Kmar
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US force in Iraq to cut brigade sooner than expected
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WASHINGTON (AFP) — The US military has decided to reduce its total combat force in Iraq by a brigade to 14 brigades sooner than anticipated because of improved security conditions, the Pentagon said Thursday.

The 2nd Brigade of the 101st Airborne Division, which is based in northwest Baghdad, will begin withdrawing this month two months ahead of schedule, Pentagon officials said.

The division's 3rd Brigade also is coming out this month and will not be replaced, which will shrink the size of the US force to 14 combat brigades, they said.

The military command in Iraq said the moves were possible because of reduced violence.

There are still 152,000 US troops in Iraq, only about 10,000 fewer than at the peak of a 30,000 troop surge earlier this year that halted the country's slide into civil war.

Pentagon officials attribute the high troop numbers to overlapping force rotations, but said they were expected to settle at a lower level by early next year.

The moves come as US and Iraqi officials are trying to conclude an agreement that will set forth a timetable for a withdrawal of all combat troops by the end of 2011.

The so-called status of forces agreement will also provide a legal basis for the US military presence beyond the end of this year, when a UN mandate runs out.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the US side had accepted some changes to a draft agreement proposed by the Iraqis, but would not say what they were.
U.S. brings brigade home from Iraq six weeks early
5:09 a.m. November 6, 2008

BAGHDAD – Washington will accelerate its plans to reduce the number of combat troops in Iraq by bringing a brigade home this month, six weeks earlier than anticipated, the U.S. military said on Thursday.

The 2nd Brigade, 101st Airborne Division, based in northwest Baghdad where attacks have dropped sharply, had been scheduled to leave Iraq after Jan. 1. A brigade has about 3,500 soldiers.

'Due to the continued improving security environment ... the unit is able to redeploy six weeks early,' said military spokesman Colonel Bill Buckner.

The outgoing administration of President George W. Bush announced in September it would reduce the U.S. force in Iraq to 14 combat brigades from 15 early next year.

Buckner said the early departure meant the reduction would take place ahead of schedule. Under current plans, 14 combat brigades are due to remain in Iraq through next year.

U.S. President-elect Barack Obama, who will become U.S. president in January, campaigned on a promise to bring combat troops home from Iraq by mid-2010.

The reduction of the U.S. force of about 150,000 in Iraq reflects the growing confidence of U.S. military leaders that security gains in Iraq can be maintained.

U.S. military activities would become more limited next year under a deal that U.S. and Iraqi officials hope to conclude by the end of the year to replace a U.N. troop mandate. The agreement would allow U.S. troops to stay through 2011 and would restrict U.S. patrols of Iraqi cities and towns by mid-2009.
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O Canada
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*shrugs*  I suppose this only matters in the sense that we'll have more troops to send to Afghanistan now.
Kmar
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If that's the case the articles are misleading. Afghanistan seems to have been at least somewhat more tolerable to Americans and the world.
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Mekstizzle
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Tbh, even if/when everyone leaves Iraq. Do you really think that suddenly they'll turn into a pro-West/USA country and be bff? It'll be impressive if they actually do, because then the mission will have been worthwhile to an extent. But I doubt it. If anything any pro-Western/USA/Israel leader of Iraq will be overthrown in a few years and they'll go back to their hatin' on da west syde selves.

Same goes for Afghanistan.

Last edited by Mek-Stizzle (2008-11-08 11:28:45)

jord
Member
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UK is pulling out next year too, load of bullshit.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6926|London, England

jord wrote:

UK is pulling out next year too, load of bullshit.
Why is it BS? You scared you're going to have to go to Afghanistan where it's actually dangerous? Instead of just walting about how you went to Iraq even though there's nothing going on down there anymore
usmarine
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shut up skittles
Hurricane2k9
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let's get the rest home shall we

also, call me naive but aren't those 10th Mountain Division patches on those guys in the photo?

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O Canada
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Kmarion wrote:

If that's the case the articles are misleading. Afghanistan seems to have been at least somewhat more tolerable to Americans and the world.
Well, it would be hard for them to be less tolerable.

Nevertheless, it doesn't really matter if we stay in Iraq and Afghanistan or if we leave.  We're going to waste money and flex our muscles one way or another.

I suppose we can at least look forward to the various advances in technology that will result from these conflicts.  We're doing a lot of research right now.
Mekstizzle
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usmarine wrote:

shut up skittles
no you shut up, ma'am
jord
Member
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

jord wrote:

UK is pulling out next year too, load of bullshit.
Why is it BS? You scared you're going to have to go to Afghanistan where it's actually dangerous? Instead of just walting about how you went to Iraq even though there's nothing going on down there anymore
I wanted to do both.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

let's get the rest home shall we

also, call me naive but aren't those 10th Mountain Division patches on those guys in the photo?
I grab my images from http://corbis.com . They are usually more descriptive than this:

Soldiers Awaiting Flight
Image:           © Owen Franken/Corbis
Collection:           Documentary
Standard RM
Photographer:           Owen Franken
Date Photographed:           December 21, 2005
Location Information:           Baghdad, Iraq

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excellent news
Varegg
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[sarcasm]Prolly so Bush can claim he started the process of bringing the troops home[/sarcasm]
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usmarine
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even when troops leave people bitch.  idiots
Spearhead
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usmarine wrote:

even when troops leave people bitch.  idiots
You gotta admit its convenient that we start right before a new president comes in.  Especially after two years of hearing "no timetables".  Now its a "time horizon".  lol

Last edited by Spearhead (2008-11-08 13:07:16)

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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Why is it BS?
power vacuum and oil.
FEOS
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Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Tbh, even if/when everyone leaves Iraq. Do you really think that suddenly they'll turn into a pro-West/USA country and be bff? It'll be impressive if they actually do, because then the mission will have been worthwhile to an extent. But I doubt it. If anything any pro-Western/USA/Israel leader of Iraq will be overthrown in a few years and they'll go back to their hatin' on da west syde selves.

Same goes for Afghanistan.
Yes, because they'll be looking at the US (and others) for both military and non-military assistance to rebuild.

So long as it's in their national interests (and ours), we'll be buds.
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jord
Member
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usmarine wrote:

even when troops leave people bitch.  idiots
I never wanted to leave.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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Kmarion wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

let's get the rest home shall we

also, call me naive but aren't those 10th Mountain Division patches on those guys in the photo?
I grab my images from http://corbis.com . They are usually more descriptive than this:

Soldiers Awaiting Flight
Image:           © Owen Franken/Corbis
Collection:           Documentary
Standard RM
Photographer:           Owen Franken
Date Photographed:           December 21, 2005
Location Information:           Baghdad, Iraq

It's a good photo, don't get me wrong, but I was just pointing out the slight difference between the 101st Airborne and the 10th Mountain. That, and your photo was taken about 3 years ago
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6905|132 and Bush

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

let's get the rest home shall we

also, call me naive but aren't those 10th Mountain Division patches on those guys in the photo?
I grab my images from http://corbis.com . They are usually more descriptive than this:

Soldiers Awaiting Flight
Image:           © Owen Franken/Corbis
Collection:           Documentary
Standard RM
Photographer:           Owen Franken
Date Photographed:           December 21, 2005
Location Information:           Baghdad, Iraq

It's a good photo, don't get me wrong, but I was just pointing out the slight difference between the 101st Airborne and the 10th Mountain. That, and your photo was taken about 3 years ago
I could have easily pulled the article photo. I just happen to like corbis.
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usmarine
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Spearhead wrote:

usmarine wrote:

even when troops leave people bitch.  idiots
You gotta admit its convenient that we start right before a new president comes in.  Especially after two years of hearing "no timetables".  Now its a "time horizon".  lol
/removes tinfoil hat from spearhead for 5 seconds

/clears throat


look jerky, maybe its because troops rarely have to fire their weapons anymore.  i know people who just did a whole deployment and did not fire their gun once (except for training of course)


/puts tinfoil hat back on spearhead
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6905|132 and Bush

usmarine wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

usmarine wrote:

even when troops leave people bitch.  idiots
You gotta admit its convenient that we start right before a new president comes in.  Especially after two years of hearing "no timetables".  Now its a "time horizon".  lol
/removes tinfoil hat from spearhead for 5 seconds

/clears throat


look jerky, maybe its because troops rarely have to fire their weapons anymore.  i know people who just did a whole deployment and did not fire their gun once (except for training of course)


/puts tinfoil hat back on spearhead
The mandate is expiring (or has). That's what is dictating the timing. Not our cute little election. Iraq has virtually fallen off the map when compared to the economy.

Are you going to put his hat back on?
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usmarine
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he lives in tampa.  i suggest you go to all the stores and buy up all the tin foil.

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