BF2S Forums This is pretty damn pathetic.....Wounded soldier refused a hotel room.

FFS lowing, change your tune please.

Pick something worthwhile to whinge about, like the colour of the top traffic light!

Muslims are taking over the UK, the poor should be taxed higher than the rich, Bush is my hero, all your threads are the same.

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yeah Cam, they took on the responsibility of educating you and keep you from getting the sniffles. As far as th egun thing goes, it is more than just them keeping them from, they have taken away your right to CHOOSE. Which is basically my point. Your govt. chooses for you. Not a way I wanna live. Thanks anyway.

Enjoy the right to live in a society where everybody, especially criminals, carry an instrument of death. I'll enjoy the fruits of my education.

so will the lazy.

Braddock wrote:

3. Ask Cameronpoe how he feels about being 'raped' by our socialist Government... he's doing pretty well for himself.

Or ask me. My socialist commie Govt. has paid to put me through uni provided I pay it back once I start earning a higher salary upon graduation. They just take a small portion per year until it's paid off. And it's a completely interest free loan too, paid by tax payers.

But I guess I really should have earnt the right to higher education, with rich parents to support me.

Right, lowing?

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

1. Sounds great, except I do not believe in forcing people to pay for others shitty decisions in life
2.  see 1.
3. You may have extra money lying around, you seem to rape enough of your citizens to pay for everyone's life.

Gun ownership is about choice and freedom, you can or can choose not to, the point being I decide what I want to not the govt.

1. So a state providing everyone with a good education system is forcing people to pay for other's shitty decisions in life? Mmmmm.
2. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
3. Ask Cameronpoe how he feels about being 'raped' by our socialist Government... he's doing pretty well for himself.

1. The tax payer has been burdened with carrying your ass you bet.

2. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

3. I do not have to ask, Cam is being well taken care of by big brother, coddling him and protecting him from failure at the expense of everyone else.

lowing wrote:

3. I do not have to ask, Cam is being well taken care of by big brother, coddling him and protecting him from failure at the expense of everyone else.

That's funny - I didn't realise that being coddled entailed earning a big fat salary and paying my rent, taxes and dues. Coddling ftw! You should thank me for propping up your economy - the amount of money I spent in NY and MA last month...

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lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yeah Cam, they took on the responsibility of educating you and keep you from getting the sniffles. As far as th egun thing goes, it is more than just them keeping them from, they have taken away your right to CHOOSE. Which is basically my point. Your govt. chooses for you. Not a way I wanna live. Thanks anyway.

Enjoy the right to live in a society where everybody, especially criminals, carry an instrument of death. I'll enjoy the fruits of my education.

so will the lazy.

Hmm i think this whole argument comes down to Cam/Braddock seeing life and welfare of others as more important. Where as, lowing sees money as more important.

seriously thats what it comes down to.

lowing wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing wrote:

so will the lazy.

Hmm i think this whole argument comes down to Cam/Braddock seeing life and welfare of others as more important. Where as, lowing sees money as more important.

seriously thats what it comes down to.

sorry you see it that way, I already explained several pages ago what "it comes down to" and was completely ignored by both Cam and Braddock, they choose to only brow beat an issue that is not even true, that I refuse to want to take care of people. It seems you blindly buy into their bullshit as well.

Coming from the pro at ignoring peoples points and pro bullshit artist.... nice....

lowing wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing wrote:

sorry you see it that way, I already explained several pages ago what "it comes down to" and was completely ignored by both Cam and Braddock, they choose to only brow beat an issue that is not even true, that I refuse to want to take care of people. It seems you blindly buy into their bullshit as well.

Coming from the pro at ignoring peoples points and pro bullshit artist.... nice....

I have not backed down from an argument, if I missed a post of yours let me know  I will address it. Please keep in mind however, NOT agreeing with a post is NOT ignoring one or not listening.

I dont beleive u have to agree... mabye its just me but ive noticed if theres something in a post that u either have no answer for or dont like the answer... u just concentrate on the other parts of the post and never address the issue.

But oh well. im not gonna start a shit slinging contest.

EDIT: oh and its no specific post of mine just in general

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lowing wrote:

Just like I said, protected from failure, just like a big brother is supoosed to do.

I like how you portray 'protection from failure' as a bad thing, as if it's in your interest for those on the breadline to fail. lol. Your complete absence of humanity and lack of realisation that your interest intersects with the interest of the whole - as part of a national economy - is bewildering.

Let's look at the situation then. Unemployment level - similar. Free healthcare for all - only here. Free tertiary education for all - only here. Lower taxes for those nearer to the breadline - similar. GDP per head (at purchasing power parity) - similar. Availability of luxury goods and services - similar. Hmmm.

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CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

Just like I said, protected from failure, just like a big brother is supoosed to do.

I like how you portray 'protection from failure' as a bad thing, as if it's in your interest for those on the breadline to fail. lol. Your complete absence of humanity and lack of realisation that your interest intersects with the interest of the whole - as part of a national economy - is bewildering.

Let's look at the situation then. Unemployment level - similar. Free healthcare for all - only here. Free tertiary education for all - only here. Lower taxes for those nearer to the breadline - similar. GDP per head (at purchasing power parity) - similar. Availability of luxury goods and services - similar. Hmmm.

I have already posted my problems with big govt. and govt. intervention/involvment into my life Cam, if you want go back and address it, if not we will agree to disagree. You want big brother looking after you, I do not plain and simple.

Cameras watching your every move.....only there

Refusal to allow private citizens the right to defend themselves.....only there

So even with govt, hand holding, you still have a similar unemployment level? How sad. Well at least you are willing/forced to cover their expenses as well. No sense in ALL of you needing to contribute with the amount of money your govt. takes from those that do.

lowing wrote:

I have already posted my problems with big govt. and govt. intervention/involvment into my life Cam, if you want go back and address it, if not we will agree to disagree. You want big brother looking after you, I do not plain and simple.

We have to agree to disagree. You're overstating the amount of intervention the government has in our lives over here as compared against yours. All it amounts to is a difference in the percentage of your salary our government takes as compared against yours for the provision of a wider raft of public services, in the interests of all citizens - society as a whole - as voted for by the citizen.

lowing wrote:

Cameras watching your every move.....only there

Rich coming from the land of the illegal wiretaps.

lowing wrote:

Refusal to allow private citizens the right to defend themselves.....only there

The absence of guns in our society is a good thing. Last I hear I wasn't prevented from bludgeoning someone with whatever I find to hand in the event of a home invasion (one where the intruder is likely to have 0.001% chance of having a gun).

lowing wrote:

So even with govt, hand holding, you still have a similar unemployment level? How sad. Well at least you are willing/forced to cover their expenses as well. No sense in ALL of you needing to contribute with the amount of money your govt. takes from those that do.

It's not really that sad - yours is the model that is supposed to work perfectly efficiently: the fact being it is only marginally better in the unemployment stakes than over here. Hmmm. And there was I thinking everybody in socialist countries were lazy...

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CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

I have already posted my problems with big govt. and govt. intervention/involvment into my life Cam, if you want go back and address it, if not we will agree to disagree. You want big brother looking after you, I do not plain and simple.

We have to agree to disagree. You're overstating the amount of intervention the government has in our lives over here as compared against yours. All it amounts to is a difference in the percentage of your salary our government takes as compared against yours for the provision of a wider raft of public services, in the interests of all citizens - society as a whole - as voted for by the citizen.

lowing wrote:

Cameras watching your every move.....only there

Rich coming from the land of the illegal wiretaps.

lowing wrote:

Refusal to allow private citizens the right to defend themselves.....only there

The absence of guns in our society is a good thing. Last I hear I wasn't prevented from bludgeoning someone with whatever I find to hand in the event of a home invasion (one where the intruder is likely to have 0.001% chance of having a gun).

lowing wrote:

So even with govt, hand holding, you still have a similar unemployment level? How sad. Well at least you are willing/forced to cover their expenses as well. No sense in ALL of you needing to contribute with the amount of money your govt. takes from those that do.

It's not really that sad - yours is the model that is supposed to work perfectly efficiently: the fact being it is only marginally better in the unemployment stakes than over here. Hmmm. And there was I thinking everybody in socialist countries were lazy...

1. agree to disagree, for me the price is too high for a big brother security blanket.

2. Wire taps on our enemies, yeah pretty outragous

3. I would rather shoot the fucker, but hey I guess being beaten to death with a cricket bat is more humane.

4. Nope, our system is not perfect. Innocent deserving people probably slip through the cracks and do not get what they should. Also more going to the innocent and deserving is sacrificed while lazy leeches sponge the money that should be earmarked for them. Didn't say you were all lazy, I said it is sad that with all your free coddling you still have just as many lazy as we do here.

lowing wrote:

1. agree to disagree, for me the price is too high for a big brother security blanket.

Fair enough.

lowing wrote:

2. Wire taps on our enemies, yeah pretty outragous

Suspected enemies. We don't have secret lists where senators are on airline 'watch lists'. lol

lowing wrote:

3. I would rather shoot the fucker, but hey I guess being beaten to death with a cricket bat is more humane.

Unless he shoots you first.

lowing wrote:

4. Nope, our system is not perfect. Innocent deserving people probably slip through the cracks and do not get what they should. Also more going to the innocent and deserving is sacrificed while lazy leeches sponge the money that should be earmarked for them. Didn't say you were all lazy, I said it is sad that with all your free coddling you still have just as many lazy as we do here.

Neither is our system perfect. Your assertion was that everybody would be 'sucking the teet of the state' in our system whereas the level is not that much more than in a state where there is no teet to suck. You implied 'free coddling' drove laziness.

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