas already grants in-state tuition for illegal aliens, but our state goverement is currently passing a law to overturn it.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Utah does the same thing.  In state tuition, even if the person is in the country illegally. And this is one of the most hard core Republican states in the US.

Last edited by xBlackPantherx (2009-01-06 22:21:19)

Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7020

xBlackPantherx wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

to illegal immigrant.... WTF?   
  How did we get to this point... Out of state students pay full price...
but...out of country illegal(not legal to live here) aliens are eligible for instate tuition...
California is hilarious...  How long till we just give So Cal to the illegals and put a fence up along the Cali border?
Not to mention the other states that are waiting to see how California turns out...
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me … 8207.story
Someones white and christian and republican

EDIT: Fucking face it. Without these people the economy would be worse and you would be scraping dog-shit off blades of grass for your doctor to earn a $25,000 salary.

Turquoise wrote:

We have a guy in North Carolina named Erskine Bowles that runs our collegiate education system, and he proposed giving in-state tuition to illegals as well.  He's a fucking idiot and a Democrat that I'd never EVER vote for.
Stop crying about Democrats

imortal wrote:

Texas already grants in-state tuition for illegal aliens, but our state goverement is currently passing a law to overturn it.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Utah does the same thing.  In state tuition, even if the person is in the country illegally. And this is one of the most hard core Republican states in the US.
I don't live in Mexifornia... i just thought it was pretty sad...  I mow my own lawn and i make a great living...
why so angry...lol... oh wait... you live there... my bad...

I read that for every 3 dollars illegals use in services... they pay a 1 dollar in taxes... have fun out there...

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-01-06 22:36:23)

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Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6852|San Diego, CA, USA
I say let the illegals get in-state tuition and then give the Border Patrol their class schedule.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6852|San Diego, CA, USA
FYI, there's 1 illegal alien for every 15 Californians...highest in the nation.  I don't bother to repost the stats as it was in another thread.

The average illegal uses a net $2,700/year in services (that's accounting for the taxes they pay).

Did I tell you the time I was in the emergency room for 4 hours waiting for a doctor, bleeding...no I guess you could care less.
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6647|California

Harmor wrote:

FYI, there's 1 illegal alien for every 15 Californians...highest in the nation.  I don't bother to repost the stats as it was in another thread.

The average illegal uses a net $2,700/year in services (that's accounting for the taxes they pay).

Did I tell you the time I was in the emergency room for 4 hours waiting for a doctor, bleeding...no I guess you could care less.
This
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina

xBlackPantherx wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

We have a guy in North Carolina named Erskine Bowles that runs our collegiate education system, and he proposed giving in-state tuition to illegals as well.  He's a fucking idiot and a Democrat that I'd never EVER vote for.
Stop crying about Democrats

imortal wrote:

Texas already grants in-state tuition for illegal aliens, but our state goverement is currently passing a law to overturn it.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Utah does the same thing.  In state tuition, even if the person is in the country illegally. And this is one of the most hard core Republican states in the US.
The only reason I mentioned Bowles is a Democrat is because I usually favor Democrats.  In Bowles's case, I definitely don't.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6833|Global Command
colleges should not be available to illegal immigrants.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6953

I don't understand how these laws come about. Surely no self respecting politician would vote to allow free education to non Americans? Of course, I'm assuming I'm being told the full story by the OP, which may not be the case (no offense OP).
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina

ghettoperson wrote:

I don't understand how these laws come about. Surely no self respecting politician would vote to allow free education to non Americans? Of course, I'm assuming I'm being told the full story by the OP, which may not be the case (no offense OP).
Honestly, it's a mystery to me as well.  Although apparently, some legal Hispanics support this shit.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6852|San Diego, CA, USA

Turquoise wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I don't understand how these laws come about. Surely no self respecting politician would vote to allow free education to non Americans? Of course, I'm assuming I'm being told the full story by the OP, which may not be the case (no offense OP).
Honestly, it's a mystery to me as well.  Although apparently, some legal Hispanics support this shit.
I'm Hispanic and you would think I would be all for this, but I'm not because I believe in the rule of law. 

Do I wish everyone in the world could come to the United States and enjoy the freedoms and opportunities I do, yes.  Do I want to pay for them to have that freedom and privilege, no.

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. - Engrved on Statue of Liberty
Protecus
Prophet of Certain Certainties
+28|6826

Turquoise wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I don't understand how these laws come about. Surely no self respecting politician would vote to allow free education to non Americans? Of course, I'm assuming I'm being told the full story by the OP, which may not be the case (no offense OP).
Honestly, it's a mystery to me as well.  Although apparently, some legal Hispanics support this shit.
I would suspect the legal Hispanic population would be pissed about this. They are the ones that waited and got in legitimately and now these illegals are essentially taking their places in the University system.

I go to Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, Ca. We're looking at at least a 20% cut in the education budget. We're already looking at impacted classes with fewer professors. It may seem callous, but kick the damn illegals out of the education system, its hard enough getting classes.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina

Protecus wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

I don't understand how these laws come about. Surely no self respecting politician would vote to allow free education to non Americans? Of course, I'm assuming I'm being told the full story by the OP, which may not be the case (no offense OP).
Honestly, it's a mystery to me as well.  Although apparently, some legal Hispanics support this shit.
I would suspect the legal Hispanic population would be pissed about this. They are the ones that waited and got in legitimately and now these illegals are essentially taking their places in the University system.

I go to Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, Ca. We're looking at at least a 20% cut in the education budget. We're already looking at impacted classes with fewer professors. It may seem callous, but kick the damn illegals out of the education system, its hard enough getting classes.
You would think...  but...  Some legal Hispanics are more interested in getting all their relatives into the country whatever it takes.

But yes, legal Hispanics with some foresight (like Harmor) actually think things through and realize it's not in their best interests to slowly collapse all of the things they enjoy in this country with more illegals than we've already got.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5889

Hispanic here. Screw the illegals they shouldn't be in the country. If you do manage to make it here good for you but don't ask for a bunch of benefits even though your not a citizen.

We should protect and help our own rather then illegals who will just use their college experience to get jobs and send money back to Mexico.

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