BF2S Forums [Formula 1] Looks like Honda are pulling out

Didn't say why they were selling?

Kptk92 wrote:

SEREVENT wrote:

Didn't say why they were selling?

Sources told BBC Sport the team were "optimistic" they would continue, but no investor had yet been found.

However, according to the Reuters news agency, team bosses Ross Brawn and Nick Fry fear Honda could close the team within weeks.

My mistake.

its not surprising given their form over the past few seasons but its so sad considering how long they have been in the sport.

i dont understand how a team with so much money could under achieve like they have been doing.

Honda were one of the few teams that managed to give other teams benefit instead of their own! Remember winglets? On the Honda car first. Sad to see a great team go, the power of dreams wasn't enough anymore.

Adam Parsons, BBC sports correspondant wrote:

I am told that for £1 you can now buy the Honda F1 team

Bell wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

Damn, that sucks And they were looking pretty good for the '09 season as well.

Yeah, as far as am aware they had spent the longest time working on that 09 car, because the 08 was so horrible they simply gave up on it after like three races........

It is odd though.  They have a budget not far off Ferrari (I think).  I hope they stay on though and get Senna in, thats a huge potential marketing system for them and I'd like to see him take on Hamilton and the Ferraris.  And BMW for that matter.

Really looking forward to this year   Plenty of good teams and drivers.

Indeed, it looks like there could be 4 teams competing for the top spot of the podiums this year

Last edited by Jenspm (2008-12-04 15:06:07)

Buy it for 1£ sell it for 2£. Profit. Free lunch.

Well now...
hehe

This...perhaps...gives Toro Roso and Red Bull some nice (potential) driver choices.

Dragging thier collective feet on a line-up for next year may pay off.  We may soon know.

Toyota probably has a bigger budget than Honda and look how Toyota does in F1 ... A LOT WORSE. Budget isn't everything, it's who you can recruit to drive for you. I am sure the Honda cars are just as good as the Ferrari and McLaren cars in a lot of ways, but their talent behind the wheel just isn't there.

There is an old saying in racing that I picked up when I raced autocross a few years ago: The best investment you can make to improve times on a track is to improve the driver in the car.

Last edited by CapnNismo (2008-12-05 03:42:37)

CapnNismo wrote:

I am sure the Honda cars are just as good as the Ferrari and McLaren cars in a lot of ways

There not.  The honda, pretty much eat's it's tyres and so the drivers have to back off in order to preserve them till the pitt stops.  By the time they get fresh rubber on, they generally end up in amoung traffic so cant really put down a hot lap where as hamilton etc are usually well spread out by then and have a clear(ish) run.

I also think that any talented technicians etc, are head hunted by other teams and despite the prestige that goes along with F1 as a whole, saing you work for Ferrari/McClaren > Honda.

I want to know what's happening with there 09 car though.  I mean they will already of spent most of the money, and the car should be pretty much ready, atleast for testing by now.  Perhaps it was, and what they where pinning there hopes on failed.

Martyn

CapnNismo wrote:

Toyota probably has a bigger budget than Honda and look how Toyota does in F1 ... A LOT WORSE. Budget isn't everything, it's who you can recruit to drive for you. I am sure the Honda cars are just as good as the Ferrari and McLaren cars in a lot of ways, but their talent behind the wheel just isn't there.

There is an old saying in racing that I picked up when I raced autocross a few years ago: The best investment you can make to improve times on a track is to improve the driver in the car.

Toyota doesnt do worse than honda and its is arguable that Honda have had the better driving talent. Button and Barrichello vs Trulli and Glock?

CONSTRUCTOR TEAM     POINTS
1. Ferrari    172
2. McLaren Mercedes    151
3. BMW Sauber    135
4. Renault    80
5. Toyota    56
6. Scuderia Toro Rosso    39
7. Red Bull Racing    29
8. Williams    26
9. Honda Racing    14

last seasons standings

Last edited by pers0nah (2008-12-05 08:35:08)

Kptk92 wrote:

pers0nah wrote:

CapnNismo wrote:

Toyota probably has a bigger budget than Honda and look how Toyota does in F1 ... A LOT WORSE. Budget isn't everything, it's who you can recruit to drive for you. I am sure the Honda cars are just as good as the Ferrari and McLaren cars in a lot of ways, but their talent behind the wheel just isn't there.

There is an old saying in racing that I picked up when I raced autocross a few years ago: The best investment you can make to improve times on a track is to improve the driver in the car.

Toyota doesnt do worse than honda and its is arguable that Honda have had the better driving talent. Button and Barrichello vs Trulli and Glock?

CONSTRUCTOR TEAM     POINTS
1. Ferrari    172
2. McLaren Mercedes    151
3. BMW Sauber    135
4. Renault    80
5. Toyota    56
6. Scuderia Toro Rosso    39
7. Red Bull Racing    29
8. Williams    26
9. Honda Racing    14

last seasons standings

10. Force India 0
11. Super Aguri 0

haha it didnt show those on ITV F1

Honda were full justified in pulling out its just a terrible shame they did. Obviously couldnt get the development together which i find hard with the budget that they have. I do not believe their problems lay in the drivers.