Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6802|132 and Bush

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It was reported yesterday that the total amount of money owed by UK residents is a higher figure than that of the gross national income – for the second year in a row. The total amount owed by consumers through mortgages, loans and credit cards rose by 7.3% during the year to the end of June to stand at a staggering figure of £1.444 trillion, according to the report by accountants Grant Thornton. However, during the same period, gross domestic product, or GDP, rose by only 5.1% to £1.41 trillion – meaning that personal debt outweighs this figure. As a result, it has been calculated that it would take up until January 2009 to pay off the total debt in the UK from GDP during one calendar year.

These figures are made even more worrying by the fact that this is the second year in which this trend has been reported – showing that the credit crunch has not assisted with the UK debt crisis, despite the tightening of lending criteria it has seen. These figures suggest that the UK economy has a hard struggle ahead if it is to buck this trend.

UK GDP will contract by 0.2 per cent over 2009, according to new analysis.

Capital Economics forecasts the first annual shrinking in the economy since 1991 – with the credit crunch's squeeze on lending knocking the economy into recession.

The economy is also seen to suffer from a slowdown in the eurozone – halting any hopes the low value of sterling would promote demand for exports.

Domestic demand is also expected to suffer.

Jonathan Loynes, chief UK economist at Capital Economics, said: "The upshot is that, after growth of about 1.2 per cent this year, we now expect the UK economy to contract by about 0.2 per cent in 2009. We previously forecast growth of +0.5 per cent.

"This projection is well below the latest consensus forecast of +0.9 per cent."
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It said that reforming the rules to allow a loosening of fiscal policy through increased borrowing in the short term would be misguided at a time when the Government is expected to be in the red to the tune of 3.5 per cent of GDP this year and next, and is set to breach the 40 per cent of GDP ceiling on the national debt set by Gordon Brown from 2009 onwards, according to the fund's forecasts.
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UK economy at '60-year low'
The British Chancellor has given a stark warning - the credit crunch is worse than first thought.

In a frank admission Alistair Darling says the UK's economy is at a 60-year low.

He predicts it will be more profound and last much longer than most people had feared.

It comes after the British Prime Minister Gordon Brown gave assurances that a recovery plan was in place.


Wow, those headlines sound eerily familiar.
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6739|Long Island, New York
That is the greatest fucking expression I've ever seen on a guy...ever.

This is why I always find [unnamed troll]'s America's rants so funny. He says he wants our economy to crash, yet if that happened, Britain goes down as well. As does the world.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6822|London, England
It was bound to happen. The fact that it's a 60 year low reflects the complete failure of the policies of the Labour regime, and it's not just the economy which is hurting from said failure.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6802|132 and Bush

Global Economy.
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jsnipy
...
+3,276|6724|...

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

It was bound to happen. The fact that it's a 60 year low reflects the complete failure of the policies of the Labour regime, and it's not just the economy which is hurting from said failure.
More like a failure in human nature.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6802|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:

That is the greatest fucking expression I've ever seen on a guy...ever.
Considering the way most of us feel, I thought it was pretty accurate .
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KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,978|6833|949

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

That is the greatest fucking expression I've ever seen on a guy...ever.
Considering the way most of us feel, I thought it was pretty accurate .
I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-08-30 14:10:24)

Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6822|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

That is the greatest fucking expression I've ever seen on a guy...ever.
Considering the way most of us feel, I thought it was pretty accurate .
I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?
The Media hype this thing up more than it really is. It's only affecting the people who more or less deserve to be affected because of their short-sightedness and greed.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6802|132 and Bush

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

That is the greatest fucking expression I've ever seen on a guy...ever.
Considering the way most of us feel, I thought it was pretty accurate .
I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?
I bought in October. The only debt I have is my house. "We" was in general terms.
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wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6661|UK

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

It was bound to happen. The fact that it's a 60 year low reflects the complete failure of the policies of the Labour regime, and it's not just the economy which is hurting from said failure.
Did you vote Boris?
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,978|6833|949

Kmarion wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


Considering the way most of us feel, I thought it was pretty accurate .
I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?
I bought in October. The only debt I have is my house. "We" was in general terms.
I know, I just wanted to provide my own perspective.  I don't have a family, don't have credit cards, still enjoy life/living, and don't have financial problems.  There is a very real problem with money supply, asset control, and concentration of capital but the closer to home financial crisis that is seeming to hit the public at-large has not hit me or many of my friends really if at all.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-08-30 14:25:56)

SgtHeihn
Should have ducked
+394|6688|Ham Lake, MN (Fucking Cold)
The funny thing is that people don't realize that a lot of the worlds economy is based on the US economy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
The Great Depression did not only cripple the US economy, it paralyzed the World economy.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6730|Global Command

Kmarion wrote:

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It was reported yesterday that the total amount of money owed by UK residents is a higher figure than that of the gross national income – for the second year in a row. The total amount owed by consumers through mortgages, loans and credit cards rose by 7.3% during the year to the end of June to stand at a staggering figure of £1.444 trillion, according to the report by accountants Grant Thornton. However, during the same period, gross domestic product, or GDP, rose by only 5.1% to £1.41 trillion – meaning that personal debt outweighs this figure. As a result, it has been calculated that it would take up until January 2009 to pay off the total debt in the UK from GDP during one calendar year.

These figures are made even more worrying by the fact that this is the second year in which this trend has been reported – showing that the credit crunch has not assisted with the UK debt crisis, despite the tightening of lending criteria it has seen. These figures suggest that the UK economy has a hard struggle ahead if it is to buck this trend.

UK GDP will contract by 0.2 per cent over 2009, according to new analysis.

Capital Economics forecasts the first annual shrinking in the economy since 1991 – with the credit crunch's squeeze on lending knocking the economy into recession.

The economy is also seen to suffer from a slowdown in the eurozone – halting any hopes the low value of sterling would promote demand for exports.

Domestic demand is also expected to suffer.

Jonathan Loynes, chief UK economist at Capital Economics, said: "The upshot is that, after growth of about 1.2 per cent this year, we now expect the UK economy to contract by about 0.2 per cent in 2009. We previously forecast growth of +0.5 per cent.

"This projection is well below the latest consensus forecast of +0.9 per cent."
http://i36.tinypic.com/b84rnq.jpg

It said that reforming the rules to allow a loosening of fiscal policy through increased borrowing in the short term would be misguided at a time when the Government is expected to be in the red to the tune of 3.5 per cent of GDP this year and next, and is set to breach the 40 per cent of GDP ceiling on the national debt set by Gordon Brown from 2009 onwards, according to the fund's forecasts.
http://i38.tinypic.com/10dvel0.jpg

UK economy at '60-year low'
The British Chancellor has given a stark warning - the credit crunch is worse than first thought.

In a frank admission Alistair Darling says the UK's economy is at a 60-year low.

He predicts it will be more profound and last much longer than most people had feared.

It comes after the British Prime Minister Gordon Brown gave assurances that a recovery plan was in place.


Wow, those headlines sound eerily familiar.
I encourage everyone one to do as I have done; say fuck you to credit.

Take those cards that are charging 30%+ in interest and just stop paying them.

Yes, your credit will be jacked, but who cares?
Do you want to be enslaved?


When they adopt terms that are sane, pay them. Until then, let the banks fold, fuck them and their fees and interest.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

That is the greatest fucking expression I've ever seen on a guy...ever.
Considering the way most of us feel, I thought it was pretty accurate .
I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?
Wow, you sure sound like you were "lucky". Or did you get off your ass and go out and MAKE a living?
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,978|6833|949

lowing wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


Considering the way most of us feel, I thought it was pretty accurate .
I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?
Wow, you sure sound like you were "lucky". Or did you get off your ass and go out and MAKE a living?
What do you think?

And guess what?  I have no problem whatsoever with some of my hard-earned money going to welfare and other social services.  I must have stumbled off the kibbutz.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6730|Global Command

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:


I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?
Wow, you sure sound like you were "lucky". Or did you get off your ass and go out and MAKE a living?
What do you think?

And guess what?  I have no problem whatsoever with some of my hard-earned money going to welfare and other social services.  I must have stumbled off the kibbutz.
Talk to me after five years of going it alone, then we'll see how you feel.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,978|6833|949

ATG wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:


Wow, you sure sound like you were "lucky". Or did you get off your ass and go out and MAKE a living?
What do you think?

And guess what?  I have no problem whatsoever with some of my hard-earned money going to welfare and other social services.  I must have stumbled off the kibbutz.
Talk to me after five years of going it alone, then we'll see how you feel.
I've been "going it alone" for close to 7 years now.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:


I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?
Wow, you sure sound like you were "lucky". Or did you get off your ass and go out and MAKE a living?
What do you think?

And guess what?  I have no problem whatsoever with some of my hard-earned money going to welfare and other social services.  I must have stumbled off the kibbutz.
guess what, I have no problem whatsoever with some of my hard-earned money going to...........THOSE THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO HELP THEMSELVES.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,978|6833|949

Neither do I.  You think I feel good about people who do nothing for themselves or people they are responsible for?

Give me a break dumbass.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Neither do I.  You think I feel good about people who do nothing for themselves or people they are responsible for?

Give me a break dumbass.
Well all I can go on is how you argue against me, and since I have ALWAYS maintained a belief that we should take care of those that are un-able, instead of taking care of EVERYBODY, and you are always arguing against me. Yeah I pretty much drew a straight line to your extreme left, why can't we all just get along, and tolerate, and understand one another, disolve all national identity cumbiyah bullshit.


I dunno, I guess we just have different opinions as to who deserves help. I say the disabled and children...and you say, everyone. Let the rich do it, that should be fair.

Last edited by lowing (2008-08-30 15:46:13)

ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6675|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


Considering the way most of us feel, I thought it was pretty accurate .
I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?
The Media hype this thing up more than it really is. It's only affecting the people who more or less deserve to be affected because of their short-sightedness and greed.
WTF! Its affecting my family because of crippling pay cuts, do we deserve it? They have a mortgage that they COULD afford easily along with everything else until a pay cut came along so dont go assuming that ey...
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

ELITE-UK wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:


I don't have a credit card to cut up.  The only debt I have is related to car payments.  I'm looking to buy a house next year.  Just got about a 15% raise.  Life is good for me.  What financial crisis?
The Media hype this thing up more than it really is. It's only affecting the people who more or less deserve to be affected because of their short-sightedness and greed.
WTF! Its affecting my family because of crippling pay cuts, do we deserve it? They have a mortgage that they COULD afford easily along with everything else until a pay cut came along so dont go assuming that ey...
Is this the wrong time to point out that the pay cuts you are referring to come from a job that does not BELONG to you but to your employer? If your employer feels the job is not worth the current pay then he has every right to cut the pay. IF you CHOOSE not to continue to work for that pay, you have the RIGHT FREEDOM and PRIVILEGE of seeking different employment that agrees with what you think you are worth.
ELITE-UK
Scratching my back
+170|6675|SHEFFIELD, ENGLAND

lowing wrote:

ELITE-UK wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:


The Media hype this thing up more than it really is. It's only affecting the people who more or less deserve to be affected because of their short-sightedness and greed.
WTF! Its affecting my family because of crippling pay cuts, do we deserve it? They have a mortgage that they COULD afford easily along with everything else until a pay cut came along so dont go assuming that ey...
Is this the wrong time to point out that the pay cuts you are referring to come from a job that does not BELONG to you but to your employer? If your employer feels the job is not worth the current pay then he has every right to cut the pay. IF you CHOOSE not to continue to work for that pay, you have the RIGHT FREEDOM and PRIVILEGE of seeking different employment that agrees with what you think you are worth.
I'm not going to argue, i was just saying what i felt.
topthrill05
Member
+125|6779|Rochester NY USA
If the human race as a whole was anywhere near intelligent there wouldn't be a credit crisis because people would see though the bad loans and wouldn't of borrowed more then they could pay back.

But the real issue for the US is the 180k that we all owe thanks to our great government.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6967|UK
Tbh people that are spending outside of there means are incredibly short sighted.

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