Everything you thought you knew about McCain was wrong.

2008-10-05 11:38:23

#1

GorillaTicTacs: Member; +231|6679|Kyiv, Ukraine

Rolling Stone completely nailed it.

Even I'm just a bit speechless on this one.

Money quote from the article, after a paragraph showing similarities with W.Bush personal history.

Rolling Stone wrote:
In one vital respect, however, the comparison is deeply unfair to the current president: George W. Bush was a much better pilot.

Wow. Just wow. I always thought the war heroism stories were true as spoken, that he'd somehow just become a bit senile in his old age.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/covers … ohn_mccain

http://www.rollingstone.com/nationalaff … hn-mccain/

2008-10-05 12:38:29

#2

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6861

That´s a fairly hardcore article. It reeks just a tad of bias...

2008-10-05 12:44:03

#3

GorillaTicTacs: Member; +231|6679|Kyiv, Ukraine

CameronPoe wrote:
That´s a fairly hardcore article. It reeks just a tad of bias...

And the books McCain has had ghost-written about himself were gospel?

2008-10-05 12:46:00

#4

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6861

GorillaTicTacs wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
That´s a fairly hardcore article. It reeks just a tad of bias...
And the books McCain has had ghost-written about himself were gospel?

Of course not.

2008-10-05 12:48:55

#5

Locoloki: I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!; +216|6945|Your moms bedroom

Keating 5, hmm this shit sounds familiar with the current bank crisis. Maybe this is the experience Republicans are seeking for in their nominee for presidency.

Last edited by Locoloki (2008-10-05 12:49:31)

2008-10-05 12:51:17

#6

GorillaTicTacs: Member; +231|6679|Kyiv, Ukraine

CameronPoe wrote:
GorillaTicTacs wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
That´s a fairly hardcore article. It reeks just a tad of bias...
And the books McCain has had ghost-written about himself were gospel?
Of course not.

Rolling Stone is a left-leaning centrist rag. One thing they are known for is their impeccable fact checking when they do shit like this. Reduce the article to just bullet points and you still have a damning case that this guy should never be near the presidency. One president with daddy issues is enough.

2008-10-05 12:59:42

#7

Pierre: I hunt criminals down for a living; +68|6981|Belgium

Just a question to a non English speaking person:
- what is 'pork spending'?
- what is meant by 'earmark'?

2008-10-05 12:59:55

#8

san4: The Mas; +311|6994|NYC, a place to live

Sleazy article wrote:
But McCain's misgivings about the righteousness of the fight quickly took a back seat to his ambitions. . . . McCain embarked on his fateful 23rd mission, a bombing raid on a power plant in downtown Hanoi. McCain had cajoled his way onto the strike force — there were medals up for grabs. The plant had recently been rebuilt after a previous bombing run that had earned two of the lead pilots Navy Crosses, one of the force's top honors.

It was a dangerous mission — taking the planes into the teeth of North Vietnam's fiercest anti-aircraft defenses.

Personally, I don't give a shit why a guy risks his life for his country.

Last edited by san4 (2008-10-05 13:02:04)

2008-10-05 13:01:11

#9

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6886|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Boys will be boys.

"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."

What a charmer. But his wife is a junkie, so those are the only words she understands.

2008-10-05 13:05:02

#10

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6886|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Pierre wrote:
Just a question to a non English speaking person:
- what is 'pork spending'?
- what is meant by 'earmark'?

pieces of legislation that pass through the bowels of washington are "earmarked", as livestock is earmarked, with "pork spending", added on projects that often benefit the districts of the congressmen that add the earmarks.

2008-10-05 13:17:12

#11

Stubbee: Religions Hate Facts, Questions and Doubts; +223|7048|Reality

CameronPoe wrote:
That´s a fairly hardcore article. It reeks just a tad of bias...

It raises a hell of a lot of questions though. More than enough info regarding his military career to instill doubt. It certainly seems that he milked his family's influence to the max to stay in the Navy despite an abysmal record. 5th from the bottom? Holy fuck. Someone needs to find out with the other 5th from the bottom graduates are now doing with their lives. maybe donald trump, warren buffett or bill gates graduated 5th from the bottom.

Last edited by Stubbee (2008-10-05 13:26:51)

The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'

2008-10-05 16:23:55

#12

Home: Section.80; +447|7153|Seattle, Washington, USA

Wow, quite a revealing article. I bet McCain would love to meet the author so he could throw a tantrum or fight him.

2008-10-05 22:32:27

#13

Ajax_the_Great1: Dropped on request; +206|6952

A left leaning tampon of an article if I've ever seen one. Couldn't stomach the whole thing.

Any good points the article makes(and it does make some) are overpowered by the stench an "I'm out to get this guy" bias.

2008-10-05 23:22:48

#14

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,060|7077|PNW

1) 'Rolling Stone' is a rag. I take it about as seriously as 'The Sun.'
2) Anyone still blowing the 'qualifications' horn this far into both sides' campaigns should be strung up and shot with a thousand newspaper spitwads.
3) McCain's campaigning is as limp-wristed as a six-year-old girl's.
4) Vote for Obama for...hope...for America...and to be proud for the first time to be an American...and to have hope...yeah. Obama will keep talking...about hope!

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-10-05 23:23:21)

2008-10-05 23:27:04

#15

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6629|New Haven, CT

Obama will keep talking about hope while McCain will be making more impetuous decisions. I prefer the former over the latter.

2008-10-05 23:34:20

#16

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,060|7077|PNW

nukchebi0 wrote:
Obama will keep talking about hope while McCain will be making more impetuous decisions. I prefer the former over the latter.

How impetuous will Obama's decisions be if someone tries to influence him through, say, a captured grandma?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26656654/

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-10-05 23:35:11)

2008-10-06 00:14:57

#17

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6629|New Haven, CT

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
Obama will keep talking about hope while McCain will be making more impetuous decisions. I prefer the former over the latter.
How impetuous will Obama's decisions be if someone tries to influence him through, say, a captured grandma?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26656654/

Are you being serious? Its not like any other president's relatives were any less susceptible to kidnapping. Was it an issue then?

2008-10-06 00:36:22

#18

GorillaTicTacs: Member; +231|6679|Kyiv, Ukraine

The LA Times didn't skip a beat and is fact-checking the hell out of this story.

It seems of a 636-page military record, only 19 pages have been released.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la … 3315.story

LA Times wrote:
McCain recounted the accident [in which he crashed an AD-6 Skyraider near Corpus Christi, Texas, in 1960] decades later in his autobiography. "The engine quit while I was practicing landings," he wrote. But an investigation board at the Naval Aviation Safety Center found no evidence of engine failure.

The 23-year-old junior lieutenant wasn't paying attention and erred in using "a power setting too low to maintain level flight in a turn," investigators concluded.

His other crashes run a similar pattern. Sometimes the reports are revised later to say "unknown cause", but no physical evidence ever corroborated his stories about how each crash occured. The original conclusion in each case was "bad judgement" by those liberal military crash investigators.

Kerry was smeared...repugs cheered. Shoe...meet other foot. Of course, to be a real case of "swift-boating," you have to destroy someone's record based on fabrications. Progressives are less creative I guess.

Still getting over how Saint Ronny disowned him and never forgave McCain after he punked his first wife...all those Reagan worshippers should be pretty conflicted.

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