Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6798|132 and Bush

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080829/ap_ … ternet_cap

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The cable giant has decided that its users only need a certain amount of Internet traffic each month, and when they hit the limit, their customers can party like it’s 1989.  Starting October 1, Comcast switches to a shortage economy on Internet usage:
Comcast Corp., the nation’s second-largest Internet service provider, Thursday said it would set an official limit on the amount of data subscribers can download and upload each month.

    On Oct. 1, the cable company will update its user agreement to say that users will be allowed 250 gigabytes of traffic per month, the company announced on its Web site.

    Comcast has already reserved the right to cut off subscribers who use too much bandwidth each month, without specifying exactly what constitutes excessive use.
Granted, a 250 GB cap will restrict few people on the network.  Comcast points out that a user could download four feature-length films each day and not run afoul of the cap.  They expect few actual confrontations over the limitation, and they plan to counsel customers who come close to disconnection.

However, the entire notion seems a little strange, especially as prices keep falling on the technology needed to build infrastructure for delivery.  Comcast offers a good price on their connection, but they’re hardly losing money, and the economy of scale favors the largest providers.   Telco providers don’t penalize customers for making too many local calls, and that’s arguably more of a resource issue than broadband Internet.  It looks like a Net Neutrality-friendly way of putting the lid on P2P and file-swapping users.

This change will further impact Comcast’s perception in the marketplace as a capricious and arbitrary provider and lower trust in its brand among the users they need to attract.  One has to wonder whether this policy based on shortage really reflects a cost issue or just the turf-protecting impulse found within big corporations.  At the very least, it makes Comcast look paternalistic and condescending — and cheap.
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6818|London, England
Wait wait, 250GB a month? That's way more than what some ISP's provide here. Way more. I don't get it, what's the problem? 250GB is a truckload and more.

FYI, my internats is unlimited

Downloading Sopranos right now @ 620KB/s

Last edited by Mek-Stizzle (2008-08-29 10:33:37)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6798|132 and Bush

The 1990's called.. they want their limited internet back.
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6818|London, England
If anything, the 90's had no limits and more and more ISP's are turning towards limits. Take AOL for example, back in 2003/4, none of their packages had limits. Just speed caps (512kbit, 1Mbit etc..)

Nowadays, last time I checked, most of AOL's packages have download limits. Small ones too, smaller than 250GB. Same for BT, same for nearly every ISP out there.

ISP's are up there with Oil Corporations on the list of things I wouldn't mind seeing blown up.

Last edited by Mek-Stizzle (2008-08-29 10:36:50)

Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6636|King Of The Islands

inb4aussies
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6798|132 and Bush

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

If anything, the 90's had no limits and more and more ISP's are turning towards limits. Take AOL for example, back in 2003/4, none of their packages had limits. Just speed caps (512kbit, 1Mbit etc..)
What's wrong with this?



They had limits on time, not bandwidth also.
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6818|London, England

Kmarion wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

If anything, the 90's had no limits and more and more ISP's are turning towards limits. Take AOL for example, back in 2003/4, none of their packages had limits. Just speed caps (512kbit, 1Mbit etc..)
What's wrong with this?
Nothing's wrong with that, what's wrong is that they've gone from unlimited to download caps. Which is gay. Also, it's not 250GB, but like......much less. Well it was last time I checked

They're all doing it, not just Comcast, and they're doing it worse than Comcast too
NateW
my sigs worse than yours
+191|6330
Just for reading this thread Comcast will cut off my subscription.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6380|Ireland
This will really hurt the creepy old guys in trailor parks that sit in front of their computer flicking their noodle watching porn all day long.  My heart goes out to them.

Comcast hates self love making, and hate is bad.  I must now go sell my stock in KY jelly before it "bottoms" out.
jord
Member
+2,382|6875|The North, beyond the wall.
Can't you download from torrents when you get a cap?

I'm on AOL and have downloaded mods/games/films and never had a problem.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6798|132 and Bush

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

If anything, the 90's had no limits and more and more ISP's are turning towards limits. Take AOL for example, back in 2003/4, none of their packages had limits. Just speed caps (512kbit, 1Mbit etc..)
What's wrong with this?
Nothing's wrong with that, what's wrong is that they've gone from unlimited to download caps. Which is gay. Also, it's not 250GB, but like......much less. Well it was last time I checked

They're all doing it, not just Comcast, and they're doing it worse than Comcast too
You referenced 2003 as an example for the 90's. Give me more examples (with major ISP's). There aren't any in my area. It's too competitive. Comcast is going backwards.

<3 my fios.
https://www.speedtest.net/result/284328080.png
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6798|132 and Bush

jord wrote:

Can't you download from torrents when you get a cap?

I'm on AOL and have downloaded mods/games/films and never had a problem.
And AOL has always been the exception to "exceptional service". Even they get it now.
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jord
Member
+2,382|6875|The North, beyond the wall.

Kmarion wrote:

jord wrote:

Can't you download from torrents when you get a cap?

I'm on AOL and have downloaded mods/games/films and never had a problem.
And AOL has always been the exception to "exceptional service". Even they get it now.
Only problem I got with AOL is the customer service. I assume most countries use India for call centres though anyway.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6846

Kmarion wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


What's wrong with this?
Nothing's wrong with that, what's wrong is that they've gone from unlimited to download caps. Which is gay. Also, it's not 250GB, but like......much less. Well it was last time I checked

They're all doing it, not just Comcast, and they're doing it worse than Comcast too
You referenced 2003 as an example for the 90's. Give me more examples (with major ISP's). There aren't any in my area. It's too competitive. Comcast is going backwards.

<3 my fios.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/284328080.png
What do you pay for that connection?
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6380|Ireland
Clearwire will put comcast out of bussiness
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6798|132 and Bush

ghettoperson wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:


Nothing's wrong with that, what's wrong is that they've gone from unlimited to download caps. Which is gay. Also, it's not 250GB, but like......much less. Well it was last time I checked

They're all doing it, not just Comcast, and they're doing it worse than Comcast too
You referenced 2003 as an example for the 90's. Give me more examples (with major ISP's). There aren't any in my area. It's too competitive. Comcast is going backwards.

<3 my fios.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/284328080.png
What do you pay for that connection?
$70 something. My HOA gets me a deal .
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ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6846

Not bad.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6798|132 and Bush

ghettoperson wrote:

Not bad.
Normally it's $120 (50/20). They are about to offer a 100/50. That's more than I need. You can only go as fast as the other server you are connected to.
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CaptainSpaulding71
Member
+119|6554|CA, USA
is there a way to determine how much you use today?  is there some file or website that you can lookup your monthly quota you have used so far?  i'm curious how much i actually use.  i work from home alot using VPN and play BF2 online quite a bit (probably 10-15 hours per week).  no movie downloading.  no music downloading.  i'm sure i'm nowhere near the limit, but i'm just curious how much i use.  any thoughts?
Rando_the_commando
Member
+1|6438
Just install some monitoring software, like [url=http://www.rokario.com/products/bandmon/2-0/]this[/url] or [url=http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/nsl.htm]this[/url]. I pay about $40/month for a 25 GB cap and top speeds of 1Mb D, 256Kb U. I wish someone offered affordable fios connections around here.
13rin
Member
+977|6676
Ah....  Comcast is setting it's users up for a tiered pricing system...  Those bastards.  I'm paying for an 8mb connection but only getting 4 at peak times with spotty connection.  When all else around aren't sucking up bandwith I'll pull in 15-20MB downloads with 3MB uploads...
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Volatile
Member
+252|6901|Sextupling in Empire

Kmarion wrote:

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

What's wrong with this?
Nothing's wrong with that, what's wrong is that they've gone from unlimited to download caps. Which is gay. Also, it's not 250GB, but like......much less. Well it was last time I checked

They're all doing it, not just Comcast, and they're doing it worse than Comcast too
You referenced 2003 as an example for the 90's. Give me more examples (with major ISP's). There aren't any in my area. It's too competitive. Comcast is going backwards.

<3 my fios.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/284328080.png
Holy hell, that is some fast internets.

Verizon sons of bitches wrote:

Verizon FiOS Internet Service is not currently available for your address.






https://www.speedtest.net/result/315636875.png

Oh well, guess I'll stick with this crappy line.

*I would assume there are other providers in the area? If their service goes down the drain, people will just end up flocking to a ISP that will handle their needs. Comcast will probably not have any issues though, as most individuals don't even do anything with their internet other than web surfing/youtube/download music.

Last edited by Volatile (2008-08-29 13:00:37)

NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6539|Atlanta, Georgia
Is this really a big deal? I mean the whole idea of limiting my internet pisses me off but will i ever use that much a month?

https://www.speedtest.net/result/296049234.png

CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6767|Portland, OR, USA
I have comcast at home.. and I thought it was fast...


....here at college, I was downloading updates at 6.0 Mb/s
jsnipy
...
+3,276|6719|...

I hate the idea that they state a limit, but aside from hosting a heavy operation out of your house I would be hard to hit 250GB a month. Good thing I got rid of them

Last edited by jsnipy (2008-08-30 09:26:45)

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