BudRell
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=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

BudRell wrote:

pfff...one "uber" more I can see....

You must be one of the bunnyhopping idiots...

So just bounce and hop if you think that's the idea of this game too.

Noob..
Hah! Your assumptions are wrong. I may do it every now and then but I don't do it constantly. I'm a shotty kind of guy and jumping doesn't help.
I'm just talking to everyone who wants it to be more "realistic." Realistic = not fun.I think EA/ Dice did a good job of balancing realism and fun factor. they had to draw the line somewhere on the realism or else it wouldn't be enjoyable. And you can't tell me that bunny hopping completely ruins the game because there isn't THAT many people that do it. Go cry to somebody else. If you're not good enough to shoot an idiot rabbit, you shouldn't be playing the game. Play Single player.
LÅL....how about checking your blood pressure

Well, I must have misunderstood your "side" about hopping and bobbing. So I apologize down on my knees.

And I surely can drop rabbits on 1vs1 (Even you ) like most can. If it's a good day I can murder 2 or 3 before RogerRabbit gets me.

But like most regular players I am pissed on situations when I am the last of my team...alive. From the rabbithole comes two of these idiots energybars and clips ful and I have half clip for my handgun. Theres NO question what happens...
After that these arsewipes can sometimes inform you like "What a noob..." like real pros do....
If you have luck and kill them they say "What a cheating noob.."

Lol...boyz are boyz...

Last edited by BudRell (2005-08-15 03:01:12)

=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7083

BudRell wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

BudRell wrote:

pfff...one "uber" more I can see....

You must be one of the bunnyhopping idiots...

So just bounce and hop if you think that's the idea of this game too.

Noob..
Hah! Your assumptions are wrong. I may do it every now and then but I don't do it constantly. I'm a shotty kind of guy and jumping doesn't help.
I'm just talking to everyone who wants it to be more "realistic." Realistic = not fun.I think EA/ Dice did a good job of balancing realism and fun factor. they had to draw the line somewhere on the realism or else it wouldn't be enjoyable. And you can't tell me that bunny hopping completely ruins the game because there isn't THAT many people that do it. Go cry to somebody else. If you're not good enough to shoot an idiot rabbit, you shouldn't be playing the game. Play Single player.
LÅL....how about checking your blood pressure

Well, I must have misunderstood your "side" about hopping and bobbing. So I apologize down on my knees.

And I surely can drop rabbits on 1vs1 (Even you ) like most can. If it's a good day I can murder 2 or 3 before RogerRabbit gets me.

But like most regular players I am pissed on situations when I am the last of my team...alive. From the rabbithole comes two of these idiots energybars and clips ful and I have half clip for my handgun. Theres NO question what happens...
After that these arsewipes can sometimes inform you like "What a noob..." like real pros do....
If you have luck and kill them they say "What a cheating noob.."

Lol...boyz are boyz...
I laughed a lot when I read all that.
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7083
alright.. the little frog jump is what has officially got on my nerves. the frog jump is done by using z and jump at the same time... anyways.. I was sniping.. and this sergeant was just frog jumping around the whole map. (16 player map) SO annoying. worse than regular jumpers.
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7087

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

if this was meant to be THAT realistic, 1 shotgun shot would kill instead of people living through 7 S12k shots. a sniper shot would kill unless in the leg or arm or something, if you got shot in the nuts, you'd die and bleed everywhere, there would be no such thing as being revived with shock paddles considering shock paddles don't have the power to heal gunshot wounds or stop bleeding. You wouldn't be able to fly over a runway and get repaired and ammoed up. there wouldn't be tags above peoples heads, there wouldn't be a map, there wouldn't be SPAWNING.
Now, do we want to talk realistic? or fun?
STFU N00B!
I see your piont, but is that the piont you Really wanted to make ? hopping is such fun?
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7083

Horseman 77 wrote:

=[4th]=SlayThem wrote:

if this was meant to be THAT realistic, 1 shotgun shot would kill instead of people living through 7 S12k shots. a sniper shot would kill unless in the leg or arm or something, if you got shot in the nuts, you'd die and bleed everywhere, there would be no such thing as being revived with shock paddles considering shock paddles don't have the power to heal gunshot wounds or stop bleeding. You wouldn't be able to fly over a runway and get repaired and ammoed up. there wouldn't be tags above peoples heads, there wouldn't be a map, there wouldn't be SPAWNING.
Now, do we want to talk realistic? or fun?
STFU N00B!
I see your piont, but is that the piont you Really wanted to make ? hopping is such fun?
I wasn't saying that hopping is fun. but I think it'd be less fun if you couldn't even jump over freakin sandbags.
BudRell
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Lål..if we forget that this is a game and the fact that in reality no human would jump like rabbit.
Instead everyone can do a little test at home.
Put ALL your winter clothes on and take a belt that weight lifters use.
Hang about 40kg to that belt.
40kg simulates the weight of 4 bandmines that "tank destroyers" carry with them (per man). Atleast  we did..

Try to jump...
Try to run...

Compare your observations to game. The running in game is probably near reality.
Jumping is bull. I bet that whoever coded movements to this game has never been in the army.

But still...it has been coded so and theres nothing we can do. We can just shoot them. That's that.
Miakei
Member
+1|7073|Los Angeles, CA
Ok, the game isn't supposed to be a realistic simulation, but when I see guys flopping around on the ground like a fish out of water, there's somethi8ng wrong with that. I mean, I hate bunny hopping, but I can deal with it, it's the wierd going prone, jumping up from being prone, and becoming prone again in midair routine that I find tiresome. I mean, yeah, any video game requires a suspension of disbelief, but that's taking it a bit far.
mikeshw
Radioactive Glo
+130|7088|A Small Isle in the Tropics

Misery:
try to be on the receiving end of a bunny hopper medic with a paddle, he avoids your fire, jumps at you with his paddle and kills in one go..

Poetic Justice:

an MEC bunny hopper prone inside a shack at the extreme left beach outpost on Gulf of Oman, stuck in a corner and trying to jump to avoid the chain gun i was firing from the BH i was in. He can hop all he wants but when you are in the corner of a room, you are hopping nowhere, especially if you have a low headroom shack to add to your hopping misery.
Krauser98
Extra Green Please!
+53|7080|USA! USA! USA!

BudRell wrote:

Lål..if we forget that this is a game and the fact that in reality no human would jump like rabbit.
Instead everyone can do a little test at home.
Put ALL your winter clothes on and take a belt that weight lifters use.
Hang about 40kg to that belt.
40kg simulates the weight of 4 bandmines that "tank destroyers" carry with them (per man). Atleast  we did..

Try to jump...
Try to run...

Compare your observations to game. The running in game is probably near reality.
Jumping is bull. I bet that whoever coded movements to this game has never been in the army.

But still...it has been coded so and theres nothing we can do. We can just shoot them. That's that.
Ha ha.  One time, IRL, we were assaulting a house, that for some reason was built on top of two feet of concrete.  My team moved up the rocks on the right and I went to cover the corner on the left.  I forgot I had my ruck on because it had been there all day, so my bounding leap onto the patio was only about one foot high.  I managed to get my left foot up, but my right shin hit the cement wall and the momentum of my ruck laid me out.  One of my team members later asked me if I had been hurt when I fell and I was like "What? Fell?  When?  Oh.  No, I just went prone in a field expedient manor."  …  He didn’t believe me.
BudRell
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LOL...muahahaha
GritsPwnsU
Banned
+0|7072|San Antonio, TX
The only reason people cry about jumping is because they cant seem to learn it for themselves its to complicated for them to jump and still fight at the sametime... Learn TO MULTITASK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like the first response said if u dont like it go to MOH.
unforgiven5150
Member
+0|7029|Phoenix, AZ
I can't stand it either. One of the main reasons I LOVE BF2 is the realism. I know that "bunny hopping" has been around forever and people use it, but what bugs me is really not the people using. It is the EA and other games put so much into a game to make the physics realistic and then they allow bunny hopping. It would basically be impossible in real life. I know what some of you will say "its a game, not real life". That is 100% true. But if that is the stand point, why try to make everything else so realistic. Take the support gunner. M249 SAW, weighing in at about 15lbs, plus your gear, 200rds in the box on the gun, the extra ammo, the armor, you think bunny-hopping would even be REMOTELY possible?
Duskwolf
Member
+0|7030
Personally.. i'm with the crew that think bunny hopping is a pointless excersize and should result in your aim being raped badly.. just to keep it even.. dodging getting hit is one thing, but dodging getting hit while being able to aim perfectly is BS..

The only thing worse than that and Spawn Campers is a weapon we all know as the AWP/n00bcannon. :p

Last edited by Duskwolf (2005-10-05 17:51:40)

polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7039|Singapore

Bunny Hopping, Frog Jumping, Dolphin Diving, I can do all of that. And i can blow any one away who does that at me. I've played the Quake series competitively enough to learn strafe jumps (half-beat strafes, full beat strafes), circle jumping, promode jumping etc. I won't say I'm the best diving etc, but i can do it well enough to avoid most shots.

But I don't do it. Why? It just spoils the fun of the game. Sure, in cs it was fun to bunny around the map so fricking fast you would've made 1 entire round around  the de_dust map before the CTs even entered their end of the tunnel. But that's CS. That's a dumb game. In the BF2 that i love, i'm not gonna spoil it this way. I can't count how many such idiots i've blasted off the face of the earth (this seems to happen more in the 16-player servers that I frequent).

I admit that i've done it once or twice, emptied out my rifle, M203, handgun. Left holding my knife. So instinct kicks in and I start diving towards him. But no, I won't do it until i run out of my last bullet.
00SoldierofFortune00
Member
+1|7046
Why not do what DOD did and make you lower your gun while jumping or going prone, like when you sprint. You don't need the complexity of AA, but DOD's method would work teh best while still retaining the gameplay. I think though, that they should use AA's method of dealing with the M203 though, but maybe lessen the range alittle for it to explode, but not by much. These would deal with the problems. The game doesn't need to be a war sim, but if it has realistic weapons and gear, then they should at least work similarly.
thinner44
Member
+1|7060

PermaG wrote:

I want this game to be so realistic, that once I die, I can never play it again.
Without doubt the funniest post I've read so far, cheers for the laugh.

Can you imagine the money we would have to shell out if every game was like that.....
Nebular
Member
+1|7033
May be in single player campain, if you die you can't play for 24 H max, but in mulriplayer, die and never play anymore is just so freaking impossible, you can't even imagine what would happen ...

Rich peoples would buy 50 games and like that they can die 50 times, but normal/poor people will just play 10 mn then turn offf the computer and waste 60$ ....

Last edited by Nebular (2005-10-06 02:43:41)

Greenie_Beazinie
Aussie Outlaw
+8|7063
Jumping is fucked... it may as well be exploiting cause it only really works because of ping. If it was LAN gaming jumpers would be fucked.
HellSibling
Member
+0|7052
the best solution would be to tie the jumping ability more into the endurance bar...right now you use your endurance  up when you jump or sprint, but when your endurance is depleted, you can't sprint....should be the same for jumping.  so those that need to get outta your seats and jump around, go for it, but don't expect it to last.  i see no reason why people shouldn't be able to hop around like a bunch of fruit fly's on meth if thats their weak ass style, but it should be impossible to do it without some sort of consequences.
ProDicTeD
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NO, the best sollution is that EVERYONE bunny hops!! I don't know why more people don't??!!??!? if they don't know how they should play ut2004 or Quake 3 and see how it's done

yes i bunny hop and like someone told me once, in a real war you do everything to survive so why not jump like an idiot??!?!?!??!?
Duskwolf
Member
+0|7030

ProDicTeD wrote:

NO, the best sollution is that EVERYONE bunny hops!! I don't know why more people don't??!!??!? if they don't know how they should play ut2004 or Quake 3 and see how it's done

yes i bunny hop and like someone told me once, in a real war you do everything to survive so why not jump like an idiot??!?!?!??!?
I can derive 2 things from this:
1. You've never been in a real war.
2. You use Your ! and ? keys entirely too much. This makes you an idiot.

Look at it this way.. if you were jumping around like a spastic in a real war, do you think you would get shot less? The correct answer is no. You would be fucked in seconds.
Simple reasons..

1. You can't aim while jumping around trying to avoid bullets, fact.
2. Jumping only really means you'll catch 4 rounds in your legs instead of your chest, where you could have just reacted and dropped the the target.
3. In a game, jumping around in such a fashion just states that you lack the ability to aim, and that you have no interest in fair playing.
4. doing so in real life would be incredibly tiring, consider the weight on your body. (this is where I agree with Hellsibling.. jump should be tied to endurance.. you're not wearing a pair of jeans and a tshirt, you're in combat gear, it limits your jumping ability, your movement ability to a degree, and it is heavy shit if you plan on jumping around a lot! (To the tune of 50+ Kg's))

So.. what we can figure from this is that,
A: People that are unable to play properly are noobs.
B: Frog Jumping (or whatever you call it) is for noobs.
C: doing this "?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!??!?!?!" Makes you an idiot.
D: Endurance and Jumping are in fact related, and should be in the game.
E: Jumping should rape your ability to aim.

Did we get all that?
Good.

Last edited by Duskwolf (2005-10-06 18:11:19)

krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7030|Great Brown North

Duskwolf wrote:

ProDicTeD wrote:

NO, the best sollution is that EVERYONE bunny hops!! I don't know why more people don't??!!??!? if they don't know how they should play ut2004 or Quake 3 and see how it's done

yes i bunny hop and like someone told me once, in a real war you do everything to survive so why not jump like an idiot??!?!?!??!?
I can derive 2 things from this:
1. You've never been in a real war.
2. You use Your ! and ? keys entirely too much. This makes you an idiot.

Look at it this way.. if you were jumping around like a spastic in a real war, do you think you would get shot less? The correct answer is no. You would be fucked in seconds.
Simple reasons..

1. You can't aim while jumping around trying to avoid bullets, fact.
2. Jumping only really means you'll catch 4 rounds in your legs instead of your chest, where you could have just reacted and dropped the the target.
3. In a game, jumping around in such a fashion just states that you lack the ability to aim, and that you have no interest in fair playing.
4. doing so in real life would be incredibly tiring, consider the weight on your body. (this is where I agree with Hellsibling.. jump should be tied to endurance.. you're not wearing a pair of jeans and a tshirt, you're in combat gear, it limits your jumping ability, your movement ability to a degree, and it is heavy shit if you plan on jumping around a lot! (To the tune of 50+ Kg's))

So.. what we can figure from this is that,
A: People that are unable to play properly are noobs.
B: Frog Jumping (or whatever you call it) is for noobs.
C: doing this "?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!??!?!?!" Makes you an idiot.
D: Endurance and Jumping are in fact related, and should be in the game.
E: Jumping should rape your ability to aim.

Did we get all that?
Good.
best reply ever. i dont want to see jumping lessened so much it useless to even try, but make it so they cant aim at all and their stamina drops fast and once its gone they cant jump until its  1/4 full again or something? im tired of people prone jumping with the nade launcher....

Last edited by krazed (2005-10-06 19:46:17)

nayo450
Member
+-1|7043
and actually that cases problems for team mates too, many a time that i've had a head shot linded up,
then all of a sudden one of my team mates jupped right into my cross hairs as i pulled the triggger.
ProDicTeD
Member
+2|7058

Duskwolf wrote:

ProDicTeD wrote:

NO, the best sollution is that EVERYONE bunny hops!! I don't know why more people don't??!!??!? if they don't know how they should play ut2004 or Quake 3 and see how it's done

yes i bunny hop and like someone told me once, in a real war you do everything to survive so why not jump like an idiot??!?!?!??!?
I can derive 2 things from this:
1. You've never been in a real war.
2. You use Your ! and ? keys entirely too much. This makes you an idiot.

Look at it this way.. if you were jumping around like a spastic in a real war, do you think you would get shot less? The correct answer is no. You would be fucked in seconds.
Simple reasons..

1. You can't aim while jumping around trying to avoid bullets, fact.
2. Jumping only really means you'll catch 4 rounds in your legs instead of your chest, where you could have just reacted and dropped the the target.
3. In a game, jumping around in such a fashion just states that you lack the ability to aim, and that you have no interest in fair playing.
4. doing so in real life would be incredibly tiring, consider the weight on your body. (this is where I agree with Hellsibling.. jump should be tied to endurance.. you're not wearing a pair of jeans and a tshirt, you're in combat gear, it limits your jumping ability, your movement ability to a degree, and it is heavy shit if you plan on jumping around a lot! (To the tune of 50+ Kg's))

So.. what we can figure from this is that,
A: People that are unable to play properly are noobs.
B: Frog Jumping (or whatever you call it) is for noobs.
C: doing this "?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!??!?!?!" Makes you an idiot.
D: Endurance and Jumping are in fact related, and should be in the game.
E: Jumping should rape your ability to aim.

Did we get all that?
Good.
1 - you're post pwned mine
2 - the personal attack was lame
3 - no, i have never been to a real war. i think real wars are in a fact stupid and hardly ever have the good reasons
4 - i know jumping won't keep you alive in a real war
5 - !?!?!? i used this because i felt like it and i know it is kind of stupid
6 - tired of people bunny hopping and complaining about it
7 - so i go around doing it myself
8 - my aiming is perfect
9 - lets go play together
10 - this numbering is stupid and lame

edit: i won't care allot if they took away bunny hopping, only if they  get rid of m203 + gp30

Last edited by ProDicTeD (2005-10-07 13:57:42)

Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7025|Moscow, Russia
well, i quite like to read through forums here, it seems some really cool people post in here from time to time. i thought i'd post too in this thread as "hopping" problem is what bugs me the most in bf2.

i mean sorry but i can't help but hate bunnyhoppers. i thought the problem was so obvious that it really surprised me when i saw ppl trying to advocate it. "it is present in every other fps game, blah, blah, get used" and so on. well, to all you fps'ers out there: bf2 is already much more than just fps game and could be even better if ea would just fix some unfortunate things. so just stfu and listen to those who play this game with some thought of teamwork and strategy. or even better - go back to ut2k4 and stuff and leave bf2 to ppl with brains. games of reflexes are getting damn old and should rip already. bf2 is one perfect mix of fps, mmog and general warfare simulation. it's so damn clear that this game was designed to favor TEAMWORK and STRATEGY that ppl saying it's ok to be at an advantage through bu11sh** like bunnyhopping or any such thing are not even funny.

i know it's been discussed a million times but i'd repeat:

1. cannot fire while in midair.
2. cannot reload while in midair.
3. cannot go prone while in midair.
4. cannot jump when low on stamina.

that should about fix it.
just my thoghts on the matter. have fun.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

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