DBBrinson1 wrote:
TrueMusou wrote:
I mean, as a red blooded, beef loving American, I like guns and war movies just as much as the next guy.
But seriously, as regular civilians, we do not need an extensive arsenal sitting under our pillows. The 2nd Amendment was written at a time where local militias were necessary, nowadays the ownership of guns has created more problems than it has solved.
I think it's fair. The argument for most people is that we have guns for self-defense/home-defense. According to what you listed above, it does not exclude shot-guns. For the purpose of self/home-defense shotguns are the most effective anyways. If you're a hunter, you're in the free according the the proposed, just as long as you're not hunting with automatic machine guns.
Wha? Who are you to say how many guns I can own? I thought Senators took and Oath to defend and uphold the Constitution... Not distort ignor it. Actually if you research it, you'll see that you're wrong. When the civilized law abiding populace is armed, there is a drop crime.
Man am I glad the gun laws don't reflect your stance.
WRONG
#8 United States: 80.0645 per 1,000 people
#9 Netherlands: 79.5779 per 1,000 people
#10 South Africa: 77.1862 per 1,000 people
#11 Germany: 75.9996 per 1,000 people
#12 Canada: 75.4921 per 1,000 people
#13 Norway: 71.8639 per 1,000 people
#14 France: 62.1843 per 1,000 people
#15 Seychelles: 52.9265 per 1,000 people
#16 Hungary: 44.9763 per 1,000 people
#17 Estonia: 43.3601 per 1,000 people
#18 Czech Republic: 38.2257 per 1,000 people
#19 Italy: 37.9633 per 1,000 people
#20 Switzerland: 36.1864 per 1,000 people
#21 Portugal: 34.3833 per 1,000 people
#22 Slovenia: 33.6236 per 1,000 people
#23 Poland: 32.8573 per 1,000 people
#24 Korea, South: 31.7267 per 1,000 people
O look, the country with guns is higher than the ones without, even former Soviet Block countries have lower crime and they have shit loads of black market guns.
God it annoys me that people use this "excuse" which is WRONG.
If you just said I want guns fair enough, I can think your a fucking moron, but its your choice, but as soon as you try to justify it with a lie, I know that you also know its wrong which makes you an even bigger moron or that your just damn naive.
Last edited by Vilham (2008-09-03 14:33:45)