Braddock
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Declan Ganley - Businessman? Arms Dealer? Politician? Dissident? The Devil incarnate? Or the subject of an Irish and EU-led hatchet job?

RTÉ, the Irish State broadcaster, aired a documentary of FOX News proportions tonight on its supposed marquee current affairs program Prime Time that purported to shine a light on who exactly Declan Ganley is. For those of us here who are not Irish and who have no idea who this guy is, Declan Ganley is a very rich and charismatic English-born Irishman who rose to prominence after successfully leading the NO campaign to victory in the recent Lisbon referendum here in Ireland this year. He has had both success and failure in his many business ventures over the years and has been involved in everything from Latvian forestry to communications technology for warfare scenarios. He has served as an advisor to foreign Governments in the past and is now the founder and leader of Libertas, a self-styled think tank on European affairs. Some reports recently have suggested that Mr. Ganley could be moving to turn Libertas into a European political party; Ganley recently hosted Euro-sceptic Czech President Václav Klaus on his recent visit to Ireland.

Now as far I'm concerned the jury is still out on this guy, he is a very interesting character but I don't know enough to be sold on him one way or another. He was a very articulate and persuasive speaker in the run up to the Lisbon referendum and I don't think the NO campaign would have had anywhere near as much momentum or drive without his leadership (and financial input!). I have to say RTÉ let themselves down tonight with this Prime Time 'special'. I've grown to expect certain things from Prime Time over the last couple of years (e.g. ambient, evil music played over sinister shots of people with their faces blurred out and open-ended accusatory questions with no actual answers or proof) but tonight just came across as a total hatchet-job; Prime Time tacitly accused this guy of being a Neo-Con puppet, an arms dealer and a corrupt businessman and suggested that he may be somehow implicated in the murder of a former business colleague; as a glorious denouement they pointed out the flaws of other European figures he has met with in the past (e.g. Václav Klaus and his belief that climate change is not man made and Dariusz Sobkow and his negative view of homosexuality) as though they might be in some way attributed to Ganley himself. Now if the State broadcaster wants to take a public figure down with actual facts then they're quite right to do so, but tonight's program was nothing more than hearsay, accusations and guilt by association.

If Ganley is a man with a dark past or a man with dark aspirations then take him down with facts. I mention him to you now because he may become a big player on the European political scene in the near future.

One point worth noting: RTÉ were recently quizzed angrily by the Government over their coverage of the Lisbon referendum - the Government believing that they were too partisan on the side of the NO campaign (which I personally didn't think myself)

Source: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ire … 25230.html

Last edited by Braddock (2008-11-27 16:28:15)

usmarine
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That's a terrible suit.  god awful.

oh, i still do not understand your post btw.
ghettoperson
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usmarine wrote:

That's a terrible suit.  god awful.

oh, i still do not understand your post btw.
Proof that money does not buy you taste in suits.
AussieReaper
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Expect a swift reply from Ganley in the form of a lawsuit, I'm telling you know that RTÉ will be issuing a formal apology and an out of court settlement.
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Braddock
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usmarine wrote:

That's a terrible suit.  god awful.

oh, i still do not understand your post btw.
Here's the quick and easy guide to what's going on...

1. Declan Ganley leads the Lisbon Treaty NO campaign to a resounding win against the Government backed YES campaign.

2. The Government call RTÉ to task for their supposedly biased coverage of the Lisbon referendum debate.

3. RTÉ all of a sudden make Declan Ganley public enemy number one as talk begin of a possible second Irish Lisbon referendum.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-11-27 16:32:58)

Braddock
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Expect a swift reply from Ganley in the form of a lawsuit, I'm telling you know that RTÉ will be issuing a formal apology and an out of court settlement.
I think there will be a certain amount of legal response on certain aspects but it was typical trashy journalism - close to the wire but without anything specific enough to constitute slander. It was more a case of them saying things like "he may have done this", "we don't know what his level of involvement was in this" and "some people have accused him of being this" and so on.
AussieReaper
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Braddock wrote:

I think there will be a certain amount of legal response on certain aspects but it was typical trashy journalism - close to the wire but without anything specific enough to constitute slander. It was more a case of them saying things like "he may have done this", "we don't know what his level of involvement was in this" and "some people have accused him of being this" and so on.
Ah I see. When you said it was of FoxNews proportions I assumed they really went to town with the mud raking on this guy.

Is there really a chance of another referendum? That's ridiculous. If the first one is shot down you don't expect another to be in the pipeline so soon.

It will be a huge waste of tax payers money, huge waste of money for those campaigning for a 2nd time after already having won the first referendum and the Govt. funds for the YES side are going to be campaigning even stronger.

Hope that it gets shot down my an even higher majority.
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Braddock
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Braddock wrote:

I think there will be a certain amount of legal response on certain aspects but it was typical trashy journalism - close to the wire but without anything specific enough to constitute slander. It was more a case of them saying things like "he may have done this", "we don't know what his level of involvement was in this" and "some people have accused him of being this" and so on.
Ah I see. When you said it was of FoxNews proportions I assumed they really went to town with the mud raking on this guy.

Is there really a chance of another referendum? That's ridiculous. If the first one is shot down you don't expect another to be in the pipeline so soon.

It will be a huge waste of tax payers money, huge waste of money for those campaigning for a 2nd time after already having won the first referendum and the Govt. funds for the YES side are going to be campaigning even stronger.

Hope that it gets shot down my an even higher majority.
It is a disgrace, the general idea is that if they tack on a few explanatory notes this time around it somehow justifies another referendum even though the first one wasn't even close. It's literally a case of "Now listen... we're going to keep doing this until ye get it right".

On the issue of the program tonight, the muck raking was bad, very bad by State broadcaster standards, but possibly not quite up there with FOX's high standards! We may still see a spirited rebuttal though by Ganley I think.
Max Fightmaster
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I think the idea is to remove the controversial points of the treaty this time around. The last one had just too much in it. It's not a clear cut issue like abortion, much more multi-faceted. One step at a time and all that. Nonetheless, I won't be supporting it anytime soon and regardless of Ganley's background or motives he stepped up to the plate and ran a legitimate campaign and for that he deserves credit.
Braddock
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An example of Prime Time's style of journalism, brought to you by the 'Aprés Match' team...

M.O.A.B
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Did he have any links to the IRA? Then I'll say arms dealer.
Braddock
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M.O.A.B wrote:

Did he have any links to the IRA? Then I'll say arms dealer.
No. He has links to the US military and the war in Iraq though. He owns Rivada Networks.
Max Fightmaster
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Message over motive. Thats whats important. Regardless of his interests he supported a just cause for just reasons. If G.W. Bush had been a great president we wouldn't try to undermine that by bringing up his bad history.
Catbox
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He looks a little like your and Cam's older brother...lol... 

on topic... If he is a good guy hopefully people stand up for him in Ireland and denounce the bogus claims...
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Braddock
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Ho ho... looks like Mr. Ganley is going to sue the balls off of RTÉ! I'm delighted...

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1204/ganleyd.html

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