Nope, not one bit. I am not some 15 year old kid here Don, I am a husband and a father of 2. I will protect them, from a home intrusion.DonFck wrote:
Oh dear God, I hope you're joking.
So breaking and entering warrants, what basically can be considered as, and actually is, murder?lowing wrote:
Nope, not one bit. I am not some 15 year old kid here Don, I am a husband and a father of 2. I will protect them, from a home intrusion.DonFck wrote:
Oh dear God, I hope you're joking.
I need around tree fiddy.
Nope, breaking and entering into my home warrants and is considered defending myself and my family.DonFck wrote:
So breaking and entering warrants, what basically can be considered as, and actually is, murder?lowing wrote:
Nope, not one bit. I am not some 15 year old kid here Don, I am a husband and a father of 2. I will protect them, from a home intrusion.DonFck wrote:
Oh dear God, I hope you're joking.
Donny, I am not going to take the chance that the guy is a raving madman. It is not murder it is self defense, the guy is coming into my home with bad intentions, he ain't coming for tea.DonFck wrote:
So breaking and entering warrants, what basically can be considered as, and actually is, murder?lowing wrote:
Nope, not one bit. I am not some 15 year old kid here Don, I am a husband and a father of 2. I will protect them, from a home intrusion.DonFck wrote:
Oh dear God, I hope you're joking.
In my book, it's murder. Regardless of what's legal or not. You'd have the options of shooting in the knee, arm, leg, where ever to disable him, use a baseball bat, call the po-po after that and have it over with.lowing wrote:
Nope, breaking and entering into my home warrants and is considered defending myself and my family.DonFck wrote:
So breaking and entering warrants, what basically can be considered as, and actually is, murder?lowing wrote:
Nope, not one bit. I am not some 15 year old kid here Don, I am a husband and a father of 2. I will protect them, from a home intrusion.
Seems you have as little respect for human life as you have people in poverty (as we have established in previous posts by you).
Then again, maybe I'm just living in my little Utopia here in Nordic-land. Of course, one might ask the question: "Why is it exactly so safe here?"
Of course self defense is warranted, but killing someone? Dude.
I need around tree fiddy.
In a life or death situation that cowboy shit of shooting someone like that does not happen, I have been trained not to shoot to wound. Sad as it may be for that shit heads family.DonFck wrote:
In my book, it's murder. Regardless of what's legal or not. You'd have the options of shooting in the knee, arm, leg, where ever to disable him, use a baseball bat, call the po-po after that and have it over with.lowing wrote:
Nope, breaking and entering into my home warrants and is considered defending myself and my family.DonFck wrote:
So breaking and entering warrants, what basically can be considered as, and actually is, murder?
Seems you have as little respect for human life as you have people in poverty (as we have established in previous posts by you).
So, burglars in the U.S. by default carry firearms and have the intention to kill you and your families?
I need around tree fiddy.
They don't generally announce what they are carrying or what their intentions are. I am not will to take the risk.DonFck wrote:
So, burglars in the U.S. by default carry firearms and have the intention to kill you and your families?
Ok great so I shoot him in the leg and he bleeds out, am I still a murderer?DonFck wrote:
In my book, it's murder. Regardless of what's legal or not. You'd have the options of shooting in the knee, arm, leg, where ever to disable him, use a baseball bat, call the po-po after that and have it over with.lowing wrote:
Nope, breaking and entering into my home warrants and is considered defending myself and my family.DonFck wrote:
So breaking and entering warrants, what basically can be considered as, and actually is, murder?
Seems you have as little respect for human life as you have people in poverty (as we have established in previous posts by you).
Then again, maybe I'm just living in my little Utopia here in Nordic-land. Of course, one might ask the question: "Why is it exactly so safe here?"
Of course self defense is warranted, but killing someone? Dude.
You are very correct. I have little respect for thieves thugs, rapists, child molesters, etc.........If they get killed while committing their crimes so be it. I can say I will do my best to take out any home intruder for a few reasons.
1. If he lives he can still hurt me or my family.
2. retaliation.
3. being sued by him. Yeah, I live in THAT kinda country
Sad thing is if he does live he will sue you. Little while back read about a a guy who broke in with a gun, got shot by the home owner in the house, was paralyzed sued the guy and now has all his medical bills paid for by the family(the victims)
Sorry man, but I disagree. While I don't often agree with Lowing, this is one where I do. Now lets be clear here. The law doesn't allow you to shoot intruders in your yard, nor if they are fleeing the scene.DonFck wrote:
In my book, it's murder. Regardless of what's legal or not. You'd have the options of shooting in the knee, arm, leg, where ever to disable him, use a baseball bat, call the po-po after that and have it over with.lowing wrote:
Nope, breaking and entering into my home warrants and is considered defending myself and my family.DonFck wrote:
So breaking and entering warrants, what basically can be considered as, and actually is, murder?
Seems you have as little respect for human life as you have people in poverty (as we have established in previous posts by you).
Then again, maybe I'm just living in my little Utopia here in Nordic-land. Of course, one might ask the question: "Why is it exactly so safe here?"
Of course self defense is warranted, but killing someone? Dude.
Just keep this mind. Anyone that is willing to break into a home while the owners are there is desperate enough to possibly cause harm/death to said owners. If you were to look at home invasion and robbery statistics in the US, you may not have the same attitude.
I love how Democrat's are so giving when its other peoples' money. Gee wiz...this is going to be a long recession.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like the bailouts have been something the Republicans supported....Harmor wrote:
I love how Democrat's are so giving when its other peoples' money. Gee wiz...this is going to be a long recession.
if the person that broke into my(or your house) is willing to fill out a brief questionnare on what he intends to do after breaking into my house... submit it to me and let me read it... then i will adjust my reaction accordingly... if not... i will do whatever it takes in my power to make sure my family and myself are safe...DonFck wrote:
So, burglars in the U.S. by default carry firearms and have the intention to kill you and your families?
and i can't control what you would do in that situation... but i would hope you would err on the side of your family and your safety
instead of the person that has willfully chosen to do something with possible deadly consequences for him or you and your family...
Love is the answer
Everyone one of them that did support it should be removed from office. Fucking pussy Republicans...they think by being a Democrat they can stay in office. What ever happened to the real Republicans from 1994?TheAussieReaper wrote:
Yeah, I mean, it's not like the bailouts have been something the Republicans supported....Harmor wrote:
I love how Democrat's are so giving when its other peoples' money. Gee wiz...this is going to be a long recession.
If Newt wasn't an adulterer I would support him for president.
lol, just shoot him in the knee. wake up at 3am, jacked up on adrenaline, and then shoot the 3" moving target in the dark. Or you can always just leave the meth addict to his work, and hopefully he doesn't want to rape your wife and children.DonFck wrote:
In my book, it's murder. Regardless of what's legal or not. You'd have the options of shooting in the knee, arm, leg, where ever to disable him, use a baseball bat, call the po-po after that and have it over with.
You always shoot to kill, always. A non-dead home intruder is nothing more than a witness who will lie his ass off to ruin your life. Never leave a living witness. Shoot center mass until your magazine/cylinder is empty.
Security guards are likely to shoot you in the back as your fleeing the scene, followed by firing into the air after you hit the dirt.Reciprocity wrote:
lol, just shoot him in the knee. wake up at 3am, jacked up on adrenaline, and then shoot the 3" moving target in the dark. Or you can always just leave the meth addict to his work, and hopefully he doesn't want to rape your wife and children.DonFck wrote:
In my book, it's murder. Regardless of what's legal or not. You'd have the options of shooting in the knee, arm, leg, where ever to disable him, use a baseball bat, call the po-po after that and have it over with.
You always shoot to kill, always. A non-dead home intruder is nothing more than a witness who will lie his ass off to ruin your life. Never leave a living witness. Shoot center mass until your magazine/cylinder is empty.
Why?
Because when interviewed by police, they say the fired a warning shot, yelled stop, and then shot the robber.
Witnesses when questioned will say they heard two shots fired.
I'm not about to cry over people who get killed trying to commit crimes.
But if you DELIBERATELY kill someone when you don't necessarily have to, then that makes you a murderer in my book.
Mind you, that doesn't include a scenario where someone with a weapon, say a knife, is just a few metres away from you and your family. I think many police/protective services go by the rule that says something like, less than 30 metres (or is that feet), shoot to kill, don't take the risk that the shot won't stop him.
But if you DELIBERATELY kill someone when you don't necessarily have to, then that makes you a murderer in my book.
Mind you, that doesn't include a scenario where someone with a weapon, say a knife, is just a few metres away from you and your family. I think many police/protective services go by the rule that says something like, less than 30 metres (or is that feet), shoot to kill, don't take the risk that the shot won't stop him.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Define "have to".Spark wrote:
I'm not about to cry over people who get killed trying to commit crimes.
But if you DELIBERATELY kill someone when you don't necessarily have to, then that makes you a murderer in my book.
I can not lie, to read that there are people in this world who refuse to defend themselves or their property because a "human life is worth more than property" is about the most pathetic act of pacifism I have ever heard.
Pardon me, but what the fuck?lowing wrote:
I can not lie, to read that there are people in this world who refuse to defend themselves or their property because a "human life is worth more than property" is about the most pathetic act of pacifism I have ever heard.
Hell yes I would defend myself, with as much force as needed/possible by me. But your implication that you would in any case, regardless of circumstances shoot the burglar dead was IMO too much.
This is the time that one would normally ask you "what gave you the idea that I wouldn't defend myself?", but seeing that you are lowing -> you exaggerate and jump into conclusions that are as far fetched as the Virgin Mary actually being a virgin, I'm not even going to bother.
I need around tree fiddy.
Attacking someone, or even taking someone's life, in order to defend your own life or those of your family is fair enough... but taking someone's life when there is only a threat towards your property (and not the lives of you or your family) is not kosher.lowing wrote:
I can not lie, to read that there are people in this world who refuse to defend themselves or their property because a "human life is worth more than property" is about the most pathetic act of pacifism I have ever heard.
Here's how I roll... if you're in my house and you have a weapon or are acting aggressively I will take you down and I won't stop until the threat has been disabled (so to speak), even if that means killing you. If you are in my house and are trying simply to fuck with my stuff I will give you a beat down and, if possible, make sure you don't leg it before the cops come... I will not however kill you thus ruling out the possibility of ever getting compensated for the damage to my property.
Got news for you. Killing an intruder into my home is perfectly legal here. Your "considered as, and actually is, murder" comment is both your opinion and your interpretation of your laws, but does not apply to laws I live under. Oh, and I don't care about the value judgement of your opinion.DonFck wrote:
So breaking and entering warrants, what basically can be considered as, and actually is, murder?lowing wrote:
Nope, not one bit. I am not some 15 year old kid here Don, I am a husband and a father of 2. I will protect them, from a home intrusion.DonFck wrote:
Oh dear God, I hope you're joking.
Yes, if you break into my home, and threaten me and my family, then it most definetely justifies your death. If you take exception to that, I suggest you do not try to break into my home.
I'm not going to kill someone because they want to steal my tv.lowing wrote:
I can not lie, to read that there are people in this world who refuse to defend themselves or their property because a "human life is worth more than property" is about the most pathetic act of pacifism I have ever heard.
If they threaten my life or the life of my family I will defend them.
But a tv? It's not worth my life or the criminals, either.
Human life is worth more than property.
You get car insurance, you can afford to buy a new car.
You get life insurance, you can afford a nice coffin.
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