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go splash some water on your face and come back in 5 minutes.
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MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

usmarine wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

Makes me wonder what you really did over in Iraq without supervision.
i played soccer with some iraqi school kids.




then i ate their kidneys with some fava beans.
Nobody cared back then, nobody cares now.
i care.  I have a bottle of kianti with nothing to eat.
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Parker wrote:

seriously?
this is the debate and serious talk section?


what a joke
state crimes!  somebody call the constable.  I demand justice
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Interesting the two representatives of the military here have no comment at all on:-

- Former insurgents they were fighting receiving U$360m a year not to fight the US
- The general opinion that as soon as they payments stop they will go back to being insurgents, with shiny new weapons supplied by the US.

How much would the US be prepared to pay Bin Laden not to bother them any more?
Has it already happened?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Interesting the two representatives of the military here have no comment at all on:-

God Save the Queen wrote:

the insurgency never saw numbers in the hundred thousands.  the story is already bullshit
yawn dilbert.  yawn
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and there is more than two of us here dilbert.

Last edited by usmarine (2008-10-04 05:58:38)

Dilbert_X
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the insurgency never saw numbers in the hundred thousands.  the story is already bullshit
Depends on who you believe

On 14 November 2003 General John Abizaid, the head of US Central Command,
estimated the number of fighters operating against US and allied forces at no
more than 5,000
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ … rgency.htm
Yeah sure, 5,000 insurgents managed to kill 5,000+ US troops.
The New York Times reported on 22 October 2004 that senior American
officials believed that “hard-core resistance” comprised between 8,000 and
12,000 people, with the number jumping above 20,000 when “active sympathizers or
covert accomplices are included.”
Could be.
In late July 2005, Gen. Jack Keane, a former deputy chief of staff for the Army, said that US and Iraqi forces had killed or captured over 50,000 Iraqi insurgents since the begining of 2005.
Strange considering there were only 5,000 in the first place.
Or
In January 2005 Iraqi intelligence service director General Mohamed Abdullah Shahwani said that Iraq's insurgency consited of at least 40,000 hardcore fighters, out of a total of more than 200,000 part-time fighters and volunteers who provide intelligence, logistics and shelter.
I don't know which one is right, either way the US govt is funding and arming former insurgents, activity questionable by itself and counterproductive
- When they stop paying them
- As it will certainly enrage the Shia militias.

GG Idiots.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2008-10-05 21:09:08)

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Anyway, where is Lowing?
I thought appeasement was his thing?
Funny the US is doing more appeasing than anyone else, paying insurgents, taking its military out of Saudi etc.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

the insurgency never saw numbers in the hundred thousands.  the story is already bullshit
Depends on who you believe
i believe the internet.
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Do you believe Gen. Jack Keane?
I don't believe Gunslinger The Queen
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Do you believe Gen. Jack Keane?
I don't believe Gunslinger The Queen
Perhaps GS meant that the insurgency never saw its numbers in hundreds of thousands at one time maybe?

They come and go like the cold virus, the same ones fighting one month aren't necessarily going ot be the same the next.
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Perhaps GS meant that the insurgency never saw its numbers in hundreds of thousands at one time maybe?
Its either 'never' or its not. GS said never.
I don't know the numbers, or the exact definition of insurgent. The article says 100,000 Sunnis - many of who were former insurgents - are being paid to fight AQ.
Unless there is better information I suggest we go with that.

If its 10,000, 20,000, 50,000, 100,000 does it make a difference?

The US military is appeasing moslem terrorists by paying them, with arms and money, to fight a different enemy.
10,000 Insurgents with the blood of coalition troops on them in the pay of the US?
Sounds more serious appeasement to me than single sex gym sessions, letting moslems set up Sharia courts in Western countries, telling people not to lock their sheds,  or lowering exam standards etc.

If it was a good idea why did we wait five years and five thousand dead troops to figure it out?
Disbanding the Iraqi Army was the second stupidest idea the Neocons had, after invading Iraq in the first place.
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ooooooo i wanna be a revisionist historian also.  did you got to interwebs U?  or the U of youtube?
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usmarine wrote:

MGS3_GrayFox wrote:

usmarine wrote:


i played soccer with some iraqi school kids.




then i ate their kidneys with some fava beans.
Nobody cared back then, nobody cares now.
i care.  I have a bottle of kianti with nothing to eat.
It's Chianti tbh ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
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no u
Dilbert_X
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Its not revisionist, its happening now, read the OP.
And learn to spell.
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usmarine
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Dilbert_X wrote:

And learn to spell.
i wasnt talking about the OP.  i was refering to your little statement.  lol.  spelling.  lol.
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There's nothing revisionist there.
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Gunslinger wrote:

you really are a moron dude. regardless of what facts I present you are still going to stick to your own damn conclusions. -gunslinger
Please present some facts and we'll see.
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