Creating my own Webpage server/File server

2008-12-09 19:36:31

#1

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

1) Is it possible? I won't need that much upload wise, so I think I'm set with my current internet package right now. Do I need to get permission from my ISP though?
2) Do I have to rent/purchase a domain name? Can't I just use my external IP (presumably static, which I'd have to call the ISP about)?

Hmm, that's all I can think of right now. It's just a little project, nothing too big. I'm going for something like my FileSavr account but with more customization and perhaps webpages/hosting my own forum (PunBB).

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2008-12-09 19:47:33

#2

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6786|...

haffeysucks wrote:
1) Is it possible? I won't need that much upload wise, so I think I'm set with my current internet package right now. Do I need to get permission from my ISP though?

You probably best not tell your ISP, assuming 80 inbound is not blocked. Its typically against most TOS's for consumer ISPs. However, it won't really go noticed unless you draw a ton of traffic. I would not say anything to them.

haffeysucks wrote:
2) Do I have to rent/purchase a domain name? Can't I just use my external IP (presumably static, which I'd have to call the ISP about)?

try using DDNS if you need a name, otherwise you can use your ip address at the time. Most provider don;t change IPs all that frequently.

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-12-09 19:48:23)

2008-12-09 19:47:37

#3

TheDonkey: Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt; +163|5981|Vancouver, BC, Canada

If you just want to get to some files from outside your network, then HTTP File Server is your best bet, it's made to be simple yet powerfuk.
http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/

If you're looking to actually design and host your own websites, then you'd want XAMP, it's Apache(80% of the internet runs this), PHP(Makes dynamic web pages possible), MySQL(Stores content for dynamic pages), and a whole bunch of plugins for all of em.
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html

You won't need a domain, using just your IP is fine,
http://whatismyip.com/

Type in your IP from any web browser and it should take you to the server.

If you have a router, you'll need to port forward.
http://www.portforward.com/english/rout … rindex.htm

Pick your Router model, then choose Apache from the dropdown, where it tells you to type in port 80, you substitute it for the port you HTTP File Server's on, then you'd type in http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:<port> from any browser and you should get there.

2008-12-09 19:50:01

#4

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TheDonkey wrote:
If you just want to get to some files from outside your network, then HTTP File Server is your best bet, it's made to be simple yet powerfuk.
http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/

If you're looking to actually design and host your own websites, then you'd want XAMP, it's Apache(80% of the internet runs this), PHP(Makes dynamic web pages possible), MySQL(Stores content for dynamic pages), and a whole bunch of plugins for all of em.
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html

Ruby on Rails tbh

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-12-09 19:51:23)

2008-12-09 19:52:30

#5

TheDonkey: Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt; +163|5981|Vancouver, BC, Canada

jsnipy wrote:
TheDonkey wrote:
If you just want to get to some files from outside your network, then HTTP File Server is your best bet, it's made to be simple yet powerfuk.
http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/

If you're looking to actually design and host your own websites, then you'd want XAMP, it's Apache(80% of the internet runs this), PHP(Makes dynamic web pages possible), MySQL(Stores content for dynamic pages), and a whole bunch of plugins for all of em.
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html
Ruby on Rails tbh

Just googled it, but don't get what it does/what it actually is...?

And I do run LAMPP on my Linux server, nub -D

Last edited by TheDonkey (2008-12-09 19:53:26)

2008-12-09 19:54:17

#6

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6786|...

TheDonkey wrote:
jsnipy wrote:
TheDonkey wrote:
If you just want to get to some files from outside your network, then HTTP File Server is your best bet, it's made to be simple yet powerfuk.
http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/

If you're looking to actually design and host your own websites, then you'd want XAMP, it's Apache(80% of the internet runs this), PHP(Makes dynamic web pages possible), MySQL(Stores content for dynamic pages), and a whole bunch of plugins for all of em.
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html
Ruby on Rails tbh
Just googled it, but don't get what it does/what it actually is...?

And I do run LAMPP on my Linux server, nub -D

L.A.M.P. not LAMPP

2008-12-09 19:59:48

#7

TheDonkey: Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt; +163|5981|Vancouver, BC, Canada

Grammar nazi.

2008-12-09 20:17:39

#8

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

TheDonkey wrote:
jsnipy wrote:
TheDonkey wrote:
If you just want to get to some files from outside your network, then HTTP File Server is your best bet, it's made to be simple yet powerfuk.
http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/

If you're looking to actually design and host your own websites, then you'd want XAMP, it's Apache(80% of the internet runs this), PHP(Makes dynamic web pages possible), MySQL(Stores content for dynamic pages), and a whole bunch of plugins for all of em.
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html
Ruby on Rails tbh
Just googled it, but don't get what it does/what it actually is...?

And I do run LAMPP on my Linux server, nub -D

Ruby on Rails is the framework that powers Ruby, which is a CGI language like Perl or Python.

2008-12-09 20:20:15

#9

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7030|Cambridge (UK)

CrazeD wrote:
TheDonkey wrote:
jsnipy wrote:

Ruby on Rails tbh
Just googled it, but don't get what it does/what it actually is...?

And I do run LAMPP on my Linux server, nub -D
Ruby on Rails is the framework that powers Ruby, which is a CGI language like Perl or Python.

What's it do that HTML+CSS+JS+PHP doesn't?

2008-12-09 20:33:45

#10

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

It's a CGI language...

It does what Perl and Python do. PHP is only server-side, period. But CGI languages can operate (somewhat) client-side. Not as powerful as Javascript, but can do some things.

You can pretty much do anything PHP does with a CGI language.

2008-12-09 21:10:59

#11

Defiance: Member; +438|6935

It's easy if you're familiar with port forwarding. I'd use Apache, just install and copy the files where they ought to go.

2008-12-09 21:23:43

#12

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6786|...

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:
TheDonkey wrote:
Just googled it, but don't get what it does/what it actually is...?

And I do run LAMPP on my Linux server, nub -D
Ruby on Rails is the framework that powers Ruby, which is a CGI language like Perl or Python.
What's it do that HTML+CSS+JS+PHP doesn't?

I've derailed sorry Haffey, nothing overly magical, main highlight is that you design a typical app using an MVC pattern. Good for if you have a database to front quickly, with little effort.

/trolling

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-12-09 21:25:03)

2008-12-09 21:31:19

#13

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7030|Cambridge (UK)

jsnipy wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
CrazeD wrote:

Ruby on Rails is the framework that powers Ruby, which is a CGI language like Perl or Python.
What's it do that HTML+CSS+JS+PHP doesn't?
I've derailed sorry Haffey, nothing overly magical, main highlight is that you design a typical app using an MVC pattern. Good for if you have a database to front quickly, with little effort.

/trolling

I see. Meh. Gimme HTML+CSS+JS+PHP any day.

(but, then, my background is in C/C++ coding)

2008-12-09 21:34:07

#14

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6786|...

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
jsnipy wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
What's it do that HTML+CSS+JS+PHP doesn't?
I've derailed sorry Haffey, nothing overly magical, main highlight is that you design a typical app using an MVC pattern. Good for if you have a database to front quickly, with little effort.

/trolling
I see. Meh. Gimme HTML+CSS+JS+PHP any day.

(but, then, my background is in C/C++ coding)

productivity==£££. Most customers don't care how 1337 you are, they care if you can deliver.

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-12-09 21:34:49)

2008-12-09 21:35:43

#15

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7030|Cambridge (UK)

jsnipy wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
jsnipy wrote:
I've derailed sorry Haffey, nothing overly magical, main highlight is that you design a typical app using an MVC pattern. Good for if you have a database to front quickly, with little effort.

/trolling
I see. Meh. Gimme HTML+CSS+JS+PHP any day.

(but, then, my background is in C/C++ coding)
productivity==£££. Most customers don't care how 1337 you are, they care if you can deliver.

Depends on your market. And just how 1337 you are.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-12-09 21:36:16)

2008-12-09 21:41:31

#16

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6786|...

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
jsnipy wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I see. Meh. Gimme HTML+CSS+JS+PHP any day.

(but, then, my background is in C/C++ coding)
productivity==£££. Most customers don't care how 1337 you are, they care if you can deliver.
Depends on your market. And just how 1337 you are.

Easy philosophy in theory

2008-12-09 21:44:07

#17

Scorpion0x17: can detect anyone's visible post count...; +691|7030|Cambridge (UK)

jsnipy wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
jsnipy wrote:

productivity==£££. Most customers don't care how 1337 you are, they care if you can deliver.
Depends on your market. And just how 1337 you are.
Easy philosophy in theory

Tell me about it.

2008-12-09 22:00:26

#18

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6417|what

Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I see. Meh. Gimme HTML+CSS+JS+PHP any day.

(but, then, my background is in C/C++ coding)

Add in some VB.net with ASP and you got yourself set up nicely.

2008-12-09 22:18:30

#19

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

TheAussieReaper wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I see. Meh. Gimme HTML+CSS+JS+PHP any day.

(but, then, my background is in C/C++ coding)
Add in some VB.net with ASP and you got yourself set up nicely.

Ew.

IIS ftl.

2008-12-09 23:08:35

#20

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6786|...

TheAussieReaper wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I see. Meh. Gimme HTML+CSS+JS+PHP any day.

(but, then, my background is in C/C++ coding)
Add in some VB.net C# with ASP.Net and you got yourself set up nicely.

CrazeD wrote:
TheAussieReaper wrote:
Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I see. Meh. Gimme HTML+CSS+JS+PHP any day.

(but, then, my background is in C/C++ coding)
Add in some VB.net with ASP and you got yourself set up nicely.
Ew.

IIS ftl.

It's not all bad if set up correctly.
(I will grant you there has been plenty of bad history)

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2008-12-10 00:06:14

#21

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

Except for the fact that Linux>Windows for web servers.

2008-12-10 03:11:05

#22

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

Okay, first of all, thanks everyone for your replies. Most of them have gone completely over my head though, mainly the ones in the middle. Here are a few things I picked out:

Linux>Windows for webservers - good, because this is just a little project, hence, I don't want to pay too much for it
if need be, though, i can always make it happen...

Defiance wrote:
It's easy if you're familiar with port forwarding. I'd use Apache, just install and copy the files where they ought to go.

Yes I have done port forwarding many times before. 80 is the HTTP port, as j said, right? I'll look into Apache.

oh and my external IP doesn't seem to change - it only changed about a year ago when I bought a new router (due to the new MAC address, doh)

i will start working on this when i find some free time - we got a couple old desktops lying around

Last edited by haffeysucks (2008-12-10 03:21:38)

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2008-12-10 05:17:34

#23

CrazeD: Member; +368|6937|Maine

In the long run, Linux>Windows for web servers. However for what you want, either will work really. I have a spare box running XP with a local web server on it, too basic to need to use Linux for.

You may want to setup the stuff yourself (that is, configure Apache, PHP, MySQL and any other stuff (like Perl, etc) that you may want) because typically it is more secure than WAMP's and such. It's a little bit harder to do though, but there's a ton of great tutorials you can find on t3h Go0glez.

2008-12-10 08:16:45

#24

TheDonkey: Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt; +163|5981|Vancouver, BC, Canada

haffeysucks wrote:
Okay, first of all, thanks everyone for your replies. Most of them have gone completely over my head though, mainly the ones in the middle. Here are a few things I picked out:

Linux>Windows for webservers - good, because this is just a little project, hence, I don't want to pay too much for it
if need be, though, i can always make it happen...
Defiance wrote:
It's easy if you're familiar with port forwarding. I'd use Apache, just install and copy the files where they ought to go.
Yes I have done port forwarding many times before. 80 is the HTTP port, as j said, right? I'll look into Apache.

oh and my external IP doesn't seem to change - it only changed about a year ago when I bought a new router (due to the new MAC address, doh)

i will start working on this when i find some free time - we got a couple old desktops lying around

Yeah, in any case, I'd recommend using Xamp over just trying to get Apache to work by itself, it's much easier and futureproof(You'd need PHP and MySQL for PHPbb)

Most IP's ARE Dynamic, it's just that the ISP can't FORCE you to change your IP, so they put you on a waiting list, soon as your router turns off for like an hour, they assign you a new IP. I've gone for 6 months on teh same IP, and when it did change, zoneedit.com picked up teh slack and kept my domain going.

2008-12-10 11:34:36

#25

Brasso: member; +1,549|6894

great, thank you guys so much.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

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