BF2S Forums Robber shot dead by witness

Dilbert_X wrote:

That would be summary execution = murder, not self-defense or defense of another.

no, if i shot someone that came after me to make sure he is dead, thats not "summary execution".

its me making sure i dont have to pay life support for a scumbag.




good effort though.

ghettoperson wrote:

Parker wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

That would be summary execution = murder, not self-defense or defense of another.

no, if i shot someone that came after me to make sure he is dead, thats not "summary execution".

its me making sure i dont have to pay life support for a scumbag.




good effort though.

It's a nice though, but I very much doubt a court would see it the same way.

Then you sir have never been to Texas.

jord wrote:

lowing wrote:

jord wrote:

Repeatedly grouped me with Cam.

Also, go nuts:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=118395

Grouping you with Cam was not my intention. A comparison to the knee jerk reactions to my posts with others posts was my intention. Any comments or observarions to the rest of that paragraph?

reading link now get back with ya.

Sure:

You are called a lot of things because what you post is controversial. It's to be expected, certainly after a year here at least. I've seen real racism, on the streets and at school. And it's not nice. Some people haven't, and so the closest they come to a racist is your controversial opinions.

I just so the video so and it was nothing worth bothering about, stick to the article. Video is a mobile phone vid of a the guy lying down with nothing much happened. It's late now, post in that thread and I may reply tomorow.

I have never said a racist thing in any post I have made, in fact I speak of equality for all.  You have never read the "n" word to discribe anyone in any of my posts Also, a truthful observation is not racist. Being offensive is different than being a racist. If you want ot call my posts offensive, I have no argument, because my posts can be, to those that are included in my views.

Now no doubt, you are thinking all the terrible things I have said about Muslims real or imagined. The truth is, I trash Islam, not Muslims. This does not make me a racist, since Islam is not a race, and my opinions are validated everyday in the news.

Parker wrote:

no, if i shot someone that came after me to make sure he is dead, thats not "summary execution".

If you've already shot him twice, he's lying on the floor, no longer a threat and you deliberately shoot him in the head that would certainly be summary execution most places in the world, although maybe not in Texas.

Jenspm wrote:

I see your point, I just have a hard time justifying murder.

Killing a criminal while they're doing violent criminal things isn't murder.  It's a service.

Dilbert_X wrote:

If you've already shot him twice, he's lying on the floor, no longer a threat and you deliberately shoot him in the head that would certainly be summary execution most places in the world, although maybe not in Texas.

And how do you accurately and quickly estimate a wounded person's treat level?  Ask them how they feel, stick your finger in the wound, see what you hit?  Get close enough to restrain them?  Give them a hug and tell them it's gunna be OK?

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Reciprocity wrote:

And how do you accurately and quickly estimate a wounded person's treat level?  Ask them how they feel, stick your finger in the wound, see what you hit?  Get close enough to restrain them?  Give them a hug and tell them it's gunna be OK?

If they are lying on the floor and not able to swing a beer bottle at you I guess that would be enough for most people.

If you can retreat beyond 21 feet without them following you reckon that would suffice also.

Doesn't mean you're free to empty your mag into the guys head when he's already down.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Doesn't mean you're free to empty your mag into the guys head when he's already down.

Again, the situation is what matters.  If you can convince the jury you still had adrenaline running through you to the point that you weren't exactly thinking clearly, then you can probably escape conviction in most cases of something like this here.

To be honest, most jurors around here would likely rather give you a medal than a conviction for offing a robber.  I know I probably would.

reciprocity wrote:

look at it as putting him out his misery.

Its not for the average person to be taking that decision.
And what if you made a mistake? The guy with the beer bottle was just buying a beer but got jumped by some crack whore?
Might be wise not to play Charles Bronson and shoot someone in the head when they're lying on the floor.

ghettoperson wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Then you sir have never been to Texas.

...or Florida...   or most of the South.

We're a little more lenient about self defense than the typical European country is, for better or worse.

Perhaps, I was more thinking of the border guards that are in jail for shooting a drug smuggler, doing their job.

Yes, that is a shame.  If Bush has any balls, he'll pardon them.

Mexico should expect us to kill any drug smugglers that come our way.

If our government had any balls, they'd send back the heads of these smugglers to Calderon himself.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Its not for the average person to be taking that decision.

you are right.
thats why i have a CCW permit. that way, if someone comes at me, i have the right to turn his head into a canoe.

Dilbert_X wrote:

And what if you made a mistake? The guy with the beer bottle was just buying a beer but got jumped by some crack whore?

i wouldnt shoot unless i was threatened.
after that, its fair game...just bad luck for the cocksucker that i had a pistol.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Might be wise not to play Charles Bronson and shoot someone in the head when they're lying on the floor.

nah, his gun was way too big

if i feel that someone is a threat, i will shoot them until i feel they arent...if that means they are missing a large portion of their head....well, like i said, unlucky for them that i am carrying a pistol.

You don't shoot to kill when they are lying in a blood of their own blood shot twice in the chest, do you?

TheAussieReaper wrote:

You don't shoot to kill when they are lying in a blood of their own blood shot twice in the chest, do you?

Again.....

I wrote:

Maybe he was reaching for his gun at his death throws after repeated "don't go for your fucking gun" lines..  So If your argument stands, then victim should be at minimum awarded a malicious/excessive wounding ticket?  What would you charge?