holy shit! that wasnt on purposeCameronPoe wrote:
"You may not karma the same person in a 24 hour period."God Save the Queen wrote:
the only 72 virgins that exist are the ones that post in this forum.
roflmao
PS That was the 72nd post ... ... Allah has entered the forum ...
Break out the suicide vest.God Save the Queen wrote:
holy shit! that wasnt on purposeCameronPoe wrote:
"You may not karma the same person in a 24 hour period."God Save the Queen wrote:
the only 72 virgins that exist are the ones that post in this forum.
roflmao
PS That was the 72nd post ... ... Allah has entered the forum ...
no, he's a pilotMGS3_GrayFox wrote:
What about the bomber pilot that drops a 500 pound bomb on a building and the collateral damage kills civilians? Is he a soldier?SgtHeihn wrote:
MGS3: The main thing is, is that the guy who believes in 72 virgins is strapping a bomb to himself and detonating it in a market place. That is not a solider.
Still, he is regarded as a hero when he is clearly not one (same as some army soldiers).God Save the Queen wrote:
no, he's a pilotMGS3_GrayFox wrote:
What about the bomber pilot that drops a 500 pound bomb on a building and the collateral damage kills civilians? Is he a soldier?SgtHeihn wrote:
MGS3: The main thing is, is that the guy who believes in 72 virgins is strapping a bomb to himself and detonating it in a market place. That is not a solider.
What I meant by soldier was the common characteristic between pilots, marines, soldiers, etc. Political tools.
soldiers are far superior than pilots, marines and sailors. especially marines
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That explains why more soldiers are killed compared to pilots, marines and sailors.God Save the Queen wrote:
soldiers are far superior than pilots, marines and sailors.
now thats an asshole thing to say. but to answer it, yes, because the US Army is far more involved in the nations military operations than all of the other branches.MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
That explains why more soldiers are killed compared to pilots, marines and sailors.God Save the Queen wrote:
soldiers are far superior than pilots, marines and sailors.
It stings doesn't it? But good reply, at least you kept it cool.God Save the Queen wrote:
now thats an asshole thing to say. but to answer it, yes, because the US Army is far more involved in the nations military operations than all of the other branches.MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
That explains why more soldiers are killed compared to pilots, marines and sailors.God Save the Queen wrote:
soldiers are far superior than pilots, marines and sailors.
nevermind the fact that the US Army has 200,000 more members than any branch
but don't let common sense get in your way
but don't let common sense get in your way
i dont know, how retarded is it, MGS?MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
I bet the majority of soldiers in the US army believe in God, how retarded is that?
i guess its only retarded when christians have beliefsMGS3_GrayFox wrote:
And how does that make you different to those that blow themselves up to get 72 virgins? Maybe their morals may not be as yours, but they have some.
hypocrisy is fun!
I shouldnt have. no stinging. You are talking to someone who has had to face the corpses of fellow soldiers. You should feel like an asshole.MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
It stings doesn't it? But good reply, at least you kept it cool.God Save the Queen wrote:
now thats an asshole thing to say. but to answer it, yes, because the US Army is far more involved in the nations military operations than all of the other branches.MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
That explains why more soldiers are killed compared to pilots, marines and sailors.
Like how it just went away.God Save the Queen wrote:
I shouldnt have. no stinging. You are talking to someone who has had to face the corpses of fellow soldiers. You should feel like an asshole.MGS3_GrayFox wrote:
It stings doesn't it? But good reply, at least you kept it cool.God Save the Queen wrote:
now thats an asshole thing to say. but to answer it, yes, because the US Army is far more involved in the nations military operations than all of the other branches.
Aside from the obvious differences- motivation, uniform, beliefs, etc... falls the real difference. Actions on the objective. When a soldier does his job, he does so with professionalism, and per his rules of engagment. When an enemy combatant is captured, he is searched, tagged, and processed as an Enemy Prisoner of War(EPW). Then he's fed three times a day, and given a place to sleep. When a terrorist or insurgent captures an enemy combatant(soldier carrying a Geneva Conventions ID), he is videotaped, beheaded with a rusty saw, and his body is dumped.
I'm not saying this happens 100% of the time. Soldiers disobey orders, violate the ROE, and act like asshats. But the vast majority are professional in carrying out their assigned tasks. Unfortunatley, shit like Abu Ghraib happens, and makes every soldier look bad.
Personally, I've never taken a rusty e-tool and hacked someones head off, but that's just me.
I'm not saying this happens 100% of the time. Soldiers disobey orders, violate the ROE, and act like asshats. But the vast majority are professional in carrying out their assigned tasks. Unfortunatley, shit like Abu Ghraib happens, and makes every soldier look bad.
Personally, I've never taken a rusty e-tool and hacked someones head off, but that's just me.
Ah. So YOU'RE the one who watched it.Braddock wrote:
I was watching In The Valley Of Elah last nightTheAussieReaper wrote:
Best analogy for this would be the old saying -
One mans terrorist, is another mans freedom fighter.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
I thought that movie was about Scientology......FEOS wrote:
Ah. So YOU'RE the one who watched it.Braddock wrote:
I was watching In The Valley Of Elah last nightTheAussieReaper wrote:
Best analogy for this would be the old saying -
One mans terrorist, is another mans freedom fighter.
We'll have to ask Braddock...he's the only one who has seen it. I honestly think Gigli did better...SgtHeihn wrote:
I thought that movie was about Scientology......FEOS wrote:
Ah. So YOU'RE the one who watched it.Braddock wrote:
I was watching In The Valley Of Elah last night
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Thats not Sun-Tzu. Not the Sun-Tzu I read about.CameronPoe wrote:
That is the goal of Sun-Tzu's Taoist-influenced teachings: prepare for all eventualities, appear formless to your enemies, engage in espionage and counter-espionage, never engage in battle if there is any chance of losing, always retreat from battle under a variety of unfavourable circumstances. First and foremost, take measures to make sure war never occurs.God Save the Queen wrote:
if our species was really prepared for that, there would be no use for guns or door locksCameronPoe wrote:
Sun-Tzu realised in prehistory that engaging in warfare should, as far as is possible, always be avoided/prevented.
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle, but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -Sun TzuAjax_the_Great1 wrote:
Thats not Sun-Tzu. Not the Sun-Tzu I read about.CameronPoe wrote:
That is the goal of Sun-Tzu's Taoist-influenced teachings: prepare for all eventualities, appear formless to your enemies, engage in espionage and counter-espionage, never engage in battle if there is any chance of losing, always retreat from battle under a variety of unfavourable circumstances. First and foremost, take measures to make sure war never occurs.God Save the Queen wrote:
if our species was really prepared for that, there would be no use for guns or door locks
pretty much spot on with everything i have learned about him.
i have read three seperate translations of the art of war, and that is a resounding theme in all three versions.
Parker: I don't think Sun Tzu had a tattoo of a battleship on his arm.
Meant more along the lines "never engage an enemy if their is any chance of losing". Theres always a chance you can lose.Parker wrote:
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle, but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -Sun TzuAjax_the_Great1 wrote:
Thats not Sun-Tzu. Not the Sun-Tzu I read about.CameronPoe wrote:
That is the goal of Sun-Tzu's Taoist-influenced teachings: prepare for all eventualities, appear formless to your enemies, engage in espionage and counter-espionage, never engage in battle if there is any chance of losing, always retreat from battle under a variety of unfavourable circumstances. First and foremost, take measures to make sure war never occurs.
pretty much spot on with everything i have learned about him.
i have read three seperate translations of the art of war, and that is a resounding theme in all three versions.
I also don't remember the "avoid war at all costs part" but I'd have to get back to you on that. Been a few years since I last read it.
The version I have is by Ralph Sawyer.
He had an "I love Mum" tattoo instead.SgtHeihn wrote:
Parker: I don't think Sun Tzu had a tattoo of a battleship on his arm.
ugh...now i might have to go blow the dust off my copies...Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Meant more along the lines "never engage an enemy if their is any chance of losing". Theres always a chance you can lose.Parker wrote:
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle, but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -Sun TzuAjax_the_Great1 wrote:
Thats not Sun-Tzu. Not the Sun-Tzu I read about.
pretty much spot on with everything i have learned about him.
i have read three seperate translations of the art of war, and that is a resounding theme in all three versions.
I also don't remember the "avoid war at all costs part" but I'd have to get back to you on that. Been a few years since I last read it.
The version I have is by Ralph Sawyer.
im more of fan of Von Clausewitz anyway...easier for me to relate to.
I can't imagine the translations being very different because its such a simple read. I like my version because it begins with a historical introduction.Parker wrote:
ugh...now i might have to go blow the dust off my copies...Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
Meant more along the lines "never engage an enemy if their is any chance of losing". Theres always a chance you can lose.Parker wrote:
"Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle, but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting." -Sun Tzu
pretty much spot on with everything i have learned about him.
i have read three seperate translations of the art of war, and that is a resounding theme in all three versions.
I also don't remember the "avoid war at all costs part" but I'd have to get back to you on that. Been a few years since I last read it.
The version I have is by Ralph Sawyer.
im more of fan of Von Clausewitz anyway...easier for me to relate to.
Plus it looks cool on a bookshelf.
Actually it said "#23 Kung Pao Chicken"TheAussieReaper wrote:
He had an "I love Mum" tattoo instead.SgtHeihn wrote:
Parker: I don't think Sun Tzu had a tattoo of a battleship on his arm.
True fact.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Exactly, what would have happened if David had fought Goliath in a proper stand up battle instead of using his slingshot on him? He'd have got raped, that's what!CameronPoe wrote:
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree here. I am a firm advocate of the use of guerilla warfare by the weak and oppressed when the cause is just as it is the only manner in which they could ever possibly have a chance of succeeding against a vastly more powerful aggressor. 'War' and 'Laws' don't really seem to mesh for me, because when the shit hits the fan everyone breaks them and the victors get off scot free (e.g., Dresden firebombing).God Save the Queen wrote:
by using the laws standards, yes. So is firebombing large civilian populations.