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Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:


Yes.

I think it will suck.

You think it will be good.

Therefore when YOU look to buy, you will care more about the multiplayer with friends than I will. Therefore you would choose to go with the system that would give you a better multiplayer experience.

The only contradiction so far is saying the 360 will give you the better experience AND The PC will give you the better experience.
Where exactly do I say I think it's going to be good?

I think it LOOKS good, but I can't say whether it's GOING to be good or not.
Where are you going with this?

You keep trying to bring me into this.

How I feel about MP should have very little to do with your choice of which system to buy it on.

And I can't say whether the MP will be good or not either, nobody can.
Where are YOU going with this? It should have been a simple "PC, because.." or "360, because.." and you turned it into so much more. Docta seemed to do so just fine.
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Poseidon wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Well, fuck then.

I STILL don't know whether to get it for PC or 360. I think 360 might give me a better gaming experience, but the PC'll give me better graphics.

Fucking hell..
How will the 360 give you a better experience if you have worse graphics, and worse controls?
Graphics won't be substantially less...everything I've read from the developers has been that the graphics will be pretty equal aside from resolutions.

Plus, as I just said, I'm tending to prefer a controller to a M/KB at this point, especially for FPS's. It's a matter of opinion, not fact, that M/KB is better.

Hmm, Miggle's turned this thread into a huge argument. I asked a simple question and I get jumped on for it. Go figure.
But the M&KB is way faster and more precises than the controller.

Look at the videos where the guy is on the console, his gun is all over the place. The ones where he's on the PC his gun is where it ought to be.

Also the PC version will have mods.

FPS games are just in general worse on the consoles than on PCs. And if there not worse then they're exactly the same.

And like you said, your PC is good enough that you'll get better graphics on the PC.
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Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


Where exactly do I say I think it's going to be good?

I think it LOOKS good, but I can't say whether it's GOING to be good or not.
Where are you going with this?

You keep trying to bring me into this.

How I feel about MP should have very little to do with your choice of which system to buy it on.

And I can't say whether the MP will be good or not either, nobody can.
Where are YOU going with this? It should have been a simple "PC, because.." or "360, because.." and you turned it into so much more. Docta seemed to do so just fine.
lol.

I'm not going to force my beliefs on you. Every time I do that I get labeled a troll.

I think you should go with the better experience for you. You've identified that as the 360, or the PC, or I really have no idea. I've been saying that the better experience would probably be the one with more friends on it, when you said that was the 360 I ended it.

Miggle wrote:

K, get it on 360 if you prefer the controls and your RL freinds.
But you weren't done. You had to attack my reading

Poseidon wrote:

What I say is not hard to understand. Try spending a little more than 3 seconds reading what I write. It might help you in your arguments.
Which I then defended.

Miggle wrote:

I have no idea how my personal feelings about the multiplayer got into a discussion about how many friends you had getting it for the various systems.

I have no idea how you can say It's my fault for misreading when you said 2 completely contradictory things...
You're the one trolling, You're the one making personal attacks.
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Miggle wrote:

lol.

I'm not going to force my beliefs on you. Every time I do that I get labeled a troll.

I think you should go with the better experience for you. You've identified that as the 360, or the PC, or I really have no idea. I've been saying that the better experience would probably be the one with more friends on it, when you said that was the 360 I ended it.
Yes, why SHOULD you force your beliefs on me? And yes, you ARE a troll. There's really no denying that. Especially with your barrage of "omg, i jerk it to SS2 all night long" posts in the past week.

But you weren't done. You had to attack my reading
I love how you left out the other part of your post which insinuates I said two different things, which I didn't. You simply failed to read correctly.

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood this.
You're the one trolling, You're the one making personal attacks.
Really? I came into this thread trying to start an argument, just like you ALWAYS do? I go into threads trying to inject my personal, biased opinion? That's news to me!

I asked a question, you gave me flak for it for no apparent reason.

Only one trolling is you. As usual.

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

But the M&KB is way faster and more precises than the controller.

Look at the videos where the guy is on the console, his gun is all over the place. The ones where he's on the PC his gun is where it ought to be.

Also the PC version will have mods.

FPS games are just in general worse on the consoles than on PCs. And if there not worse then they're exactly the same.

And like you said, your PC is good enough that you'll get better graphics on the PC.
I know it is.

I'm generally pretty good with aiming with a controller. He might not be, but I am.

I'm not really into mods, but if any good ones come out, we'll see.

What's wrong with being the same?

I'll probably end up sticking with the PC, I just wanted some advice from people. Apparentely for some, that's too hard to ask. Thanks though, Docta. Glad there's one person who's willing to actually help.

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Miggle
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Poseidon wrote:

Yes, you ARE a troll. There's really no denying that.
Um, yes there is.

I am not a troll, I come into threads and say the same things a lot of people do, I rarely take an argument about games to the personal level. I disagree with you, so you demonize me, and I'm getting pretty sick of it.

Poseidon wrote:

Especially with your barrage of "omg, i jerk it to SS2 all night long" posts in the past week.
Hmmm, could you get me a link to this quote?

I don't get what's wrong with comparing future games to previous ones. System Shock 2 is my favorite game ever. If 10 years later they're still missing some of the best parts of SS2 then there's obviously something wrong. Graphics and hype don't make the game, they just make the game sell.

Poseidon wrote:

But you weren't done. You had to attack my reading
I love how you left out the other part of your post which insinuates I said two different things, which I didn't. You simply failed to read correctly.

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood this.
What when you DO say 2 different things?
If you'd bother to read, you'd realize that I was going to get it (and still have it reserved) for the PC. It's what will give me a BETTER EXPERIENCE.
I think 360 might give me a better gaming experience

Poseidon wrote:

You're the one trolling, You're the one making personal attacks.
Really? I came into this thread trying to start an argument, just like you ALWAYS do? That's news to me!
Yeah, I always come in with the intention to start an argument...

And you're always the nicest guy ever...

Poseidon wrote:

I'll probably end up sticking with the PC, I just wanted some advice from people. Apparentely for some, that's too hard to ask. Thanks though, Docta. Glad there's one person who's willing to actually help.
This is just funny.

Strangelove does exactly what you always complain about when I do it, and you thank him.

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Miggle wrote:

Um, yes there is.

I am not a troll, I come into threads and say the same things a lot of people do, I rarely take an argument about games to the personal level. I disagree with you, so you demonize me, and I'm getting pretty sick of it.
Yes, you are. You do this ALL THE TIME. I don't care if someone disagrees with me. That's fine. It's the condescending and troll-like ways that you do it, and the fact that every thread about every game you don't like, you have to throw in some sarcastic comment or push your opinion into people's eyes until they get pissed off about it. And apparentely, I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Hmmm, could you get me a link to this quote?

I don't get what's wrong with comparing future games to previous ones. System Shock 2 is my favorite game ever. If 10 years later they're still missing some of the best parts of SS2 then there's obviously sometyhing wrong. Graphics and hype don't make the game, they just make the game sell.
Uh, how about the Dead Space thread which I had to delete because of your incessant whining about how it looks like SS2, and bringing the name of SS2 up about every other post you made? I don't care if you like it. That's wonderful. And you're free to enjoy it and say you do too. However, coming into a thread and saying repeatedly that the game is just "recycled" or whatever other rubbish you were posting to no extent is infact the damn near definition of trolling. You could have easily said "Looks okay, but I don't think it'll beat SS2 for me". You could have very easily done that, said it once, and been done with it. I'd have no problem with that. But you had to go on...and on...and on...

Even Aussie noticed it, so again, I'm not alone.

What when you DO say 2 different things?
Holy fucking shit, do you still not get it? I figured I'd posted it in the easiest way possible, but that's not easy enough for you. It's what platform will give me the best experience.

I guess I overestimated your comprehension skills greatly...since no matter what I say, you still don't get it.

Yeah, I always come in with the intention to start an argument...

And you're always the nicest guy ever...
Just about, yeah.

No, but I contribute to threads and can respectfully disagree with people or not like a game without injecting my opinion into threads about said game where people are talking about it. Can't say the same for you.

This is just funny.

Strangelove does exactly what you always complain about when I do it, and you thank him.
The way Docta said it was in a better tone, and he simply disagreed with me. You just jumped on me, insinuated I said 2 different things which I didn't, and then continued on your typical rant about how "zomg, PC r btter!!!1" as you've done so pointlessly in the past in Xfire conversations.
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lol

gtfback to talkin and postin far cry 2 shit mates
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SamTheMan:D wrote:

lol

gtfback to talkin and postin far cry 2 shit mates
Works for me!



lol
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rofl
Miggle
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Poseidon wrote:

Yes, you are. You do this ALL THE TIME. I don't care if someone disagrees with me. That's fine. It's the condescending and troll-like ways that you do it, and the fact that every thread about every game you don't like, you have to throw in some sarcastic comment or push your opinion into people's eyes until they get pissed off about it. And apparentely, I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Oh thanks for bringing that post up.

That's one of the many times I've said that consoles aren't as good at FPS's as PC.

The same thing you just thanked Strangelove for saying.

I'm not the one being condescending, I'm not the one calling names.

I try to keep the argument about the game, but when you start losing you make it about me, EVERY TIME.

Poseidon wrote:

Uh, how about the Dead Space thread which I had to delete because of your incessant whining about how it looks like SS2, and bringing the name of SS2 up about every other post you made? I don't care if you like it. That's wonderful. And you're free to enjoy it and say you do too. However, coming into a thread and saying repeatedly that the game is just "recycled" or whatever other rubbish you were posting to no extent is infact the damn near definition of trolling. You could have easily said "Looks okay, but I don't think it'll beat SS2 for me". You could have very easily done that, said it once, and been done with it. I'd have no problem with that. But you had to go on...and on...and on...

Even Aussie noticed it, so again, I'm not alone.
Of course I'm going to compare dead space to SS2, they're both Space Horror games with parasitic alien enemies. What you're not saying is that I said Dead Space looked good, which I think it does. It takes a lot from SS2, which is a good thing.

Poseidon wrote:

Holy fucking shit, do you still not get it? I figured I'd posted it in the easiest way possible, but that's not easy enough for you. It's what platform will give me the best experience.

I guess I overestimated your comprehension skills greatly...since no matter what I say, you still don't get it.
Ok, maybe I overestimated your writing skills because it says pretty clearly "I preordered it for pc. It's what will give me the best experience"

Poseidon wrote:

The way Docta said it was in a better tone, and he simply disagreed with me. You just jumped on me, insinuated I said 2 different things which I didn't, and then continued on your typical rant about how "zomg, PC r btter!!!1" as you've done so pointlessly in the past in Xfire conversations.
lol, find me the post where I say PC is better here. If anything, I say to get it on 360.

And don't talk about jumping on people or tone because throughout this thread you have attacked my reading and called me a troll.
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Miggle wrote:

Oh thanks for bringing that post up.

That's one of the many times I've said that consoles aren't as good at FPS's as PC.

The same thing you just thanked Strangelove for saying.

I'm not the one being condescending, I'm not the one calling names.
You're welcome.

I thanked Strangelove for saying it because he did it in a normal, non-condescending tone. You didn't.

Of course I'm going to compare dead space to SS2, they're both Space Horror games with parasitic alien enemies. What you're not saying is that I said Dead Space looked good, which I think it does. It takes a lot from SS2, which is a good thing.
The issue was not that, that's why I didn't bring it up. The issue was you bringing up SS2 about every other post in that thread.

Ok, maybe I overestimated your writing skills because it says pretty clearly "I preordered it for pc. It's what will give me the best experience"
No, you clearly just severely lack text comprehension. I've tried to spell it out for you as easy as I can, but nothing's working. It's like arguing evolution with a bible thumper.

Let's divulge, shall we?

I wrote:

I have a good enough computer. If you'd bother to read, you'd realize that I was going to get it (and still have it reserved) for the PC. It's what will give me a BETTER EXPERIENCE.
I say "It's what will give me a better experience" after mentioning the 360 earlier. It's like saying "I can't decide if I'm gonna watch the Jets or Giants, but I'll probably end up watching the Jets. It's just what'll give me a more enjoyable time in watching that I'll go for."

Yet still, I'm going to damn near guarantee that you still won't understand what I said.

lol, find me the post where I say PC is better here. If anything, I say to get it on 360.

And don't talk about jumping on people or tone because throughout this thread you have attacked my reading and called me a troll.
Yes, because you fail to understand what I read, and there's really no point in debating like a civil person with you. I've tried, but the simple fact of that matter is that you're nothing but an internet troll looking for attention and looking to inject his opinion as much as he can where ever you see fit. I've seen it, others have seen it...but you think you're innocent.

The only reason I'm talking to you in the way I am is in response. I'm not going to respond to you in a nice tone because simply put, after the way you act in this forum, you don't deserve to be talked to like a civil person.

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Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Oh thanks for bringing that post up.

That's one of the many times I've said that consoles aren't as good at FPS's as PC.

The same thing you just thanked Strangelove for saying.

I'm not the one being condescending, I'm not the one calling names.
You're welcome.

I thanked Strangelove for saying it because he did it in a normal, non-condescending tone. You didn't.

Miggle wrote:

Well you're not going to find much for the PS3

those three (FPS, RTS, and RPG) are far better on PC and other than FPS they're practically non-existent on consoles
Hmmm, so condescending.

Strangelove wrote:

FPS games are just in general worse on the consoles than on PCs.

Poseidon wrote:

Of course I'm going to compare dead space to SS2, they're both Space Horror games with parasitic alien enemies. What you're not saying is that I said Dead Space looked good, which I think it does. It takes a lot from SS2, which is a good thing.
The issue was not that, that's why I didn't bring it up. The issue was you bringing up SS2 about every other post in that thread.
Hmm, when I defended SS2 yes, I was talking about SS2.

Poseidon wrote:

Ok, maybe I overestimated your writing skills because it says pretty clearly "I preordered it for pc. It's what will give me the best experience"
No, you clearly just severely lack text comprehension. I've tried to spell it out for you as easy as I can, but nothing's working. It's like arguing evolution with a bible thumper.

Let's divulge, shall we?

I wrote:

I have a good enough computer. If you'd bother to read, you'd realize that I was going to get it (and still have it reserved) for the PC. It's what will give me a BETTER EXPERIENCE.
I say "It's what will give me a better experience" after mentioning the 360 earlier. It's like saying "I can't decide if I'm gonna watch the Jets or Giants, but I'll probably end up watching the Jets. It's just what'll give me a more enjoyable time in watching that I'll go for."

Yet still, I'm going to damn near guarantee that you still won't understand what I said.
But that's not what you said.

You said you were buying Far Cry for PC, making PC the subject, you then use the word "it" which refers to the subject, so what that sentect means is The PC will give me the better experience.

lol, find me the post where I say PC is better here. If anything, I say to get it on 360.

And don't talk about jumping on people or tone because throughout this thread you have attacked my reading and called me a troll.

Poseidon wrote:

Yes, because you fail to understand what I read, and there's really no point in debating like a civil person with you. I've tried, but the simple fact of that matter is that you're nothing but an internet troll looking for attention and looking to inject his opinion as much as he can where ever you see fit. I've seen it, others have seen it...but you think you're innocent.

The only reason I'm talking to you in the way I am is in response. I'm not going to respond to you in a nice tone because simply put, after the way you act in this forum, you don't deserve to be talked to like a civil person.
No point in having a civil debate with me?

Like the civil debates I try to have with you?

There's no point because you tend to lose. You tend to contradict yourself, you tend to make arguments that don't make sense, and when I point that out, you call me a troll.

There's no point in having a civil debate with you, and yet I still try.

How about we both agree to be civil, does that sound good to you?

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You said you were buying it for PC, making PC the subject, you then use the word "it" which refers to the subject, so what that sentect means is The PC will give me the better experience.
Oh lord, now you're trying to profess english on me.

Not my fault if you couldn't understand. Don't try to twist it as if I'm wrong. Again,...I've tried to spell it out as easy as I could for you, but you still don't get it. -shrugs-

No point in having a civil debate with me?

Like the civil debates I try to have with you?

There's no point because you tend to lose. You tend to contradict yourself, you tend to make arguments that don't make sense, and when I point that out, you call me a troll.

There's no point in having a civil debate with you, and yet I still try.

How about we both agree to be civil, does that sound good to you?
I tend to lose? Rofl. You know, the person who tends to say "you're losing" is actually the person who is indeed scared they're losing themselves. Keep trying to twist it in your favor though, it's very entertaining to watch.

As I've stated to you many, many times before, I don't call people a troll unless it's warranted. And no, there shouldn't even have to BE a debate. This is OTHER TITLES ffs.

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Poseidon wrote:

You said you were buying it for PC, making PC the subject, you then use the word "it" which refers to the subject, so what that sentect means is The PC will give me the better experience.
Oh lord, now you're trying to profess english on me.

Not my fault if you couldn't understand. Don't try to twist it as if I'm wrong. Again,...I've tried to spell it out as easy as I could for you, but you still don't get it. -shrugs-
Can you at least admit that it was a poorly written sentence?

That the reason I misunderstood isn't because I am stupid?

Poseidon wrote:

No point in having a civil debate with me?

Like the civil debates I try to have with you?

There's no point because you tend to lose. You tend to contradict yourself, you tend to make arguments that don't make sense, and when I point that out, you call me a troll.

There's no point in having a civil debate with you, and yet I still try.

How about we both agree to be civil, does that sound good to you?
I tend to lose? Rofl. You know, the person who tends to say "you're losing" is actually the person who is indeed scared themselves. Keep trying to twist it in your favor though, it's very entertaining to watch.

As I've stated to you many, many times before, I don't call people a troll unless it's warranted. And no, there shouldn't even have to BE a debate. This is OTHER TITLES ffs.
lol, I've never seen a legitimate debate where somebody tells the other person "you are losing this debate" that's one of the ways you try to make it seem less like you're losing.

You've stopped doing that lately though because I called you out on it.

There is plenty of reason to debate games, If we have different ideas about it, we should lets those out, people reading can see them and decide for themselves, they can change opinions.

How about we both agree to be civil, does that sound good to you?
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Miggle wrote:

Can you at least admit that it was a poorly written sentence?

That the reason I misunderstood isn't because I am stupid?
I suppose it was a little bit, but I even explained it to you and you still didn't understand it. If I had said it over a mic or something, you'd have known what I was talking about.

lol, I've never seen a legitimate debate where somebody tells the other person "you are losing this debate" that's one of the ways you try to make it seem less like you're losing.
Yes, that'd be what I just said..

You've stopped doing that lately though because I called you out on it.
I don't remember ever doing that...and even if you did find a post of mine which did do that, it'd be hypocritical because you just did the same.

There is plenty of reason to debate games, If we have different ideas about it, we should lets those out, people reading can see them and decide for themselves, they can change opinions.
I can discuss games with other people fine. It's you who I have the problem with because of the way you act in threads about games you don't like. Knock that shit off and maybe.

How about we both agree to be civil, does that sound good to you?
See above.
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watchin vids now
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Act 1? I don't wanna be spoiled or anything...
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Poseidon wrote:

Act 1? I don't wanna be spoiled or anything...
no its just the first mission, teaching you how to recon a camp and when you meet your first buddy

however the player is a fucking retard and kills everyone before doing the recon

no cutscenes or plot details
i think

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steam wrote:

PC Gamer has given Far Cry 2 an "Editor's Choice" rating in their upcoming holiday issue. Their reviewer says "Far Cry 2 hasn’t just exceeded my expectations, it’s blown them away." It's available for pre-purchase now in the Steam store for a $5 discount.
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Can anyone explain what is so special about this game? It's got great reviews and a bunch of hype, but in every video I watch, the graphics look mediocre and the gameplay looks basic. It doesn't look any better than BF2. Why is it such a big deal?
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your insane

watch the immersion video
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Can anyone explain what is so special about this game? It's got great reviews and a bunch of hype, but in every video I watch, the graphics look mediocre and the gameplay looks basic. It doesn't look any better than BF2. Why is it such a big deal?
Big focus on immersion, non-linear gameplay and dynamic story.

Read the front page on trackr for a moar in depth explaination
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