Is it true that the some of the 47 million uninsured Americans that the Democrats mentioned, in the greatest infomercial since Ross Perot in 1991, are illegals?
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I'm sure there are uninsured illegals in the states.
It's hard to get insurance if you are an illegal, for a start.
It's hard to get insurance if you are an illegal, for a start.
I think that the point is that they are treated. And even though you don't pay for it he and I do.TheAussieReaper wrote:
I'm sure there are uninsured illegals in the states.
It's hard to get insurance if you are an illegal, for a start.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Vote for somebody who will secure your southern borders then. Though I bet the cheap labour is bloody useful.DBBrinson1 wrote:
I think that the point is that they are treated. And even though you don't pay for it he and I do.TheAussieReaper wrote:
I'm sure there are uninsured illegals in the states.
It's hard to get insurance if you are an illegal, for a start.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
It isn't as cheap as you imagine.Flecco wrote:
Vote for somebody who will secure your southern borders then. Though I bet the cheap labour is bloody useful.DBBrinson1 wrote:
I think that the point is that they are treated. And even though you don't pay for it he and I do.TheAussieReaper wrote:
I'm sure there are uninsured illegals in the states.
It's hard to get insurance if you are an illegal, for a start.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
What's that mean?DBBrinson1 wrote:
It isn't as cheap as you imagine.Flecco wrote:
Vote for somebody who will secure your southern borders then. Though I bet the cheap labour is bloody useful.DBBrinson1 wrote:
I think that the point is that they are treated. And even though you don't pay for it he and I do.
I'm pretty sure he means taxes.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
I would like to know ATG side of how cheap or not that can be...And also hear about what he have to say about this subject. ATG, here is the mic, lets hear ya!
immigrants go home!
I think that per capita, hispanic illegals take more advantage of social services that their gringo counterparts.
Why?
One reason is that they have Mecha lawyers and activists telling the immigrants that in Aztland, the bendecko hovatos give Mexicans free health care.
I think the drain on our economy from an unsecured border is uncountable and dire.
The fact that the subject never even came up in the debates makes me want to weep.
Both guys running are LOOS ER ER ERS.
Why?
One reason is that they have Mecha lawyers and activists telling the immigrants that in Aztland, the bendecko hovatos give Mexicans free health care.
I think the drain on our economy from an unsecured border is uncountable and dire.
The fact that the subject never even came up in the debates makes me want to weep.
Both guys running are LOOS ER ER ERS.
Totally agree.ATG wrote:
Both guys running are LOOS ER ER ERS.
Plentyful illegal immigrants helps to keep the wages of legal Americans low. They're great for rich businessmen. As rich businessmen tend to have a predominant influence in politics, expect illegals to continue to flood into the country and nobody to do much of anything about it.
If rich people thought that illegal immigrants were bad for their business the whole thing would probably be solved overnight.
If rich people thought that illegal immigrants were bad for their business the whole thing would probably be solved overnight.
There's been plenty of analysis to show that the 47 million claim is an inflated interpretation of reality. When you take out those who are uninsured for 6 months or less, those who choose to be uninsured, and those who are here illegally, the number is closer to about 8 million.
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On the other hand it doesn't include those who have insurance, but due to co-pays, deductables etc. can't afford to get healthcare despite having insurance.FEOS wrote:
There's been plenty of analysis to show that the 47 million claim is an inflated interpretation of reality. When you take out those who are uninsured for 6 months or less, those who choose to be uninsured, and those who are here illegally, the number is closer to about 8 million.
I'd really like to believe this figure, but I want to see some sources first.FEOS wrote:
There's been plenty of analysis to show that the 47 million claim is an inflated interpretation of reality. When you take out those who are uninsured for 6 months or less, those who choose to be uninsured, and those who are here illegally, the number is closer to about 8 million.
That would be because those people have health insurance, which was the measure in question. I sincerely doubt that those who have health insurance (other than COBRA) cannot afford copays and deductibles...particularly since the majority of US health insurance plans have catastrophic caps both individually and per family on out-of-pocket expenses (ie, copays and deductibles).PureFodder wrote:
On the other hand it doesn't include those who have insurance, but due to co-pays, deductables etc. can't afford to get healthcare despite having insurance.
It's somewhere on these forums...sourced and everything.HollisHurlbut wrote:
I'd really like to believe this figure, but I want to see some sources first.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Everything isFEOS wrote:
It's somewhere on these forums...sourced and everything.
Theres only lik e10 million truly uninsured people
the other 40 are either illegal, or are eligible for medicare but havn't signed up yet.
the other 40 are either illegal, or are eligible for medicare but havn't signed up yet.
It isn't even the illegals anymore. Now we have the millions with dual citizenships because their illegal fuck nut parents were allowed to breed here. I have relatives that are this breed of cockeroach. they live in mexico collecting welfare and unemployment and use all the US services in the US. Talk about a drain on the tax payers. I fucking hate them all, they are bred to be welfare loosers living like kings in Mexico on our dime.ATG wrote:
I think that per capita, hispanic illegals take more advantage of social services that their gringo counterparts.
Why?
One reason is that they have Mecha lawyers and activists telling the immigrants that in Aztland, the bendecko hovatos give Mexicans free health care.
I think the drain on our economy from an unsecured border is uncountable and dire.
The fact that the subject never even came up in the debates makes me want to weep.
Both guys running are LOOS ER ER ERS.
The US need citizenship policies that banish these unflushed turds once and for all. Fucking politicians allowing this shit need to be lynched.
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