BF2S Forums Artist After LSD Dose

Blehm98 wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Blehm98 wrote:

nahp

lol
LSD is quite lethal if you take enough, and enough isn't very much

6-10 hits at once i think is enough to kill a normal human

and as far as i'm aware flashbacks are not caused by crystallized lsd in your spine (BS), but your brain has simply been trained to perceive stimuli in a novel way, and if stimuli align correctly your brain 'flashbacks,' and perceives information differently

You got proof of that?

lol
read up on charles manson
one of his family members almost killed a girl testifying again him with lsd
dun wanna look it up though, someone else can bother if they want

wikipedia wrote:

Generally, the dosage that will produce a threshold psychotropic effect in humans is considered to be 20 to 30µg.[19][3] According to Glass and Henderson's review, black-market LSD is largely iterated though sometimes contaminated by manufacturing by-products. Typical doses in the 1960s ranged from 200 to 1000µg while street samples of the 1970s contained 30 to 300µg. By the 1980s, the amount had reduced to between 100 to 125 µg, lowering more in the 1990s to the 20–80 µg range. (Lower doses, Glass and Henderson found, generally produce fewer bad trips.)[20] Estimates for the lethal dosage (LD50) of LSD range from between 200 µg/kg to more than 1 mg/kg of human body mass, though most sources report that there are no known human cases of such an overdose. Other sources note one report of a suspected fatal overdose of LSD occurring in November 1975 in Kentucky in which there were indications that ~1/3 of a gram (320 mg or 320,000 µg) had been injected intravenously, i.e., over 3,000 more typical oral doses of ~100 µg had been injected.[21][22] Experiments with LSD were also done on animals; in 1962, an elephant named Tusko died shortly after being injected with 297 mg, but whether the LSD was the cause of his death is controversial.

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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

A kid died this week in a lake by my house after taking acid - he went under and never came back up.  Shame really, 16 years old and a possible bright future.

http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/teenage … -margarita

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Lollers, Wikipedia as 'research'.

Any self-respecting area of 'research', or implied researcher would recognise that Wikipedia is about as reliable as a chocolate teapot.

Until the day the leading medical experts moderate and edit Wiki articles, I'll treat it just as another place for perpuating recurrent rumours - urban myths and the like.

Wikipedia is as reliable as any other source. And that is a proven 'fact' - the accuracy of Wikipedia was compared to (IIRC) the Encyclopaedia Britannica by a team of specialists in their areas - Wikipedia was shown to be more accurate.

Last edited by Uzique (2008-10-25 21:05:48)

Uzique wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Lollers, Wikipedia as 'research'.

Any self-respecting area of 'research', or implied researcher would recognise that Wikipedia is about as reliable as a chocolate teapot.

Until the day the leading medical experts moderate and edit Wiki articles, I'll treat it just as another place for perpuating recurrent rumours - urban myths and the like.

Wikipedia is as reliable as any other source. And that is a proven 'fact' - the accuracy of Wikipedia was compared to (IIRC) the Encyclopaedia Britannica by a team of specialists in their areas - Wikipedia was shown to be more accurate.

So why is Wikipedia such a faux pas in academia?

You're saying that the generalisations and the rumours that are typed up onto Wikipedia are more reliable and informative than a medical journal or study on the same area? Silly argument really .

You'll die if you consume too much acid, just as you'll die from over-consumption of anything. LSD is the most potent chemical substance ever synthesized though, so obviously by 'over-consumption' I don't mean "Drink three litres". It's safe to say a heroin-sized dose of LSD would put you in a bad place, mentally and physically.

Dr Susan Blackmore wrote:

There is no known lethal dose of LSD

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-10-25 21:18:24)

Uzique wrote:

Sorry, you edited in the Nature link after your initial post (which I originally responded to)- I then followed up with a quick re-edit that you clearly didn't see either because you were too busy typing a response :p. Got to love how Forums work sometimes!

I don't know whether a 'normal' LSD dose can kill. How do you define a 'normal' dose when it's entirely relative to the person's own physical tolerances and experience with hallucenogens. And do you define 'kill' as an overdose or a chemical intoxication or a causationary kill? There's a lot of ways to be killed whilst on an acid trip, a 'trip' could hypothetically kill you, sure. As for this whole contentious grey-subject of a 'normal' drugs dose: I'm just not sure that even exists.

Erowid wrote:

LSD is almost entirely metabolized within a day after ingestion. Since the half-life of LSD is only a few hours, only a very small amount of LSD remains even at the end of the trip, and this is excreted in the urine. All traces are undetectable after several days and are certainly gone entirely within a couple of weeks. As detection technology improves and thresholds drop (it is now possible to detect picograms reliably), the time that incredibly small amounts of it could be detected will extend.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2008-10-25 21:42:33)

thepilot91 wrote:

reminds me of:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z47iJsSiOIc 

Uzique wrote:

Lollers, Wikipedia as 'research'.

Any self-respecting area of 'research', or implied researcher would recognise that Wikipedia is about as reliable as a chocolate teapot.

Until the day the leading medical experts moderate and edit Wiki articles, I'll treat it just as another place for perpuating recurrent rumours - urban myths and the like.