BF2S Forums Barack Obama Elects Son Of Terrorist

Bertster7 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

If he had dual American-Palestinian citizenship, his father had been a member of the PLO and he served in the Hamas militia would it be an issue?

FEOS wrote:

But to address your last question: If he had served in the Hamas militia, it would absolutely be an issue. He took an active role in an internationally-recognized terrorist organization...recently. Say what you want about the IDF, but they are not an internationally-recognized terrorist organization, and their stated doctrine does not include the targeting of non-combatants.

He's not talking about the IDF. His father was a member of the Irgun. There is no question whatsoever that while he was serving with them they were very much an active and internationally recognised terrorist organisation who frequently targeted civilians.

Either you haven't read what he wrote properly or you're being a bit of a hypocrite (seems to me you misread his question).

*edit* I've assumed that the bit in italics is also talking about his father - which could well have been a mistake on my part, if so I apologise.

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Even if it was the British armed forces, it would still be subject to question. Infact, I think the IDF is the only thing in the world that Americans would accept to be ok to serve under, yet still be a high ranking official in their government. You guys are just so embedded that.......well, I lol at it tbh.

Also Bertester, bad example talking about PLO. You've made it easy for FEOS.

Bertster wrote:

*edit* I've assumed that the bit in italics is also talking about his father - which could well have been a mistake on my part, if so I apologise.

FEOS wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Even if it was the British armed forces, it would still be subject to question. Infact, I think the IDF is the only thing in the world that Americans would accept to be ok to serve under, yet still be a high ranking official in their government. You guys are just so embedded that.......well, I lol at it tbh.

Also Bertester, bad example talking about PLO. You've made it easy for FEOS.

Would that be why we have UK and Aussie armed forces (and other countries) working at the Pentagon and serving as exchange officers in our military units? Is that why there is a Luftwaffe training base in New Mexico?

And Americans have served under UK leadership many times (and other NATO countries right now in Afghanistan). You're inventing a problem where none exists.

FEOS wrote:

Damn, you euros really do have issues with the Jews.

Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Hamas is still on the list of international terrorist organizations.

So is Irgun, no doubt the British list at least.

OK then.
If you're claiming he could have killed civilians in the Hamas militia I say its just as likely he could have killed civilians while in the IDF.
His precise service background in either would be very hard to determine.

Just stick to this:

If he had dual American-Palestinian citizenship, his father had been a member of the PLO and he served in the Hamas militia would it be an issue?

.Sup wrote:

God Save the Queen wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

So is Irgun, no doubt the British list at least.

OK then.
If you're claiming he could have killed civilians in the Hamas militia I say its just as likely he could have killed civilians while in the IDF.
His precise service background in either would be very hard to determine.

Just stick to this:

If he had dual American-Palestinian citizenship, his father had been a member of the PLO and he served in the Hamas militia would it be an issue?

Palestine is not a country

Thanks to Israel

FEOS wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Well, we're talking about what is effectively the presidents right hand man here. I wouldn't like it if the Prime Ministers right hand man had dual nationality. I'm not aware of any country that would like someone with dual nationality so high up in their government. Especially if they had served under the other nationalities armed forces.

So we're supposed to discriminate against someone because they have dual citizenship? Sorry, but we don't...except for the offices of POTUS/VPOTUS. We ARE a nation of immigrants, you know.

Mekstizzle wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Well, we're talking about what is effectively the presidents right hand man here. I wouldn't like it if the Prime Ministers right hand man had dual nationality. I'm not aware of any country that would like someone with dual nationality so high up in their government. Especially if they had served under the other nationalities armed forces.

So we're supposed to discriminate against someone because they have dual citizenship? Sorry, but we don't...except for the offices of POTUS/VPOTUS. We ARE a nation of immigrants, you know.

Fair enough, except this guy was born in the US. Yet still chose to go and serve the armed forces of another country. I'd say that's some big loyalty split right there. If he was born in Israel, then it wouldn't be so bad. The guy is no immigrant whatsoever. Neither is Obama. Remember the difference between immigrant and minority.

usmarine wrote:

idk.  he the savior of the world so i am told.

FEOS wrote:

Since, in the case of Israel both the actual and claimed intent are the same...

FEOS wrote:

and I guess in the case of Hamas, the actual and claimed intent are the same...then yes.