I don't play Soldier often, but every time I see these guys' videos, it makes me want to play it more often..
Insaaane shit.
Fragga:
Reptile:
Insaaane shit.
Fragga:
Reptile:
fuck me thats madness
After seeing those I belive aimbots are trying to imitate them. madness.
Prediction, beeing seein that kind of thing in Quake 3 for ages...amaze me to see that some people can master that even in tf2!
Ooooold man!
Fragga is a cool guy, he's great at airshots and rocket jumps... that's his tricks. He's an above-average match player but he's definitely not the best.
Reptile had his day back in ETF2L Season1/Season2, he's rarely around or rarely a dominating force anymore... I've felt his rockets up my arse many a time though.
Best TF2 soldier nowadays on the professional/competitive circuit is Appe, hands down. He's playing for ubersexuals nowadays but he's bounced around pretty much every professional European Div1-team there is, truly insane Swede. He has a frag-video on Youtube, I'll find it for you...
Watch it in HD - and remember as the video description says - it's a video of professional div1 level soldiers, not a gimmicky airshot video.
Fragga is a cool guy, he's great at airshots and rocket jumps... that's his tricks. He's an above-average match player but he's definitely not the best.
Reptile had his day back in ETF2L Season1/Season2, he's rarely around or rarely a dominating force anymore... I've felt his rockets up my arse many a time though.
Best TF2 soldier nowadays on the professional/competitive circuit is Appe, hands down. He's playing for ubersexuals nowadays but he's bounced around pretty much every professional European Div1-team there is, truly insane Swede. He has a frag-video on Youtube, I'll find it for you...
Watch it in HD - and remember as the video description says - it's a video of professional div1 level soldiers, not a gimmicky airshot video.
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God that is sick I don't even try rocketing people in the air.
Air shots are impressive but relatively easy, the hardest thing about them is simply prediction and reading the other player... a noob or inexperienced player (especially in the air) will just be easy; if you fire them up into the air and they cannot air-strafe or control themselves, then they just go exactly where you want them to and it's an easy-hit. Playing against decent-level experienced players that can air-strafe and purposefully be evasive when airborne is an entire different ballgame...
Best practice for air-shots is obviously BBall
Best practice for air-shots is obviously BBall
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wow.
BBall?Uzique wrote:
Air shots are impressive but relatively easy, the hardest thing about them is simply prediction and reading the other player... a noob or inexperienced player (especially in the air) will just be easy; if you fire them up into the air and they cannot air-strafe or control themselves, then they just go exactly where you want them to and it's an easy-hit. Playing against decent-level experienced players that can air-strafe and purposefully be evasive when airborne is an entire different ballgame...
Best practice for air-shots is obviously BBall
I suck at Soldier, mainly because I absolutely fail at rocket jumping, but I love going on the bridge in 2Fort and blasting people into the roof and they can't move anywhere.
Were these videos pre-nerf?
Were these videos pre-nerf?
Reptile isFinray wrote:
Were these videos pre-nerf?
Appe isn't
Fragga idk
Fragga & Appe are active and making videos now.Miggle wrote:
Reptile isFinray wrote:
Were these videos pre-nerf?
Appe isn't
Fragga idk
Reptile as I said played with us around Season1/Season2 in the earlier days for teams like Fracture that are now long-gone- RIP .
Bball is a custom map mainly designed for Soldiers/Demomen, it's a basketball court with a CTF-style intelligence as the 'ball' that the teams (normally 2v2 or 3v3) must face off against each other to score. The basket is of course placed off the floor and thus needs a jump-style dunk, so all of the air-play and jumping antics makes it a great map for practicing rocket jumps and honing in those crucial airshot defenses .wah1188 wrote:
BBall?
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Yeah, I pugged with Reptile once.Uzique wrote:
Fragga & Appe are active and making videos now.Miggle wrote:
Reptile isFinray wrote:
Were these videos pre-nerf?
Appe isn't
Fragga idk
Reptile as I said played with us around Season1/Season2 in the earlier days for teams like Fracture that are now long-gone- RIP .Bball is a custom map mainly designed for Soldiers/Demomen, it's a basketball court with a CTF-style intelligence as the 'ball' that the teams (normally 2v2 or 3v3) must face off against each other to score. The basket is of course placed off the floor and thus needs a jump-style dunk, so all of the air-play and jumping antics makes it a great map for practicing rocket jumps and honing in those crucial airshot defenses .wah1188 wrote:
BBall?
Aren't there maps made specifically for airshot practice though? there are a bunch of bots that get shot up into the air for you to shoot. I saw it in a video once.
Rofl, the tr_ airshot maps are pathetic. Do not help at all. Avoid.
As I said in my first post, airshotting noobs that just go exactly where the force of your rocket pushes them (i.e. like a static bot on an air-shot practice map) are easy to shoot, there's nothing difficult in just tracing and predicting where a senseless naabje will fly. The real challenge lies in predicting players that know what they're doing, people who can air-strafe and effectively evade your easy-shots in mid-air. Bots and airshot maps will not help this, I've spent probably about 20 hours in the early days in offline mode playing against these dumby bots to refine my basic technique, and I have to say that 5 hours of bball over LAN/Internet puts you in a far better position.
You pugged with Reptile? From all the way over in the US? Reptile pugs?
. Only really seen him play or met him in PCW's or league arrangements, normally those guys (i.e. the Euro leet boys that form the core of Pandemic, Anim, Fracture, TLR.Tagan, Enixe etc. permutations of names go on and on and on) only play in arranged IRC PCW's, they look down on mix-pugs.
As I said in my first post, airshotting noobs that just go exactly where the force of your rocket pushes them (i.e. like a static bot on an air-shot practice map) are easy to shoot, there's nothing difficult in just tracing and predicting where a senseless naabje will fly. The real challenge lies in predicting players that know what they're doing, people who can air-strafe and effectively evade your easy-shots in mid-air. Bots and airshot maps will not help this, I've spent probably about 20 hours in the early days in offline mode playing against these dumby bots to refine my basic technique, and I have to say that 5 hours of bball over LAN/Internet puts you in a far better position.
You pugged with Reptile? From all the way over in the US? Reptile pugs?
. Only really seen him play or met him in PCW's or league arrangements, normally those guys (i.e. the Euro leet boys that form the core of Pandemic, Anim, Fracture, TLR.Tagan, Enixe etc. permutations of names go on and on and on) only play in arranged IRC PCW's, they look down on mix-pugs.
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Reptile pugs on occasion, and isn't he american?Uzique wrote:
Rofl, the tr_ airshot maps are pathetic. Do not help at all. Avoid.
As I said in my first post, airshotting noobs that just go exactly where the force of your rocket pushes them (i.e. like a static bot on an air-shot practice map) are easy to shoot, there's nothing difficult in just tracing and predicting where a senseless naabje will fly. The real challenge lies in predicting players that know what they're doing, people who can air-strafe and effectively evade your easy-shots in mid-air. Bots and airshot maps will not help this, I've spent probably about 20 hours in the early days in offline mode playing against these dumby bots to refine my basic technique, and I have to say that 5 hours of bball over LAN/Internet puts you in a far better position.
You pugged with Reptile? From all the way over in the US? Reptile pugs?
. Only really seen him play or met him in PCW's or league arrangements, normally those guys (i.e. the Euro leet boys that form the core of Pandemic, Anim, Fracture, TLR.Tagan, Enixe etc. permutations of names go on and on and on) only play in arranged IRC PCW's, they look down on mix-pugs.
He wrecked, best soldier I have ever played with, probably best I've ever seen.
I don't know Reptile personally, or as well as I know fragga/appe, but I'm pretty sure all the Pandemic guys when they had their squad on Div1/Div2 in the early days of leagues such as ETF2L had pings of < 100. Pretty much a must-have if you're going to be competing against the top-class of European players, especially if you want to be doing air-shots and other ping-reliant shots. Although saying that several North American league teams/players have made crossovers into European scene and done just fine with pings of ~150...
I'm not sure whether the Pandemic tf2 squad was an actual North American native squad, or whether they were a ghost-ringing team of Europeans playing under a big sponsored team name... this isn't uncommon in high-level Euro-TF2 that's for sure: 4Kings, TLR.Tagan and WotR are all 'adopted' teams that foster under a bigger gaming organisation for the free perks and publicity/support it gives them.
I'm not sure whether the Pandemic tf2 squad was an actual North American native squad, or whether they were a ghost-ringing team of Europeans playing under a big sponsored team name... this isn't uncommon in high-level Euro-TF2 that's for sure: 4Kings, TLR.Tagan and WotR are all 'adopted' teams that foster under a bigger gaming organisation for the free perks and publicity/support it gives them.
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I see pandemic all the time in US pugs, played with Rep 2 or 3 times. Maybe they live in the middle of the pacific ocean?Uzique wrote:
I don't know Reptile personally, or as well as I know fragga/appe, but I'm pretty sure all the Pandemic guys when they had their squad on Div1/Div2 in the early days of leagues such as ETF2L had pings of < 100. Pretty much a must-have if you're going to be competing against the top-class of European players, especially if you want to be doing air-shots and other ping-reliant shots. Although saying that several North American league teams/players have made crossovers into European scene and done just fine with pings of ~150...
I'm not sure whether the Pandemic tf2 squad was an actual North American native squad, or whether they were a ghost-ringing team of Europeans playing under a big sponsored team name... this isn't uncommon in high-level Euro-TF2 that's for sure: 4Kings, TLR.Tagan and WotR are all 'adopted' teams that foster under a bigger gaming organisation for the free perks and publicity/support it gives them.
Haha, you mean Atlantic?Miggle wrote:
I see pandemic all the time in US pugs, played with Rep 2 or 3 times. Maybe they live in the middle of the pacific ocean?Uzique wrote:
I don't know Reptile personally, or as well as I know fragga/appe, but I'm pretty sure all the Pandemic guys when they had their squad on Div1/Div2 in the early days of leagues such as ETF2L had pings of < 100. Pretty much a must-have if you're going to be competing against the top-class of European players, especially if you want to be doing air-shots and other ping-reliant shots. Although saying that several North American league teams/players have made crossovers into European scene and done just fine with pings of ~150...
I'm not sure whether the Pandemic tf2 squad was an actual North American native squad, or whether they were a ghost-ringing team of Europeans playing under a big sponsored team name... this isn't uncommon in high-level Euro-TF2 that's for sure: 4Kings, TLR.Tagan and WotR are all 'adopted' teams that foster under a bigger gaming organisation for the free perks and publicity/support it gives them.
There hasn't been a pandemic team in the Euro-scene for about 2-3 seasons now, they were very early days. Perhaps they were Americans that packed their bags and kept to competing on their own continent, really not sure. They were a very strong team though back in the early-early days, strong enough to be remembered anyway. I'm pretty sure they have a few European players that have gone on to carry on the scene in a very strong way.. e.g. Haunter who rung for them a few times and is now tearing it up in nerv/ous and Ubersexuals.
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pff whatever ocean it is.Uzique wrote:
Haha, you mean Atlantic?Miggle wrote:
I see pandemic all the time in US pugs, played with Rep 2 or 3 times. Maybe they live in the middle of the pacific ocean?Uzique wrote:
I don't know Reptile personally, or as well as I know fragga/appe, but I'm pretty sure all the Pandemic guys when they had their squad on Div1/Div2 in the early days of leagues such as ETF2L had pings of < 100. Pretty much a must-have if you're going to be competing against the top-class of European players, especially if you want to be doing air-shots and other ping-reliant shots. Although saying that several North American league teams/players have made crossovers into European scene and done just fine with pings of ~150...
I'm not sure whether the Pandemic tf2 squad was an actual North American native squad, or whether they were a ghost-ringing team of Europeans playing under a big sponsored team name... this isn't uncommon in high-level Euro-TF2 that's for sure: 4Kings, TLR.Tagan and WotR are all 'adopted' teams that foster under a bigger gaming organisation for the free perks and publicity/support it gives them.
There hasn't been a pandemic team in the Euro-scene for about 2-3 seasons now, they were very early days. Perhaps they were Americans that packed their bags and kept to competing on their own continent, really not sure. They were a very strong team though back in the early-early days, strong enough to be remembered anyway. I'm pretty sure they have a few European players that have gone on to carry on the scene in a very strong way.. e.g. Haunter who rung for them a few times and is now tearing it up in nerv/ous and Ubersexuals.
And I no longer pug, I saw these guys pugging probably 4 or 5 months ago, but afaik they're still doing pro shit in the US leagues.
Well I know fuck-all about competitive gamers, so yeah..
..Except for the fact that everyone I've "met" who claims to be one, comes off as an egotistical fuckwad.
Edit: By the way, now that we're on the topic of competitive gaming and videos, does anyone know of any good Sniper videos?
..Except for the fact that everyone I've "met" who claims to be one, comes off as an egotistical fuckwad.
Edit: By the way, now that we're on the topic of competitive gaming and videos, does anyone know of any good Sniper videos?
Last edited by DefCon-17 (2009-01-05 13:04:00)
Gonna plug this old video of a TF2 friend of mine showing how to play sniper in pro-level clan matches...DefCon-17 wrote:
Well I know fuck-all about competitive gamers, so yeah..
..Except for the fact that everyone I've "met" who claims to be one, comes off as an egotistical fuckwad.
Edit: By the way, now that we're on the topic of competitive gaming and videos, does anyone know of any good Sniper videos?
This is for WotR:
Win!
Competitive gamers aren't all egotistical fuckwads, but that's an age-old argument that I don't care to get into... the only thing you need to pay attention to is that Fragga and Reptile are soo last year / such gimmicks, and Appe is the real world-class soldier .
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The real Muse though? Easy to impersonate on CoD games, I don't believe any of it til I see their PB ID that matches their stated ID on leagues
Can't really see why a Pandemic player would join a 24/7 Deathmatch server but there you go!
Played with 3 pros eh? Back in Season2/3 I used to match professional world-known teams like 4K, WoTR and Veritas on a weekly basis /flex
Can't really see why a Pandemic player would join a 24/7 Deathmatch server but there you go!
Played with 3 pros eh? Back in Season2/3 I used to match professional world-known teams like 4K, WoTR and Veritas on a weekly basis /flex
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Yeah, I was only there because it was the only place with more than 0 people and less than 100 ping.Uzique wrote:
The real Muse though? Easy to impersonate on CoD games, I don't believe any of it til I see their PB ID that matches their stated ID on leagues
Can't really see why a Pandemic player would join a 24/7 Deathmatch server but there you go!
Played with 3 pros eh? Back in Season2/3 I used to match professional world-known teams like 4K, WoTR and Veritas on a weekly basis /flex
Probably was an impersonator, I had a guy impersonate me once in my own server for CoD2. I'm still going to count him as a pro though.
And I don't really play competitive that much, did a season of TWL and that's about it.
Oh, is CoD2 nearly dead? I thought it was quite active.Miggle wrote:
Yeah, I was only there because it was the only place with more than 0 people and less than 100 ping.Uzique wrote:
The real Muse though? Easy to impersonate on CoD games, I don't believe any of it til I see their PB ID that matches their stated ID on leagues
Can't really see why a Pandemic player would join a 24/7 Deathmatch server but there you go!
Played with 3 pros eh? Back in Season2/3 I used to match professional world-known teams like 4K, WoTR and Veritas on a weekly basis /flex
Probably was an impersonator, I had a guy impersonate me once in my own server for CoD2. I'm still going to count him as a pro though.
And I don't really play competitive that much, did a season of TWL and that's about it.