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2008-11-30 15:23:48
PureFodder
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lowing wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

lowing wrote:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf6.html#g


yeah and here is their side. the problem is this. I lend more credibility to those that do not usw women and children as shields or strap bombs to children to blow up in a crowed market. How 'bout you?

As far the mexico thing goes. IF Mexico  and the US were fighting over territory and the UN only passed resolution after resolution against the US. You would be sitting here saying how the US doesn't adhere to UN resolutions.  The fact is, those resolutions you are citing are biased and unfair against Israel. Regardless of the issue.
Israel have used women and children as human shields repeatedly.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&am … &meta=
Your claim that the resolutions are biased ans unfair is due to the number of them, but the number of them is due in part to the lack of repercussions faced when they violate them.

If Israel were not treated with a bias by the UN they would be under severe economic sanctions, if not an invasion by now.
No, I never said they were biased and unfair due to the number of them. I said they were biased and unfair period. Israel should not have to comply with resolutions that are clearly biased against them and in no way is a fair resolution of the issue at hand.
The source you quoted only used the number of resolutions as proof of bias.

Can you show that each and every resolution against Israel is biased?

If you can explicity show beyond resonable doubt that each resolution is specifically biased, then you may have a point. If not then you're entire argument fails.
2008-11-30 21:11:08
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PureFodder wrote:

lowing wrote:

PureFodder wrote:


Israel have used women and children as human shields repeatedly.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&am … &meta=
Your claim that the resolutions are biased ans unfair is due to the number of them, but the number of them is due in part to the lack of repercussions faced when they violate them.

If Israel were not treated with a bias by the UN they would be under severe economic sanctions, if not an invasion by now.
No, I never said they were biased and unfair due to the number of them. I said they were biased and unfair period. Israel should not have to comply with resolutions that are clearly biased against them and in no way is a fair resolution of the issue at hand.
The source you quoted only used the number of resolutions as proof of bias.

Can you show that each and every resolution against Israel is biased?

If you can explicity show beyond resonable doubt that each resolution is specifically biased, then you may have a point. If not then you're entire argument fails.
http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:4LBM … &gl=us


as if the obvious wasn't enough
2008-11-30 23:00:37
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Lowing wrote:

http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:4LBM … &gl=us
So Israel's unblinking, unthinking ally in the world passes a bill griping about bias against Israel?

Sorry, thats not news.

I'm sure the Japanese passed lots of Pro-Nazi stuff back in the day.

The reason there are so many resolutions passed by the UNGA, as pointed out already, is that any action against Israel gets blocked by the US in the UNSC.

So resolutions get passed, they don't get enforced. The only thing the UNGA can do is pass further resolutions to register their disgust.

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2008-11-30 23:08:51
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Lowing wrote:

http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:4LBM … &gl=us
So Israel's unblinking, unthinking ally in the world passes a bill griping about bias against Israel?

Sorry, thats not news.

I'm sure the Japanese passed lots of Pro-Nazi stuff back in the day.

The reason there are so many resolutions passed by the UNGA, as pointed out already, is that any action against Israel gets blocked by the US in the UNSC.

So resolutions get passed, they don't get enforced. The only thing the UNGA can do is pass further resolutions to register their disgust.
ok tell ya what,



I feel you will do this shit all day long, anything I post that shows bias against Israel, which is all over the net, you will counter with some reason to dismiss it, why don't you post some links discribing just how fair and unbiased the UN has historically been toward Israel?
2008-12-01 00:23:16
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Lowing wrote:

I feel you will do this shit all day long
No disagreement here.

Lowing wrote:

anything I post that shows bias against Israel,..., you will counter with some reason to dismiss it
thats how debating works.

Lowing wrote:

why don't you post some links discribing just how fair and unbiased the UN has historically been toward Israel?
It wouldn't be much of a debate then would it?
'I think Israel is great, and we must bow down as God's chosen people slaughter innocents and steal their land'
'I agree'
Where would the fun be there?
Anyway, you've already demostrated the UN's lack of bias.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace+Process…on+181.htm

Now - given the UN created Israel, in the face of arab opposition, please explain how the UN is anti-Israeli and pro-Arab.

The UN is not biased, anti-semitic or whatever, it just reflects world opinion - outside the blinkered and hoodwinked US - that the Israelis actions are unacceptable.

Ariel Sharon was right, the US is Israel's bitch.

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2008-12-01 00:50:07
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Well if you think that creating the state of Israel was a roaring success, would you say the same thing about Iraq?
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
2008-12-01 01:09:01
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Anyway, goddamit, how did my 9/11 truth thread get hijacked and turned into an Israel bashing thread?
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2008-12-01 01:45:01
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Lowing wrote:

I feel you will do this shit all day long
No disagreement here.

Lowing wrote:

anything I post that shows bias against Israel,..., you will counter with some reason to dismiss it
thats how debating works.

Lowing wrote:

why don't you post some links discribing just how fair and unbiased the UN has historically been toward Israel?
It wouldn't be much of a debate then would it?
'I think Israel is great, and we must bow down as God's chosen people slaughter innocents and steal their land'
'I agree'
Where would the fun be there?
Anyway, you've already demostrated the UN's lack of bias.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace+Process…on+181.htm

Now - given the UN created Israel, in the face of arab opposition, please explain how the UN is anti-Israeli and pro-Arab.

The UN is not biased, anti-semitic or whatever, it just reflects world opinion - outside the blinkered and hoodwinked US - that the Israelis actions are unacceptable.

Ariel Sharon was right, the US is Israel's bitch.
the math is pretty simple and straight forward


The 33 countries (58%) that voted in favour of the partition were: Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Byelorussian SSR, Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Sweden, South Africa, Ukrainian SSR, United States of America, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Uruguay, Venezuela.

The 13 countries (23%) that voted against resolution were: Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.

The 10 countries (17%) that abstained were: Argentina, Chile, Republic of China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Yugoslavia.


so now we know how Israel came to be, and I have already posted links that suggest the UN is noticably biased against Israel. Now that that is done.

Feel free to post links instead of (lip service) as to how the UN is NOT biased against Israel
One state (2%) was absent: Thailand
2008-12-01 01:50:46
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lowing wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

lowing wrote:

No, I never said they were biased and unfair due to the number of them. I said they were biased and unfair period. Israel should not have to comply with resolutions that are clearly biased against them and in no way is a fair resolution of the issue at hand.
The source you quoted only used the number of resolutions as proof of bias.

Can you show that each and every resolution against Israel is biased?

If you can explicity show beyond resonable doubt that each resolution is specifically biased, then you may have a point. If not then you're entire argument fails.
http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:4LBM … &gl=us


as if the obvious wasn't enough
Again, another source that only uses the number of resolutions against Israel as proof that they are biased, completely failing to show that any of the resolutions are in fact unfair.

If there is a bias in the UN it is in favour of Israel. Instead of punishing Israel for it's actions, they just make another resolution.

Even if for come strange reson you want to believe that all the resolutions are just made up to be vindictive agaisnt Israel, why, if everyone at the UN hates Israel so much, are the consequeses for violating UN resoultions so piss weak against Israel in comparison to any other country. If all the resolutions are there because people hate Israel, why wouldn't they take even remotely similar actions when Israel violates a UN resolution in comparison to any other country.

Essentially the UN just repeatedly tells off Israel, with everyone else, they get punished for violating resolutions. The bias in favour of Israel in the UN is clear as day.
2008-12-01 01:54:21
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lowing wrote:

the math is pretty simple and straight forward

The 33 countries (58%) that voted in favour of the partition were: Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Byelorussian SSR, Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Sweden, South Africa, Ukrainian SSR, United States of America, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Uruguay, Venezuela.

The 13 countries (23%) that voted against resolution were: Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.

The 10 countries (17%) that abstained were: Argentina, Chile, Republic of China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Yugoslavia.
Forget math, look at geography.

Who lives there or in that region? I've made it easy for you, they're in bold.

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2008-12-01 01:58:50
lowing
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PureFodder wrote:

lowing wrote:

PureFodder wrote:


The source you quoted only used the number of resolutions as proof of bias.

Can you show that each and every resolution against Israel is biased?

If you can explicity show beyond resonable doubt that each resolution is specifically biased, then you may have a point. If not then you're entire argument fails.
http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:4LBM … &gl=us


as if the obvious wasn't enough
Again, another source that only uses the number of resolutions against Israel as proof that they are biased, completely failing to show that any of the resolutions are in fact unfair.

If there is a bias in the UN it is in favour of Israel. Instead of punishing Israel for it's actions, they just make another resolution.

Even if for come strange reson you want to believe that all the resolutions are just made up to be vindictive agaisnt Israel, why, if everyone at the UN hates Israel so much, are the consequeses for violating UN resoultions so piss weak against Israel in comparison to any other country. If all the resolutions are there because people hate Israel, why wouldn't they take even remotely similar actions when Israel violates a UN resolution in comparison to any other country.

Essentially the UN just repeatedly tells off Israel, with everyone else, they get punished for violating resolutions. The bias in favour of Israel in the UN is clear as day.
actually no, you may wanna re-read ( assuming you read it in the first place) the link. It points out the discrrmpencies.

Also is it not easy to figure out why Israel gets a pass? It is called US intervention.

Like I said, I showed where the UN shows bias against Israel by its double standards and constant harrassment with bullshit resolutions. Show me where this not the case by showing equal amounts of resolutions against Arab or Islamic states doing worse shit than Isrel is accused of doing, also where the UN actually enforces any of them lately.
2008-12-01 02:06:20
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I have no idea what point you're making.

'The UN' isn't some notional organisation with its own agenda, its representative of all the countries in the world.
If you're saying the UN is biased against Israel, having voted to found it in the first place, then that's ridiculous.

Lowing wrote:

I have already posted links that suggest the UN is noticably biased against Israel
No you've just shown Israel has a higher proportion of critical UN resolutions against them compared with some other countires, and we've explained to you why - its very simple.
I can't think of another country in the world which has got away with the ethnic cleansing and genocide Israel has.

They didn't even meet the obligations placed on them when they were gifted someone elses land.

-Freedom of conscience and the free exercise of all forms of worship, subject only to the maintenance of public order and morals, shall be ensured to all.

-No discrimination of any kind shall be made between the inhabitants on the ground of race, religion, language or sex.

-All persons within the jurisdiction of the State shall be entitled to equal protection of the laws.

-No expropriation of land owned by an Arab in the Jewish State (by a Jew in the Arab State)(4) shall be allowed except for public purposes. In all cases of expropriation full compensation as fixed by the Supreme Court shall be said previous to dispossession.

Instead they created a racist, apartheid theocratic state and drove the Palestinians out of their own land by blitzkrieg and terror.

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2008-12-01 02:12:45
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

I have no idea what point you're making.

'The UN' isn't some notional organisation with its own agenda, its representative of all the countries in the world.
If you're saying the UN is biased against Israel, having voted to found it in the first place, then that's ridiculous.

Lowing wrote:

I have already posted links that suggest the UN is noticably biased against Israel
No you've just shown Israel has a higher proportion of critical UN resolutions against them compared with some other countires, and we've explained to you why - its very simple.
I can't think of another country in the world which has got away with the ethnic cleansing and genocide Israel has.

They didn't even meet the obligations placed on them when they were gifted someone elses land.

-Freedom of conscience and the free exercise of all forms of worship, subject only to the maintenance of public order and morals, shall be ensured to all.

-No discrimination of any kind shall be made between the inhabitants on the ground of race, religion, language or sex.

-All persons within the jurisdiction of the State shall be entitled to equal protection of the laws.

-No expropriation of land owned by an Arab in the Jewish State (by a Jew in the Arab State)(4) shall be allowed except for public purposes. In all cases of expropriation full compensation as fixed by the Supreme Court shall be said previous to dispossession.

Instead they created a racist, apartheid theocratic state and drove the Palestinians out of their own land by blitzkrieg and terror.
nope, the UN passes resolutions against Israel pretty much every chance it gets, it does not try and resolve issues concerning Israel fairly. It also does not critize other countries for doing the same if not worse shit than Israel is accused of
2008-12-01 02:15:01
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Lowing wrote:

Show me where this not the case by showing equal amounts of resolutions against Arab or Islamic states doing worse shit than Isrel is accused of doing, also where the UN actually enforces any of them lately.
Please point out where an Arab or Islamic state has done anything similar or worse.

Show where an arab or islamic nation is consistently stealing its neighbours land and systematically killing unarmed men,  women and children in refugee camps.
The Serbs tried it and were dealt with pretty quickly (for the UN). Israel has been at it since its foundation and no action at all.

As an example, Iraq didn't do anything, they get multiple UN resolutions aganinst them and an invasion, based on concocted crap.
Iran hasn't done anything to anyone for decades and they get the same deal.
Israel OTOH is allowed all the WMD they want, no question of one single sanction.

Lowing wrote:

the UN passes resolutions against Israel pretty much every chance it gets
Again, the UN is not some organisation in a vacuum, it represents the worldwide community of nations. It does a few things besides pass resolutions against Israel.

Lowing wrote:

It also does not critize other countries for doing the same if not worse shit than Israel is accused of
Lets see some examples.

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2008-12-01 02:28:19
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Lowing wrote:

Show me where this not the case by showing equal amounts of resolutions against Arab or Islamic states doing worse shit than Isrel is accused of doing, also where the UN actually enforces any of them lately.
Please point out where an Arab or Islamic state has done anything similar or worse.

Show where an arab or islamic nation is consistently stealing its neighbours land and systematically killing unarmed men,  women and children in refugee camps.
The Serbs tried it and were dealt with pretty quickly (for the UN). Israel has been at it since its foundation and no action at all.

As an example, Iraq didn't do anything, they get multiple UN resolutions aganinst them and an invasion, based on concocted crap.
Iran hasn't done anything to anyone for decades and they get the same deal.
Israel OTOH is allowed all the WMD they want, no question of one single sanction.

Lowing wrote:

the UN passes resolutions against Israel pretty much every chance it gets
Again, the UN is not some organisation in a vacuum, it represents the worldwide community of nations. It does a few things besides pass resolutions against Israel.

Lowing wrote:

It also does not critize other countries for doing the same if not worse shit than Israel is accused of
Lets see some examples.
You are biased. There more to the Israeli and Palastine issue than just Israel. So stop talking as if Israel is the only nation at fault. Maybe you should try getting past your own bias.

I am not going to waste more time on links that you are summarily going to dismiss for one reason or another due to your own bias. I already asked yout to show me where the UN treats Israel fair as you maintain, yet you have not done so.

I posted link after link, read them
2008-12-01 02:37:56
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lowing wrote:

PureFodder wrote:

lowing wrote:

http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:4LBMhkogsBIJ:www.eyeontheun.org/assets/attachments/articles/2106_house_passes_rothmans_resolution_to_stop_un_bias_against_israel.doc+unfair+resolutions+against+Israel&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us


as if the obvious wasn't enough
Again, another source that only uses the number of resolutions against Israel as proof that they are biased, completely failing to show that any of the resolutions are in fact unfair.

If there is a bias in the UN it is in favour of Israel. Instead of punishing Israel for it's actions, they just make another resolution.

Even if for come strange reson you want to believe that all the resolutions are just made up to be vindictive agaisnt Israel, why, if everyone at the UN hates Israel so much, are the consequeses for violating UN resoultions so piss weak against Israel in comparison to any other country. If all the resolutions are there because people hate Israel, why wouldn't they take even remotely similar actions when Israel violates a UN resolution in comparison to any other country.

Essentially the UN just repeatedly tells off Israel, with everyone else, they get punished for violating resolutions. The bias in favour of Israel in the UN is clear as day.
actually no, you may wanna re-read ( assuming you read it in the first place) the link. It points out the discrrmpencies.

Also is it not easy to figure out why Israel gets a pass? It is called US intervention.

Like I said, I showed where the UN shows bias against Israel by its double standards and constant harrassment with bullshit resolutions. Show me where this not the case by showing equal amounts of resolutions against Arab or Islamic states doing worse shit than Isrel is accused of doing, also where the UN actually enforces any of them lately.
Neither of your two sources show that any resolutions agaisnt Israel are unfair, they just state that there are lots of resolutions agaisnt Israel and therefore conclude that they must be unfair without actually showing that eany of them are. If you want to show that the resolutions agaisnt Israel are all unfair, name each resolution agaisnt Israel and why each one is unfair.

http://www.fpif.org/commentary/2002/0210unres.html
Turkey is in violation of almost as many UN resolutions as Israel, Morocco isn't far behind either, both of which are Islamic states.

UN Trade sanctions are in effect against:
The Taliban, Burma, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Lebanon, Liberia, Lybia, North Korea, Somalia Sudan, Uzbekistan, Zimbabwe,

Arms embargos are on:
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Burma, China, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Lebanon, Liberia, North Korea, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Somalia Sudan, Uzbakistan and Zimbabwe.
2008-12-01 02:45:42
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PureFodder wrote:

lowing wrote:

PureFodder wrote:


Again, another source that only uses the number of resolutions against Israel as proof that they are biased, completely failing to show that any of the resolutions are in fact unfair.

If there is a bias in the UN it is in favour of Israel. Instead of punishing Israel for it's actions, they just make another resolution.

Even if for come strange reson you want to believe that all the resolutions are just made up to be vindictive agaisnt Israel, why, if everyone at the UN hates Israel so much, are the consequeses for violating UN resoultions so piss weak against Israel in comparison to any other country. If all the resolutions are there because people hate Israel, why wouldn't they take even remotely similar actions when Israel violates a UN resolution in comparison to any other country.

Essentially the UN just repeatedly tells off Israel, with everyone else, they get punished for violating resolutions. The bias in favour of Israel in the UN is clear as day.
actually no, you may wanna re-read ( assuming you read it in the first place) the link. It points out the discrrmpencies.

Also is it not easy to figure out why Israel gets a pass? It is called US intervention.

Like I said, I showed where the UN shows bias against Israel by its double standards and constant harrassment with bullshit resolutions. Show me where this not the case by showing equal amounts of resolutions against Arab or Islamic states doing worse shit than Isrel is accused of doing, also where the UN actually enforces any of them lately.
Neither of your two sources show that any resolutions agaisnt Israel are unfair, they just state that there are lots of resolutions agaisnt Israel and therefore conclude that they must be unfair without actually showing that eany of them are. If you want to show that the resolutions agaisnt Israel are all unfair, name each resolution agaisnt Israel and why each one is unfair.

http://www.fpif.org/commentary/2002/0210unres.html
Turkey is in violation of almost as many UN resolutions as Israel, Morocco isn't far behind either, both of which are Islamic states.

UN Trade sanctions are in effect against:
The Taliban, Burma, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Lebanon, Liberia, Lybia, North Korea, Somalia Sudan, Uzbekistan, Zimbabwe,

Arms embargos are on:
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Burma, China, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Lebanon, Liberia, North Korea, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Somalia Sudan, Uzbakistan and Zimbabwe.
You must be outta yer mind if you think I am going to research each and every resolution against Israel and report to YOU my findings just to satisfy you. You nor this discussion is that important. Even if I did, it would not be good enough for you and would again dismiss it.
I have already posted links that show the bias against Israel. This is the last link I will provide. the UN is biased get over it.

http://www.science.co.il/Arab-Israeli-c … -05-20.asp
2008-12-01 03:40:37
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A very nice, non biased Israeli source you have there. I'm sure Israel are very even handed with their analysis of Israel.

There is absolutely no way to deny the fact that Israel faces no repercussions for the repeated violations of UN resolutions. Yes, the UN is biased, in favour of Israel. Resolutions against Israel are hollow threats that carry no repercussions for continued violations so what are they bitching about?

If I decree that all resolutions against North Korea are biased, then quote a North Korean website that states that the resolutions against North Korea are biased would you accept that?

EDIT:http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/11/ … Rights.php
There we go, NK are clearly completely innocent victims of UN harassment!

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2008-12-01 04:04:40
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Lowing wrote:

You must be outta yer mind if you think I am going to research each and every resolution against Israel and report to YOU my findings just to satisfy you.
You're trying to prove your point, if you don't have anything to back up your argument, or can't be bothered, thats your problem.
The null hypothesis is the UN is unbiased, as it is representative of the whole world, its up to you to disprove that.

I am not interested in any Israeli sources 'proving' the whole world is biased against them, thats paranoia talking.
You need some unbiased sources to be convincing.

Here's a link to get you started
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un … ing_Israel

Lets try one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nat … lution_446
'"that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East"
Passed 12 votes to zero, 3 abstentions. The whole UNSC is biased against Israel? Right....

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2008-12-01 05:35:36
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I've noticed something from this thread... there are no credible sources for criticism against Israel in the eyes of those that support Israel.

You post a link to a Reuters report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a CNN report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a BBC report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a human rights organisation report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You refer to the many UN resolutions Israel has violated... they will dismiss them as biased.

...what's the fucking point in arguing with a brick wall?
2008-12-01 05:45:33
lowing
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PureFodder wrote:

A very nice, non biased Israeli source you have there. I'm sure Israel are very even handed with their analysis of Israel.

There is absolutely no way to deny the fact that Israel faces no repercussions for the repeated violations of UN resolutions. Yes, the UN is biased, in favour of Israel. Resolutions against Israel are hollow threats that carry no repercussions for continued violations so what are they bitching about?

If I decree that all resolutions against North Korea are biased, then quote a North Korean website that states that the resolutions against North Korea are biased would you accept that?

EDIT:http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/11/ … Rights.php
There we go, NK are clearly completely innocent victims of UN harassment!
Unfortunately I doubt there are any sources that are unbiased one way or another. What you need to ask is, regardless of the source, is the info factual or not.

Tell ya what find me an unbiased website concerning abortion.
2008-12-01 05:46:57
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Braddock wrote:

I've noticed something from this thread... there are no credible sources for criticism against Israel in the eyes of those that support Israel.

You post a link to a Reuters report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a CNN report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a BBC report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a human rights organisation report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You refer to the many UN resolutions Israel has violated... they will dismiss them as biased.

...what's the fucking point in arguing with a brick wall?
yeah, as if that is not a 2 way street braddock, get real.
2008-12-01 05:54:39
Braddock
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lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

I've noticed something from this thread... there are no credible sources for criticism against Israel in the eyes of those that support Israel.

You post a link to a Reuters report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a CNN report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a BBC report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a human rights organisation report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You refer to the many UN resolutions Israel has violated... they will dismiss them as biased.

...what's the fucking point in arguing with a brick wall?
yeah, as if that is not a 2 way street braddock, get real.
I know there are brick walls on the Palestinian side of the argument too but to be fair lowing even you will admit that the likes of myself, CameronPoe, Bertser and others will at least denounce all Palestinian attacks on innocent civilians. The same dissent is rarely heard on the other side when it comes to theft of Palestinian land and property and collective punishment.
2008-12-01 06:28:48
lowing
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Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

I've noticed something from this thread... there are no credible sources for criticism against Israel in the eyes of those that support Israel.

You post a link to a Reuters report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a CNN report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a BBC report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You post a link to a human rights organisation report... they will dismiss it as biased.

You refer to the many UN resolutions Israel has violated... they will dismiss them as biased.

...what's the fucking point in arguing with a brick wall?
yeah, as if that is not a 2 way street braddock, get real.
I know there are brick walls on the Palestinian side of the argument too but to be fair lowing even you will admit that the likes of myself, CameronPoe, Bertser and others will at least denounce all Palestinian attacks on innocent civilians. The same dissent is rarely heard on the other side when it comes to theft of Palestinian land and property and collective punishment.
I do not look at it as theft. Israel needs to stop the means used to wage war against them. Since no one else is doing it, and I dare say actually support it, they are doing it themselves. Do not get mad at them for using extreme measures to fight extreme acts against them.

Last edited by lowing (2008-12-01 06:30:09)

2008-12-01 06:30:40
Braddock
Agitator
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lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:


yeah, as if that is not a 2 way street braddock, get real.
I know there are brick walls on the Palestinian side of the argument too but to be fair lowing even you will admit that the likes of myself, CameronPoe, Bertser and others will at least denounce all Palestinian attacks on innocent civilians. The same dissent is rarely heard on the other side when it comes to theft of Palestinian land and property and collective punishment.
I do not look at it as theft. Israel needs to stop the means used t owage war against them. Since no one else is doing it, and I dare say actually support it, them are doing it themselves. Do not get mad at them for using extreme measures to extreme acts against them.
You've just proved my point lowing... Israel can do no wrong in your eyes.

 

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