BF2S Forums John McCain suspends Campaign

usmarine wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

usmarine wrote:

right.

Republican Sen. John McCain kicked off the latest phase of the presidential race Wednesday by challenging Sen. Barack Obama to a series of town hall-type debates.
"I propose these town hall meetings be as free from the regimented trappings, rules and spectacle of formal debates as possible," McCain said in a letter to Obama, sent the morning after the Illinois senator clinched the Democratic presidential nomination.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/e … cain_N.htm

those didnt happen did they?  obama didnt want to do them.

This is a Presidential Debate. Sorry for the formalities Mr McSame.

yes but he is not cancelling it.  it is being pushed till AFTER the last one.

Yes, with only 1.5 months left and a crisis which will last an unknowable amount of time. 

They are trying to get the VP debate cancelled.  Simple as that.  Palin would be royally fucked in a one on one against Biden and they know it.

usmarine wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

Yes, with only 1.5 months left and a crisis which will last an unknowable amount of time. 

They are trying to get the VP debate cancelled.  Simple as that.  Palin would be royally fucked in a one on one against Biden and they know it.

oh yes, biden is a gem.

usmarine wrote:

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened,'" Barack Obama's running mate recently told the "CBS Evening News."


erm.....

Except, Republican Herbert Hoover was in office when the stock market crashed in October 1929. There also was no television at the time; TV wasn't introduced to the public until a decade later, at the 1939 World's Fair.


lulz

Do you honestly think he's that dumb?  And McCain not knowing how many houses he owned was simply an innocent slip up totally unrelated to his financial status?  hahahaha.

substitute the word radio for TV which any 5th grader would know is what he meant and the sentence is okay.  The Great Depression lasted a lot longer than 2 years you know.  If you actually listened to what Biden said instead of focusing on the obvious mistaken "verbage" as Palin would put it, he's absolutely right.

blah blah.  look, he said IF it is not resolved by Friday afternoon.  So, it is still on technically.

Spearhead wrote:

If you actually listened to what Biden said instead of focusing on the obvious mistaken "verbage" as Palin would put it, he's absolutely right.

if you are going to sit there and tell me if palin had said that...there would not be a thread and shit tons of bashing, then i dont know what to think about you.

usmarine wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

If you actually listened to what Biden said instead of focusing on the obvious mistaken "verbage" as Palin would put it, he's absolutely right.

if you are going to sit there and tell me if palin had said that...there would not be a thread and shit tons of bashing, then i dont know what to think about you.

I'd actually be impressed that she would say they wouldnt just go after the "princes" of Wallstreet or however Biden said it, but actully went after the underlying cause of the problem.

She wouldnt say that, its against anyones principles on the right side of the isle to enact regulation until a crisis comes along, then its okay.  Not before or after.

usmarine wrote:

you answered exactly how i thought you would.

And I you, marine.  and I you.  I'm not sure if thats good verbage but ok.  good night my love. /sleeps

Christbane wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Don’t come back, Reid tells McCain.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch … ccain.html

“This is a critical time for our country,” says the Reid statement. “While I appreciate that both candidates have signaled their willingness to help, Congress and the Administration have a process in place to reach a solution to this unprecedented financial crisis. I understand that the candidates are putting together a joint statement at Senator Obama’s suggestion. But it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation’s economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op. If there were ever a time for both candidates to hold a debate before the American people about this serious challenge, it is now.”

although I believe McCain cares about what is going on I think this is all about him trying to look good by releasing this.  I agree with the quote above.

Omg, Reid is such a tool.

Yesterday Reid wrote:

We need, now, the Republicans to start producing some votes for us. We need the Republican nominee for president to let us know where he stands and what we should do.

And today Harry Reid went out of his way to tell him, “don’t bother”.

So Harry Reid says that it’s essential that John McCain backs legislation designed to avert the greatest economic meltdown since the Great Depression. And when McCain says the highly problematic legislation, in its current form, is not good enough, Reid tells McCain to stay away from Capitol Hill. Who’s playing politics with economic crisis?

What Reid fears is that McCain will return to lead the Republican effort to reach a compromise, and the Senate and House GOP will let him do it.  If McCain takes ownership of the bailout effort and manages to get his suggestions on limiting executive compensation and so on as part of the finished product, he will be able to trot McCain-Dodd on the campaign trail as yet another reform he’s accomplished by working across the aisle.  And in a time of crisis, no less.

Notice that Reid never demanded leadership from the Democratic nominee for President.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

It sounded like he told Obama and McCain not to come back.  Either way, Reid is a slimeball and a whore to lobbyists, especially when those lobbyists employ his family members.

That's not what he was saying yesterday.

Just delay the debate for a few days and sort this shit out, what's the problem? If they're completely cancelling the debate, than that's a failure by both candidates to the people (you guys). But if they're just going to delay the debate, so what?

Spearhead wrote:

Thats very noble of him.
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ditto

Economy is in too much of a crisis for a changing of the guard.

Bush for four more years!

IRONCHEF wrote:

Wow, what a shameless coward.  The war hero runs like a pansy to a photo op thinking he'll make a diference.  What a sad, pathetic little man.  Honestly, watching Letterman destroy McCain last night was right on the money.  Sad that satire is where you get to see the truth of things.  Letterman said McCain called him just before the show time, said he can't make it because he's getting on a plane to washington to go fix the economy!  THen an hour later, right when Letterman's show starts filming...McCain is on with Katie Couric pretending to be concerned about an economy he has no clue about, and intends to help.  His false nobility effort is yet another gay attempt to show that his job is more important than his campaign. 

Letterman suggested many things..chief among them was that his dip in the polls dictated a move like this.  And of course the right is playing it up as intended that some how Obama, who wishes to do both (the debate AND his job), isn't presidential, doesn't really care about the economy, etc...when just hours before McCain's pansy retreat announcement, Obama made his politically neutral move by suggesting the two of them make a statement of solidarity for the cause of the senetorial debate on the economy.   But no, McCain needed to do his shameful photo-op, riding the coat tails of Bush (who is not telling anyone any new information), who LIKE BUSH, just a week ago said the economy is still good.  If there were ever a "McSame" moment, this was it.  Sad, sad, sad.

I expected no less tbh. I mean he got Olberman to replace him ffs..lol.

Here is the clip.

If Obama bails on SNL due to an impending crisis why wouldn't McCain bail on Letterman? I detect a tinge of selective reasoning.

Selective reasoning?  Am I sticking up for Obama or saying he's perfect?  I am venting on McCain.  It's just sad so many of his supporters are actually thinking "At least McCain put his country first 'again' while Obama put his campaign first." Like Obama doesn't care, isn't voting, or isn't doing what a presidential candidate should do where possible (a photo op, no doubt...but at least it was a non-partisan photo-op).

Honestly, the situation is bi-partisan.  Pelosi and Boners, Reids and Presidents are all working together..there's a general consensus on the 700 billion in loan cash they wish to waste...or not waste.  There's good, solid negotiating going on..much better than other important senatorial or congressional decision making where McCain's debating and voting or even good ideas would warrant a visit.  But no, he picks now..SOLELY as a political stunt, to show up to Washington (the guy who's been napping there for 22 years), and somehow blow everyone's mind with a NEW idea on the economy...no doubt, an idea his staff figured out would poll well.

Bleh...like Letterman, I can't stop ripping on this loser.

You know, when I liked McCain - back when he did have principle, defied politics as usual, and represented lots of my views - I could see him doing something like this....AND making his debate (which recent news says he may still make..no doubt he got alot of bad press which soured his polling a little less).  But the McCain he's become in the last 5 years or so..is a shameless, politics-as-usual, pathetic sell-out.  He's returning to his lackluster polling after the RNC bump, and he's doing desperate measures to save face and not lose in a total landslide....I could be mistaken, but if I were to picture a proud, stubborn, angry old man, I'd be picturing McCain.

RAIMIUS wrote:

Wow, this one is nicely divided along party lines! 

[rant]
Why can't people see that the candidates always try to do what is best for them?  They are both Senators, which means it is their job to pass good legislation.  They postpone a debate to DO THEIR JOBS, and all we do is argue about them being "empty suits," dodging debates, being persons other than themself, etc...all based on OUR party affiliation...
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You're right.  But as for me, I belong to no party, nor do I support the idea of a political party and the blind cohesion voters give to them.  I give credit where it's due, and I (more commonly) rip into any politician where it's due.  I'm as politically neutral as any person I know...i regard myself as a true independent/moderate.  I have a few leanings left, a few (probably more than the left) leanings right.  Some Authoritarian, some (more than authoritarian) libertarian.  I vote for individuals...and the individuals I have to choose from are not perfect, and one is downright pathetic..we know which one that is.

Last edited by IRONCHEF (2008-09-25 10:47:04)