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2008-10-17 02:45:26
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6716|'Murka

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

lol dubai
stupid fucking place

"Come to our beautiful beaches and hotels! Nevermind the slave workers, the alcohol ban, and the inability to show any affection for your significant other except in your hotel room!"
No alcohol ban in Dubai.
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2008-10-17 04:14:10
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6595|Éire

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

lol dubai
stupid fucking place

"Come to our beautiful beaches and hotels! Nevermind the slave workers, the alcohol ban, and the inability to show any affection for your significant other except in your hotel room!"
You're pretty much proving my point mate. It's their society, they can have whatever rules they want. If you don't like them, stay at home. The same goes for Muslims settling in the West... if you don't like Western ways, stay in an Islamic country.

And as FEOS already said, there is no alcohol ban. The couple were drunk when they got caught 'in flagrante'. There are restrictions on alcohol consumption, but no ban.

Last edited by Braddock (2008-10-17 04:15:36)

2008-10-17 07:34:53
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,060|7077|PNW

Braddock wrote:

It's their society, they can have whatever rules they want.
Within reason...right?
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2008-10-17 07:37:18
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6952

Braddock wrote:

My point is that you get douchebags in every country who think that foreign societies should submit to them and their way of life rather than the other way around... just observe any chav English family on holiday in the Mediterranean, "what do mean there's no chips for the kids, I came 'ere on a plane you cunt".
You sound like someone who would really hate living in California.

Damn mexicans with their spanish language over all my stuff.
2008-10-17 08:00:19
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6595|Éire

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

My point is that you get douchebags in every country who think that foreign societies should submit to them and their way of life rather than the other way around... just observe any chav English family on holiday in the Mediterranean, "what do mean there's no chips for the kids, I came 'ere on a plane you cunt".
You sound like someone who would really hate living in California.

Damn mexicans with their spanish language over all my stuff.
Well I hear what you're saying but didn't they... like... once own California, no?
2008-10-17 08:13:48
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6952

Braddock wrote:

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Braddock wrote:

My point is that you get douchebags in every country who think that foreign societies should submit to them and their way of life rather than the other way around... just observe any chav English family on holiday in the Mediterranean, "what do mean there's no chips for the kids, I came 'ere on a plane you cunt".
You sound like someone who would really hate living in California.

Damn mexicans with their spanish language over all my stuff.
Well I hear what you're saying but didn't they... like... once own California, no?
Well, Native Americans once owned where I live, Dakota county. Should the world be handed back to everybody who was there first?
2008-10-17 19:38:16
twiistaaa
Member
+87|6974|mexico

Braddock wrote:

That's the often heard claim from the usual suspects on these boards and further afield. "Muslims come over to our countries and expect to live by their own laws and values even though they're not compatible with our way of life" and so on and so on.

Well check out these two Westerners in Dubai who were arrested for having sex in public on a beach.

The door swings both ways my friends.
since when is having sex on a public beach apart of "their own laws and values" or any westerners? it is usually prohibited in western countries, it has nothing to do with them trying to impose their values on dubai, they simply broke the law which is also a law in their own country.
2008-10-18 00:46:28
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6454|'straya

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:


To that I agree completely. However, you made the comparison to Islam in our society. To that I maintain that the people on the beach were not trying to change society. They were having sex. Islam in the UK America or anywhere else IS trying to change that society.
No lowing, only some of them are... and they can be compared to the ignorant, brash tourists on holiday demanding that the society they are a guest in accommodate them rather than the other way around.

Stop bundling huge groups of people in together lowing. For a guy who constantly bangs on about 'the individual' it comes across as incredibly hypocritical.
No it does not, since  Iam not speaking of the indivivual. ISLAM and its teachings do not adhere to western morality, equality, and tolerance. Our own constitution of freedoms tolerance and rights has been used against, us to push forward an agenda by this culture and religion that does not mirror those qualities. This is done in the form of PC.


Now, I know you do not agree with that but there is no comparison between 2 people having sex on the beach and an agenda to modify society.
If ISLAM doesn not adhere to western morality... why do u have to troll foreign media outlets to find sensationalist stories about appeasement? by ur logic EVERY muslim must be suing the government etc... when really its probably around 0.1% of the muslim population in the respective countries
2008-10-18 04:42:30
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6956|USA

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing wrote:

Braddock wrote:


No lowing, only some of them are... and they can be compared to the ignorant, brash tourists on holiday demanding that the society they are a guest in accommodate them rather than the other way around.

Stop bundling huge groups of people in together lowing. For a guy who constantly bangs on about 'the individual' it comes across as incredibly hypocritical.
No it does not, since  Iam not speaking of the indivivual. ISLAM and its teachings do not adhere to western morality, equality, and tolerance. Our own constitution of freedoms tolerance and rights has been used against, us to push forward an agenda by this culture and religion that does not mirror those qualities. This is done in the form of PC.


Now, I know you do not agree with that but there is no comparison between 2 people having sex on the beach and an agenda to modify society.
If ISLAM doesn not adhere to western morality... why do u have to troll foreign media outlets to find sensationalist stories about appeasement? by ur logic EVERY muslim must be suing the government etc... when really its probably around 0.1% of the muslim population in the respective countries
Do we really need to discuss CAIR and its leadership. If so let me know and I will go surfing. I only ask since I am sure you already know what their position is and its history, by this I am hoping you will save me the trouble.
2008-10-18 04:49:58
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6887|SE London

FEOS wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

lol dubai
stupid fucking place

"Come to our beautiful beaches and hotels! Nevermind the slave workers, the alcohol ban, and the inability to show any affection for your significant other except in your hotel room!"
No alcohol ban in Dubai.
Almost banned. Can only be bought and consumed in bars, restaurants and hotels (unless you have a special license).

Sex before marriage is banned and as far as I'm concerned (not being married) that's far worse.

 

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