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I love how just about half of the threads here turn into flame wars? Take it easy people.
IF the soloer decides he wants to spend the rest of the match taking them down - sure. But that's not even a Chopper Vs. Chopper battle, where's the skill if the two man crew is busy elsewhere?Ataronchronon wrote:
You make an effective argument, but your theory doesn't quite hold up in practice.Hakei wrote:
I'm trying to say you're wrong, that isn't me being smart, that's me having something called an understanding. Firstly, 'a pair of faggots' can range whore quite easily Vs. a solo pilot, meaning they won't get a chance to hit by the time his gunner has killed you. Secondly - the very idea of chopper scrims is a two man crew, if it's not a two man crew then you might as well go play public servers - you're not going to be able to use cover effectively and you're going to crash a hell of a lot when you fire your TV.
Not only that, 4 eyes are better than 2, there's more chance of the pilot seeing in 3rd view whilst your gunner is in TV mode, being solo doesn't give you that option. Next is the issue of being able to hide whilst you're being fired at with a two man crew, not possible solo - you'd be raped. Next is the time it takes for you to solo spot the enemy chopper, at least a 3.5 second head start for the two man team which is vital in getting a good position, hell with enough prac you could take out a solo chopper on Daq 16 before you even get a chance to fire a second shot. Also, there are some situations that you just can't solo in and stay alive without your chopper hitting the floor or a wall, perfect example is Daq.
So much for a 0.01th of a second advantage.
It's true, for the reasons you stated, that a two man crew has an advantage over a soloer. However, I would say from my experience that a soloer can still take out a two man crew almost as often as a two man crew can take out a soloer.
In a 2 vs 1 situation, not going to happen.
fuck u guys, hasn't this game been out long enough, and these solo/redlining threads posted enough, for ya'll just to ignore it
On topic: heli's, sers busniz
On topic: heli's, sers busniz
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ThePunisher_ITA_ wrote:
Solo? Without a gunner? Are u crazy?
1.miley wrote:
Please show me where i insulted you as far as i can see you are the one throwing insults around.also please show me where i was being elitist i was merely airing my opinion, something you're obviously not allowed to do to the BF2s mafia.jord wrote:
Shut up. Who judges people by stats? Only nobheads.miley wrote:
@ The punisher this is so the wrong forum to be looking for a sensible answer or even a smidgen of sympathy kudos for trying though.
@ jord 2.7 kdr in choppers sorry m8 you aint nothing special so if i were you i'd keep quiet.
@ the people who answered sensibly i agree, 3 people of equal skill in a 2v1 chopper situation, my money would be on the 2 man crew every time.
Stats=life.
If you want to insult people by their stats I suggest you keep your mouth firmly shut and fuck off back to TBF2 forums.
you show incredible ignorance and hippocracy please re read your own posts.
If you think that ganging up and trying to intimidate me on the internet will work well lol just lol.
If you think you're realy mr tough guy pm me i'm quite prepared to make a journey and pay you a vist its your call.
TBF2 forums never been there, so once again litltle boy you're just showing collosal ignorance and immaturity.[ little boy isn't an insult but very likely a fact.]
FYI i've been here longer than most of you, i was here when polarbearz was about, i was here when spawnofthemist was at his annoying best you sadly are a pale immatation and i know far more about you than you will ever know about me.
Lastly i apologise for not being one of the BF2s bullies i guess i've just got to put the time in and be rude and childish like a lot of you.
2. Learn to spell.
3. Who are you again? You always insult people's playing ability, yet no one has ever heard of you. REVEAL YOUR STATS HARD MAN.
#rekt
lmao bigtime at this thread. If you love choppers so much get a blackhawk they have really great minigun
he was the shit, although that weird rant he went on that got him banned was really weird.usmarine wrote:
i love spawnofthemist
i've always suspected that it wasn't him, but i guess we will never know
Uh you want me to pm me your details so we can meat up and fight? And you're telling me to grow up? You tried using a Kdr as a lame insult and I responded in kind. So calm yourself down, and go to tbf2 forums. They all live for stats there, you'll like it.miley wrote:
Please show me where i insulted you as far as i can see you are the one throwing insults around.also please show me where i was being elitist i was merely airing my opinion, something you're obviously not allowed to do to the BF2s mafia.jord wrote:
Shut up. Who judges people by stats? Only nobheads.miley wrote:
@ The punisher this is so the wrong forum to be looking for a sensible answer or even a smidgen of sympathy kudos for trying though.
@ jord 2.7 kdr in choppers sorry m8 you aint nothing special so if i were you i'd keep quiet.
@ the people who answered sensibly i agree, 3 people of equal skill in a 2v1 chopper situation, my money would be on the 2 man crew every time.
Stats=life.
If you want to insult people by their stats I suggest you keep your mouth firmly shut and fuck off back to TBF2 forums.
you show incredible ignorance and hippocracy please re read your own posts.
If you think that ganging up and trying to intimidate me on the internet will work well lol just lol.
If you think you're realy mr tough guy pm me i'm quite prepared to make a journey and pay you a vist its your call.
TBF2 forums never been there, so once again litltle boy you're just showing collosal ignorance and immaturity.[ little boy isn't an insult but very likely a fact.]
FYI i've been here longer than most of you, i was here when polarbearz was about, i was here when spawnofthemist was at his annoying best you sadly are a pale immatation and i know far more about you than you will ever know about me.
Lastly i apologise for not being one of the BF2s bullies i guess i've just got to put the time in and be rude and childish like a lot of you.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=84721specialistx2324 wrote:
Ouch, thats got to hurt.miley wrote:
Please show me where i insulted you as far as i can see you are the one throwing insults around.also please show me where i was being elitist i was merely airing my opinion, something you're obviously not allowed to do to the BF2s mafia.jord wrote:
Shut up. Who judges people by stats? Only nobheads.
Stats=life.
If you want to insult people by their stats I suggest you keep your mouth firmly shut and fuck off back to TBF2 forums.
you show incredible ignorance and hippocracy please re read your own posts.
If you think that ganging up and trying to intimidate me on the internet will work well lol just lol.
If you think you're realy mr tough guy pm me i'm quite prepared to make a journey and pay you a vist its your call.
TBF2 forums never been there, so once again litltle boy you're just showing collosal ignorance and immaturity.[ little boy isn't an insult but very likely a fact.]
FYI i've been here longer than most of you, i was here when polarbearz was about, i was here when spawnofthemist was at his annoying best you sadly are a pale immatation and i know far more about you than you will ever know about me.
Lastly i apologise for not being one of the BF2s bullies i guess i've just got to put the time in and be rude and childish like a lot of you.
Ouch, that's got to hurt.
^
Because, you moron while I've dodged your first solo retard shot, you are then obviously going to turn broadside to me, and if my gunner doesnt TV you then, your stupid twirl wont work. Ive got over 400 hours in chopper, 20K+ driver kills assists, and its safe to say only complete IDIOTS think you can get more kills soloing than with a gunner. When I am up against some solo noob, I have to stop myself from laughing becuase I know how easy its going to be.jord wrote:
What are you trying to say smartass.Hakei wrote:
Lol.jord wrote:
It's just the same really when you get good. The 2 man team might have .01 of a second advatage on the soloer and thats it.
Just lol.
In a 1 v 1 heli dogfight the first tv missle hits if you aren't totally shit. So tell me bf2 master. What advantage does a pair of faggots have over one guy?
As far as redliners go, they can eat a dick. People redline me without knowing me, I have a mic and I almost never miss TV. Fuck those assholes.
play as medic. problem solved!ThePunisher_ITA_ wrote:
... HE TEAMKILLED ME in the heli BRINGING me (and just me) out of the map...
You win at the inteznet.Evilhamburglar wrote:
Because, you moron while I've dodged your first solo retard shot, you are then obviously going to turn broadside to me, and if my gunner doesnt TV you then, your stupid twirl wont work. Ive got over 400 hours in chopper, 20K+ driver kills assists, and its safe to say only complete IDIOTS think you can get more kills soloing than with a gunner. When I am up against some solo noob, I have to stop myself from laughing becuase I know how easy its going to be.jord wrote:
What are you trying to say smartass.Hakei wrote:
Lol.
Just lol.
In a 1 v 1 heli dogfight the first tv missle hits if you aren't totally shit. So tell me bf2 master. What advantage does a pair of faggots have over one guy?
As far as redliners go, they can eat a dick. People redline me without knowing me, I have a mic and I almost never miss TV. Fuck those assholes.
Bla bla bla like I said I'm not going to have this 3 year old conversation. I would redline you if you got in my heli.Evilhamburglar wrote:
Because, you moron while I've dodged your first solo retard shot, you are then obviously going to turn broadside to me, and if my gunner doesnt TV you then, your stupid twirl wont work. Ive got over 400 hours in chopper, 20K+ driver kills assists, and its safe to say only complete IDIOTS think you can get more kills soloing than with a gunner. When I am up against some solo noob, I have to stop myself from laughing becuase I know how easy its going to be.jord wrote:
What are you trying to say smartass.Hakei wrote:
Lol.
Just lol.
In a 1 v 1 heli dogfight the first tv missle hits if you aren't totally shit. So tell me bf2 master. What advantage does a pair of faggots have over one guy?
As far as redliners go, they can eat a dick. People redline me without knowing me, I have a mic and I almost never miss TV. Fuck those assholes.
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like some cheese with your whine?
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Funny.signa wrote:
play as medic. problem solved!ThePunisher_ITA_ wrote:
... HE TEAMKILLED ME in the heli BRINGING me (and just me) out of the map...
Whenever I'm gonna fly with a heli with another player, I play as a Medic, mainly to heal ourselves when hit by armor piercing ammunition.
I have never thought about this side effect against being red-lined though.
I find it amazing that every or 90% of the topics created on BF2s end up into an argument at some point.
Is that all people come on here for? An argument? I always come on here wearing my flame suit, it has gone through a lot since I've first put it on, but while in this territory I'm afraid of taking it off in fear of getting flamed.
Anyways, yes, he's a jerk. I pilot nubcakes all the time unless I have a friend that I want to gun with, in which case I ask the gunner that hops in to get out because I have someone I want to gun with. Most of the time they get out, unless they're douche bags, in that case I just spin in circles until they finally bail out. Piloting nubcakes though in place of soloing will at least help them get better, and then eventually they can become ub3r as well, some day.
Punisher, the only thing you can do is to just avoid pilots like him. You find someone like him just go do something else, there's no point in getting redlined / TKed all round, which in the end just screws up your stats even more. Find something else to work on, tanking, flying jets, playing infantry, etc...
Is that all people come on here for? An argument? I always come on here wearing my flame suit, it has gone through a lot since I've first put it on, but while in this territory I'm afraid of taking it off in fear of getting flamed.
Anyways, yes, he's a jerk. I pilot nubcakes all the time unless I have a friend that I want to gun with, in which case I ask the gunner that hops in to get out because I have someone I want to gun with. Most of the time they get out, unless they're douche bags, in that case I just spin in circles until they finally bail out. Piloting nubcakes though in place of soloing will at least help them get better, and then eventually they can become ub3r as well, some day.
Punisher, the only thing you can do is to just avoid pilots like him. You find someone like him just go do something else, there's no point in getting redlined / TKed all round, which in the end just screws up your stats even more. Find something else to work on, tanking, flying jets, playing infantry, etc...
It doesn't work, it gives you like an extra few seconds. Probably better getting out when he asks you...globefish23 wrote:
Funny.signa wrote:
play as medic. problem solved!ThePunisher_ITA_ wrote:
... HE TEAMKILLED ME in the heli BRINGING me (and just me) out of the map...
Whenever I'm gonna fly with a heli with another player, I play as a Medic, mainly to heal ourselves when hit by armor piercing ammunition.
I have never thought about this side effect against being red-lined though.
Evilhamburglar wrote:
Because, you moron while I've dodged your first solo retard shot, you are then obviously going to turn broadside to me, and if my gunner doesnt TV you then, your stupid twirl wont work. Ive got over 400 hours in chopper, 20K+ driver kills assists, and its safe to say only complete IDIOTS think you can get more kills soloing than with a gunner. When I am up against some solo noob, I have to stop myself from laughing becuase I know how easy its going to be.jord wrote:
What are you trying to say smartass.Hakei wrote:
Lol.
Just lol.
In a 1 v 1 heli dogfight the first tv missle hits if you aren't totally shit. So tell me bf2 master. What advantage does a pair of faggots have over one guy?
As far as redliners go, they can eat a dick. People redline me without knowing me, I have a mic and I almost never miss TV. Fuck those assholes.
Freezer wrote:
Loll.
They have a right to that spot in the chopper as you do, i used to redline back in the day when i actually gave a shit about stats, if i get a really useless gunner i fly back to the carrier and do some crazy spins on the carrier
I could care less about "winning on the internet." Anyways, I would love to see someone soloing get 100+ kills in a round.
And if you redlined me, you wouldn't think it was such a good idea after my jet slammed into you, or that friendly tank blew you up.
But I don't have to worry about such morons, Punisher, if you really want to never get redlined again, become admin for a server you like.
Oh thanks for the karma jord, I can and do solo fine if no one wants to gun.
And if you redlined me, you wouldn't think it was such a good idea after my jet slammed into you, or that friendly tank blew you up.
But I don't have to worry about such morons, Punisher, if you really want to never get redlined again, become admin for a server you like.
Oh thanks for the karma jord, I can and do solo fine if no one wants to gun.
Last edited by Evilhamburglar (2008-09-20 22:17:51)
Redliners are selfish (string of expletives) that ruin the game. Not a complicated concept unless you are one.
Last edited by nukchebi0 (2008-09-20 22:54:21)
I agree, but then this argument is about two people who can't have fun at the same time, there is no right or wrong answer, every answer will benefit one and hurt the other.nukchebi0 wrote:
Redliners are selfish assholes that ruin the game. Not a complicated concept unless you are one.
That is true.
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