I don't have anything to sell. babeusmarine wrote:
i know you explained......and i aint buying what your selling babe.
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I blame joe the fake plumber
he didnt work for a plumbing company installing plumbing?
he worked for mccainusmarine wrote:
he didnt work for a plumbing company installing plumbing?
lulz.
He did.. but lame asses seem to think that if you are unlicensed then there is now way you can be doing that job. I can only assume they have never hired a contractor. Or they are just not smart enough to know the difference.usmarine wrote:
he didnt work for a plumbing company installing plumbing?
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or they never flew on a airliner.Kmarion wrote:
He did.. but lame asses seem to think that if you are unlicensed then there is now way you can be doing that job. I can only assume they have never hired a contractor. Or they are just not smart enough to know the difference.usmarine wrote:
he didnt work for a plumbing company installing plumbing?
Not for nothing but it was Palin who lost it for McCain.. Hands down alot of on the fencers, just thought about his age and life experance and were very worried about her actually becoming the president..
She was running off of being an Average Jane, which nobody wants to be our Vice President or have a chance of becoming the president.. So hopefully we dodged that bullet and off chance that it might have happened. I think we've really seen the last of her.
She was running off of being an Average Jane, which nobody wants to be our Vice President or have a chance of becoming the president.. So hopefully we dodged that bullet and off chance that it might have happened. I think we've really seen the last of her.
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I think we've really seen the last of her.
she'll probably take an alaskan senate seat and stick around for a bit. Id hate to say it but i dont think this will destroy her career.
It again is too soon to tell, but Fox turning on her = don't really want her around tarnishing they're image.
They were looking for a Rep Hillary to pull votes from the Dem party but didn't really do the research, and went too far right.
They were looking for a Rep Hillary to pull votes from the Dem party but didn't really do the research, and went too far right.
I was bashing the screwdriver, not Palin.Kmarion wrote:
Ignorant is not knowing jack about a person and yet bad mouths them on the basis of unproven rumors coming from incompetent fucks.. The energy plan she put together was comprehensive and far surpasses anything any other state has done .. . You just keep operating under the assumption that she is just a dumb bimbo though. It's the popular thing to do I guess.ghettoperson wrote:
I would if the screwdriver believed in creationism and thought Africa was a country. Fucking ignorant screwdrivers...Kmarion wrote:
She brought something. It was just something they didn't have to worry about. If you are looking to dig a hole and you bring a screwdriver to do the job, don't blame the screwdriver.
Do you really think the decision to use Palin was aimed at moderate "on the fencers". I'm telling you whoever made that decision is responsible.. hands down. Palin ran exactly as they expected her to. But again, things were tanking for McCain long before Palin. It's a pretty well documented fact.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Not for nothing but it was Palin who lost it for McCain.. Hands down alot of on the fencers, just thought about his age and life experance and were very worried about her actually becoming the president..
She was running off of being an Average Jane, which nobody wants to be our Vice President or have a chance of becoming the president.. So hopefully we dodged that bullet and off chance that it might have happened. I think we've really seen the last of her.
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Yeah well he lost any real hope in the 2004 election.. But yes I do belive that Palin was aimed at picking up the Hillary supporters, but was way too right to actaully motivate them to vote for McCain.. That's why this election was run with the Obama vs. Palin in the media with McCain sitting on the side line..
I'm not saying that they left McCain out of it, but Palin was a main focal point more then any VP before.
I'm not saying that they left McCain out of it, but Palin was a main focal point more then any VP before.
Even so Palin still did what she was supposed to. The people who run Presidential campaigns are supposed to be political all-stars, the best at what they do. Arguably they are more important than the candidates (yes I said it). That is why being the most electable person is not always indicative of who is the best person for the job. The lack of foresight was to blame for McCain's loss. They were constantly chasing Barry up until the point of desperation. A good political strategist could have distanced his candidate from the incumbent. It's been done many times before, even in times of war. You're going to tell me that this is because Palin didn't get the "Hillary votes". I think not. Obama had better campaign leaders, there is absolutely no doubt there. And that is why the GOP was dealt a crushing defeat.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Yeah well he lost any real hope in the 2004 election.. But yes I do belive that Palin was aimed at picking up the Hillary supporters, but was way too right to actaully motivate them to vote for McCain.. That's why this election was run with the Obama vs. Palin in the media with McCain sitting on the side line..
I'm not saying that they left McCain out of it, but Palin was a main focal point more then any VP before.
I thought it was Ayers verse Joe the Plumber.
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You've gotta respect McCain for that. Obama supporter or not, it was very remarkable to see he accepted defeat the way he did.Burwhale the Avenger wrote:
JOHN McCain's aides unceremoniously tipped the bucket on Sarah Palin yesterday, portraying her and her family as Alaskan "hillbillies" while it was revealed that the controversial vice-presidential candidate thought Africa was a country.The Australian wrote:
Recriminations are inevitable after an electoral failure this grand, but even so, Senator McCain's senior staff -- looking to deflect blame -- went for the jugular, telling journalists in off-the-record briefings that Ms Palin, whom they had already characterised as a rogue diva, spent more than the reported $US150,000 ($216,000) on clothes, shoes and jewellery for herself and her family.The Australian wrote:
Fox News reporter Carl Cameron disclosed yesterday that McCain insiders told him during the campaign that Ms Palin could not name any of the three countries that form the North American Free Trade Agreement -- the US, Mexico and Canada -- and did not know that Africa was a continent and not a country.Looks like the Blame Game has started, and despite John McCains best efforts to be gracious and take the blame for the election loss onto himself, his Senior Staff have other ideas. This will completely kill off any chance of Palin 2012 happening.The Australian wrote:
The merciless attack on Ms Palin -- who aides said was also given to frequent "temper tantrums" -- comes in retaliation for what McCain's staff considered a treasonous act by Ms Palin's team in the final weeks of the campaign.
McCain aides believe Ms Palin decided to look after her own political image -- she has her eyes set on the 2012 presidential campaign -- by leaking to the media that she had been "mishandled" by McCain's campaign -- particularly Ms Wallace and chief strategist Steve Schmidt -- in the disastrous interview she did with newsreader Katie Couric. The media in turn lapped up the story of a campaign unravelling, distracting Senator McCain's campaign.
She's why they lost, no one can take her seriously. I mean there was a prank call on her, a porn video made based on her and the media made a joke out of her. McCain chose her out of desperation.
yeah, i need to find thisRoc18 wrote:
a porn video made based on her
fucking dipshits don't know why the fail/compounds failure/party implodes.
All Hail The Messiah.
All Hail The Messiah.
It's pretty sad the way everyone runs with it, and I'm sure now that someone posted it it's taken as fact. Bunch of lemmings.Kmarion wrote:
Ignorant is not knowing jack about a person and yet bad mouths them on the basis of unproven rumors coming from incompetent fucks..
It's Bullshit
McCain's campaign lost it before you ever heard the word Palin. I really don't understand why people can't see that. The best I can figure is that their hate for Palin has consumed their ability to see the obvious. Now people in McCains staff are saying that he should have focused more on the economy. They are the same ones who were saying that he should have hit Obama harder on Ayers/Wright before. It's no wonder those idiots lost it for him. They epitomize the word loser.
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Not to alleviate any blame for failures made, but it sure didn't hurt Obama to have almost all the mainstream press in the tank for his campaign.Kmarion wrote:
McCain's campaign lost it before you ever heard the word Palin. I really don't understand why people can't see that. The best I can figure is that their hate for Palin has consumed their ability to see the obvious. Now people in McCains staff are saying that he should have focused more on the economy. They are the same ones who were saying that he should have hit Obama harder on Ayers/Wright before. It's no wonder those idiots lost it for him. They epitomize the word loser.
Yea well, what's the alternative? Conservatives can't bitch about the possibility of a fairness doctrine and then on the other hand stifle free speech. With the media it's caveat emptor.Vax wrote:
Not to alleviate any blame for failures made, but it sure didn't hurt Obama to have almost all the mainstream press in the tank for his campaign.Kmarion wrote:
McCain's campaign lost it before you ever heard the word Palin. I really don't understand why people can't see that. The best I can figure is that their hate for Palin has consumed their ability to see the obvious. Now people in McCains staff are saying that he should have focused more on the economy. They are the same ones who were saying that he should have hit Obama harder on Ayers/Wright before. It's no wonder those idiots lost it for him. They epitomize the word loser.
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McCain lost because of at least 7 years of dissatisfaction with the status quo (Repub) in power. Plus there were front-runner strong Republican candidates - strictly from a personality/charisma perspective, Obama blows McCain out of the water.
The media helped Republican strategists blow up the Ayers, ACORN, and Rev. Wright connections. I'd hardly say the MSM gave a pass on Obama.
The media helped Republican strategists blow up the Ayers, ACORN, and Rev. Wright connections. I'd hardly say the MSM gave a pass on Obama.
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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
and obama does not have goofy shit out there also? he fucked up by picking biden, but got lucky because of bush.Roc18 wrote:
She's why they lost, no one can take her seriously. I mean there was a prank call on her, a porn video made based on her and the media made a joke out of her. McCain chose her out of desperation.