God Save the Queen
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wasnt some dude named saddam a lot more recent?
Braddock
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God Save the Queen wrote:

wasnt some dude named saddam a lot more recent?
His attempt was so piss poor it barely warrants mentioning. And let's face it, Kuwaitis aren't real people, they're made entirely out of towel.
usmarine
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Braddock wrote:

I believe it was a chap called Adolf who last went around violating borders in pursuit of some lofty higher purpose.
yep, and ireland and most of europe did nothing about it and turned a blind eye.  i still dont see killing al-q is the same as invading another country with masses of troops and such, but you appear to imply that as usual.  you have lost the plot.  big time.
Ottomania
Troll has returned.
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Kurds have no territories at all, no country I mean. they come up with idea of their own land, that consists some part of Turkish south-east region. Thats how pkk started. What would you call a group of mexicans if they try to steal a part of your land?Pkk is a terrorist organization have bombed civilians recently in Istanbul with other civilian bombings, and attacked homeland defending soldiers inside our borders, not as al-q attacked your invader forces miles away from america. If still think that pkk is not a terrorist organization I would say fuck off.

Also usmarine, you blame braddock for finding USA's all acts somehow negative, dont you find all USA's acts somehow positive?
CameronPoe
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Ottomania wrote:

Kurds have no territories at all, no country I mean. they come up with idea of their own land, that consists some part of Turkish south-east region. Thats how pkk started. What would you call a group of mexicans if they try to steal a part of your land?Pkk is a terrorist organization have bombed civilians recently in Istanbul with other civilian bombings, and attacked homeland defending soldiers inside our borders, not as al-q attacked your invader forces miles away from america. If still think that pkk is not a terrorist organization I would say fuck off.

Also usmarine, you blame braddock for finding USA's all acts somehow negative, dont you find all USA's acts somehow positive?
Otto. Why are Kurds - a distinct ethnic and linguistic group - less deserving of their own nation than Turks?
Lisik
Member
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OMG... bunch of peaceful AQ dudes were just having a love trip from Afganistan to Iraq throw Syria and these evil Americans came and killed them.  Jeeeeeez. How Evil is that...

Thanks God we have Europe who will prevent this from happening. The bloody Americans must know that killing terrorists its bad!
Braddock
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usmarine wrote:

Braddock wrote:

I believe it was a chap called Adolf who last went around violating borders in pursuit of some lofty higher purpose.
yep, and ireland and most of europe did nothing about it and turned a blind eye.  i still dont see killing al-q is the same as invading another country with masses of troops and such, but you appear to imply that as usual.  you have lost the plot.  big time.
We were neutral with a bias (we allowed crashed Allied troops to return to their country of origin while detaining Nazi troops) and we shouldn't have had any bias at all so you can thank us for that whenever you're ready!

I never implied the recent Syrian raids were tantamount to a full scale invasion, I just made my opinion clear that if you're going to start ignoring borders and doing what you like in a region where you already occupy two countries by way of preemptive invasions then don't be surprised if the natives get a little restless.

I'd like to see your opinion if Mexico started policing El Paso and San Diego like Cam suggested.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-10-29 08:18:55)

Ottomania
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CameronPoe wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Kurds have no territories at all, no country I mean. they come up with idea of their own land, that consists some part of Turkish south-east region. Thats how pkk started. What would you call a group of mexicans if they try to steal a part of your land?Pkk is a terrorist organization have bombed civilians recently in Istanbul with other civilian bombings, and attacked homeland defending soldiers inside our borders, not as al-q attacked your invader forces miles away from america. If still think that pkk is not a terrorist organization I would say fuck off.

Also usmarine, you blame braddock for finding USA's all acts somehow negative, dont you find all USA's acts somehow positive?
Otto. Why are Kurds - a distinct ethnic and linguistic group - less deserving of their own nation than Turks?
So we should give them a piece of land? Of course they can have their own nation, but we cant reserve some of our territories to them to create a new region. No country can.

And I dont understand why they are disturbed to live under turkish administration, any kurd is equal to a turkish citizen here, we dont force them to to something, Turks and kurds are completely equal. Why they act discriminatory?

Last edited by Ottomania (2008-10-28 08:46:49)

Braddock
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Lisik wrote:

OMG... bunch of peaceful AQ dudes were just having a love trip from Afganistan to Iraq throw Syria and these evil Americans came and killed them.  Jeeeeeez. How Evil is that...

Thanks God we have Europe who will prevent this from happening. The bloody Americans must know that killing terrorists its bad!
The US should go into Palestine and take out some of those Jewish settlers for violating International law while they are at it!
Braddock
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Ottomania wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

Kurds have no territories at all, no country I mean. they come up with idea of their own land, that consists some part of Turkish south-east region. Thats how pkk started. What would you call a group of mexicans if they try to steal a part of your land?Pkk is a terrorist organization have bombed civilians recently in Istanbul with other civilian bombings, and attacked homeland defending soldiers inside our borders, not as al-q attacked your invader forces miles away from america. If still think that pkk is not a terrorist organization I would say fuck off.

Also usmarine, you blame braddock for finding USA's all acts somehow negative, dont you find all USA's acts somehow positive?
Otto. Why are Kurds - a distinct ethnic and linguistic group - less deserving of their own nation than Turks?
So we should give them a piece of land? Of course they can have their own nation, but we cant reserve some of our territories to them to create a new region. No country can.

And I dont understand why they are disturbed to live under turkish administration, any kurd is equal to a turkish citizen here, we dont force them to to something, Turks and kurds are completely equal. Why they act discriminatory?
What part of the world are Kurds from originally Otto? Have they moved to Turkey from somewhere else like many Jews have done in Israel?

Also, would you mind being ruled by Iraqis or Americans, provided they treat you as equals along with everyone else?

Last edited by Braddock (2008-10-28 08:51:27)

CameronPoe
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Ottomania wrote:

So we should give them a piece of land? Of course they can have their own nation, but we cant reserve some of our territories to them to create a new region. No country can.

And I dont understand why they are disturbed to live under turkish administration, any kurd is equal to a turkish citizen here, we dont force them to to something, Turks and kurds are completely equal. Why they act discriminatory?
Why is the land on which they live and have always lived 'your' nation? Are they supposed to make a nation out of magical thin air? Just because one of the old imperialist Sultans subjugated them under the Ottoman Empire does not mean you are morally right to subjugate them under the rule of a nation they don't want to be ruled by. Why don't they want to be under Turkish administration? Because they're NOT Turkish. Is Kurdish taught in all schools as a joint-first language of the country? Is Kurdish history taught to all Turkish children in school alongside Turkish history? Is their culture respected? It matters not whether you perceive them as enjoying 'equal rights'. Just like the Irish they do not want to be ruled by a foreign power and they do not want their culture diluted by a foreign power. They have every right to fight you to the negotiating table.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-10-28 08:54:40)

Lisik
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Braddock wrote:

Lisik wrote:

OMG... bunch of peaceful AQ dudes were just having a love trip from Afganistan to Iraq throw Syria and these evil Americans came and killed them.  Jeeeeeez. How Evil is that...

Thanks God we have Europe who will prevent this from happening. The bloody Americans must know that killing terrorists its bad!
The US should go into Palestine and take out some of those Jewish settlers for violating International law while they are at it!
Europussy how about instead of ordering USA what to do you will go and do something by yourself?
FatherTed
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Lisik wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Lisik wrote:

OMG... bunch of peaceful AQ dudes were just having a love trip from Afganistan to Iraq throw Syria and these evil Americans came and killed them.  Jeeeeeez. How Evil is that...

Thanks God we have Europe who will prevent this from happening. The bloody Americans must know that killing terrorists its bad!
The US should go into Palestine and take out some of those Jewish settlers for violating International law while they are at it!
Europussy how about instead of ordering USA what to do you will go and do something by yourself?
just lol
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Braddock
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Lisik wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Lisik wrote:

OMG... bunch of peaceful AQ dudes were just having a love trip from Afganistan to Iraq throw Syria and these evil Americans came and killed them.  Jeeeeeez. How Evil is that...

Thanks God we have Europe who will prevent this from happening. The bloody Americans must know that killing terrorists its bad!
The US should go into Palestine and take out some of those Jewish settlers for violating International law while they are at it!
Europussy how about instead of ordering USA what to do you will go and do something by yourself?
How about the US stops interfering in the Middle East altogether and stops unconditionally propping up a country that has about as much regard for human rights as some of the terrorist groups do?

I suppose it's no surprise that an Israeli would be in favour of violating Internationally recognised borders. If Israel hates Europe so much why don't they fuck off back to the Middle Eastern qualification zone for International soccer competitions? Oh, I forgot... nobody likes you back there. You even take part in the Eurovision song contest for fuck's sake, talk about an identity crisis.
Uzique
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Lisik wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Lisik wrote:

OMG... bunch of peaceful AQ dudes were just having a love trip from Afganistan to Iraq throw Syria and these evil Americans came and killed them.  Jeeeeeez. How Evil is that...

Thanks God we have Europe who will prevent this from happening. The bloody Americans must know that killing terrorists its bad!
The US should go into Palestine and take out some of those Jewish settlers for violating International law while they are at it!
Europussy how about instead of ordering USA what to do you will go and do something by yourself?
Lollers, you are America's bitch, without the Yankee doodles you would be nuked and wiped off the map.

So how about you do something yourself? Your entire nation is invertebrate.

Silly rat.

Last edited by Uzique (2008-10-28 09:16:11)

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God Save the Queen
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Uzique wrote:

Lollers, you are Americas bitch
arent you from the UK yourself, lol.  You guys hold our dicks when we piss.

Last edited by God Save the Queen (2008-10-28 09:11:20)

Uzique
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God Save the Queen wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Lollers, you are Americas bitch
arent you from the UK yourself, lol.  You guys hold our dicks when we piss.
I'm talking to the Israeli, your response is pointless.

We support your causes sure, but it's a little different to being under your wing because hence otherwise we would face termination. If America pulled out of the Middle-East and stopped using Israel as a satellite nation and military base, the Israeli's would be fuckered within 5 years- that's all I was saying. But sure, let's have another US versus UK debate, they're always fun... always insightful inspecting your elite posting intelligentsia.
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Lisik
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Uzique, other then showing your anger you did not said anything objective.
M.O.A.B
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Oh god, its turning into another Israel hate thread

/hides in cupboard till its over
usmarine
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So...Brad.  As you can see, the PKK are not terrorists, turkey just wants their land.  so his example is incorrect.  you know, the one you said he was right about.
Mekstizzle
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Lisik wrote:

Uzique, other then showing your anger you did not said anything objective.
What are you talking about, he raised valid points. Nobody is denying the UK is Americas bitch, but at least we'd still exist in the Universe if/when we stopped being their bitch.

GS makes a point though, the amount of times Syria has violated Iraq sovereignty, I don't think they can complain tbh.
JoshP
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Braddock wrote:

You even take part in the Eurovision song contest for fuck's sake, talk about an identity crisis.
i really don't understand this, seriously why the fuck are Israel in eurovision?

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

What are you talking about, he raised valid points. Nobody is denying the UK is Americas bitch, but at least we'd still exist in the Universe if/when we stopped being their bitch.

GS makes a point though, the amount of times Syria has violated Iraq sovereignty, I don't think they can complain tbh.
I agree tbh, and about the US/UK thing, most british people aren't happy about how much we are america's lapdog
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6847|Texas - Bigger than France

JoshP wrote:

Braddock wrote:

You even take part in the Eurovision song contest for fuck's sake, talk about an identity crisis.
i really don't understand this, seriously why the fuck are Israel in eurovision?

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

What are you talking about, he raised valid points. Nobody is denying the UK is Americas bitch, but at least we'd still exist in the Universe if/when we stopped being their bitch.

GS makes a point though, the amount of times Syria has violated Iraq sovereignty, I don't think they can complain tbh.
I agree tbh, and about the US/UK thing, most british people aren't happy about how much we are america's lapdog
tbh how many british people like their own government?
mikkel
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Lisik wrote:

Uzique, other then showing your anger you did not said anything objective.
You mean in reply to your wholly subjective opinion?

CameronPoe wrote:

ATG wrote:

Rather smug of you to assume that our leadership did not consult directly with the leadership of the other nation before we attacked.
Well the Syrian government press releases seem to suggest they didn't.

"If [the US has] any proof of any insurgency, instead of applying the law of the jungle and penetrating, unprovoked, a sovereign country, they should come to the Syrians first and share this information," he [Syria's press attache in London, Jihad Makdissi] said.
His name is actually "Jihad"? Badass.

Last edited by mikkel (2008-10-28 12:56:35)

JoshP
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Pug wrote:

JoshP wrote:

Braddock wrote:

You even take part in the Eurovision song contest for fuck's sake, talk about an identity crisis.
i really don't understand this, seriously why the fuck are Israel in eurovision?

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

What are you talking about, he raised valid points. Nobody is denying the UK is Americas bitch, but at least we'd still exist in the Universe if/when we stopped being their bitch.

GS makes a point though, the amount of times Syria has violated Iraq sovereignty, I don't think they can complain tbh.
I agree tbh, and about the US/UK thing, most british people aren't happy about how much we are america's lapdog
tbh how many british people like their own government?
nobody, yet they still get voted back in

kinda strange really

either that or the people that do like the government don't really get any attention from the media, because "Dave thinks the governement aren't all that bad" won't really sell a newspaper or make someone watch tv

Kinda hard to gauge really

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