BF2S Forums Obama say's "development of a nuclear weapon by Iran is unacceptable"

I don't think anyone could stop Iran from gaining nukes if they really wanted to. Everyone could cripple the country via other means though, and if they do it now, then you could get the country to vote out Dinner Jacket when it's in a dire economic situation due to sanctions and shit (unlikely, he's probably going to do a Mugabe)

At the end of the day, you just have to ask why do Iran want nukes in the first place, and what can be done to stop that desire.

Haha. So much for the claim that Obama would be nice and friendly with Iran and they would welcome his Administration with open arms.

Where's your appeasement now?

Stingray24 wrote:

Israel could stop Iran.  Iran wants nukes to help bring the 12th imam, so there's nothing that will stop that desire.

Israel could stop the Palestinians too, and.. oh, wait...

Mmm. As usual, one rule for us developed nation, another for those in the developing world.

So much for being a shining example for the world to follow. The western world is full of hypocrites.

Flecco wrote:

Mmm. As usual, one rule for us developed nation, another for those in the developing world.

So much for being a shining example for the world to follow. The western world is full of hypocrites.

Rather be a safe hypocrite than a dead man.

jord wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Mmm. As usual, one rule for us developed nation, another for those in the developing world.

So much for being a shining example for the world to follow. The western world is full of hypocrites.

Rather be a safe hypocrite than a dead man.

Rather be safe and honest about it than a dead man.

Why bother waving around the NPT. Just makes us all seem untrustworthy. Why not just be honest, would probably work better than 'we signed that but it means jack shit and we'll only stick to it's terms and conditions when we like it.'

usmarine wrote:

unacceptable?  i wonder how he plans to stop it.  i think we all can agree iran won't listen to obama.

They already have stopped it.

Tightening sanctions, which appear to be working, should help to consolidate that. More dialogue concerning civil nuclear power generation is also something he has on the table and is a promising angle.

usmarine wrote:

meh, sounds like warmongering to me.  to say unacceptable implies that you will stop them one way or another.

Good. That's exactly the line that has been taken previously and appears to be working. Iran appear as though they may well have ambitions to produce nuclear weapons but are being deterred by sustained international pressure. Clearly Iran having nuclear weapons is a bad thing.

National Intelligence Estimate, Iran: Nuclear Intentions and Capabilities wrote:

Tehran’s decision to halt its nuclear weapons program suggests it is less determined to develop nuclear weapons than we have been judging since 2005. Our assessment that the program probably was halted primarily in response to international pressure suggests Iran may be more vulnerable to influence on the issue than we judged previously.

Obama is acting exactly as US intelligence estimates suggest he should. He has also remained open to dialogue regarding Iran's civil nuclear capabilities. Which in my opinion is spot on.



Seems strange to see you siding with Iranian politicians over such a delicate issue, rather than with your president elect....

usmarine wrote:

tell me why it is unacceptable?  we all know the reasons why we DON'T want them to have nukes, but its not up to us right?  shouldn't the US and europe stop meddling in other peoples business?

You know full well why.

Because they have a proven track record of supplying arms to terrorist organisations. Terrorist organisations with nukes = bad.

Bertster7 wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

I thought US intelligence believed Iran has halted their nuclear weapons program (at least had moderate confidence of that)?

See page 6 of this National Intelligence Estimate Press Release

But that report seems to support the notion that international pressure has been having substantial influence over Iran, so Obama piling on more pressure would seem to be a sound path to persue.

got ya... Ok for Obama.... not Ok for Bush... lmao...

He's said he wants to sit down and have talks with them about it. He's also said agreements could be reached regarding nuclear power for Iran.

But meanwhile he's strengthening sanctions against them that appear to be working well.

It sounds to me very much in line with the European approach to the Iranian nuclear issue - an approach I have always supported.

Sounds remarkably like the exact same route Bush took with Iran...though admittedly, the "sit down and talk" part took a while.

But it's Obama, so it's the right thing to do. Completely different than when Bush (and Brown, and Sarkozy, and Merkel, and...) said/did it.

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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Obama is stating the previously agreed upon official US foreign policy line - no one can challenge our world supremacy.  The really confusing thing to me is why foreign policymakers advocate isolating Iran from the world community instead of trying to integrate them.

And stingray, you know that 12th Imam shit is bullshit plain and simple - we've been through this before and that (12th imam whatever religious rhetoric) has been debunked.  Why do you keep bringing it up?

I think we're getting ready to invade Iran, but it will probably end up with more international forces than the war with Iraq.  We're essentially pushing Iran's buttons hoping that they snap and attack someone.

take your head out of the sand and your fingers out of your ears.  It's the 21st century, not 8th.

It's been debunked, either on these forums or the temp ones.