lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yeah I get it, flipping burgers at McDonalds for beer and gas money for the weekend can really put a strain on a person.
Again, thinking you know everything. Now that I've basically owned you out of this argument, you've got to resort to insults. How so typical of you, lowing!

I work at a movie theatre, for your information.

What exactly do you do? Sit on your ass and troll internet forums all day?


Finally, someone sensible. Honestly, if I don't mind paying more for taxes. It's really not that big of a deal to me.
Oh, a movie theater well that is different.

Honestly I commend you for getting out and getting a job, but if you really really think that working at a theater ripping ticket stubs and popping popcorn resembles what you are in for when you are out on your own then you are in for a rude awakening.

Nope, I do not troll internet forums, I come to this ONE and this ONE alone. I am in Iraq away from my family fixing helicopters ( I know I know, it ain't as glamourous as cleaning a movie theater bathroom and nowhere near the responsibility but it is fun), so basically when I am not working, working out, or eating, or sleeping, I am here killing time.


...........and if you do not mind paying more taxes then you deserve your job.
I'm sorry if my $8 teenage job isn't glamourous for you, lowing. I'm sorry that I'm not in college yet and even though I'm graduating early from high school, that's not glamourous enough for you. I guess I don't exemplify the "american dream" for you. You should actually try commending me for getting a job at all and not becoming a typical teenager by throwing my life away by partying instead of insulting the one job I could barely get due to the economy that is in shambles during the administration of a CONSERVATIVE.

Where did I say I expect it to be like what my future life's going to be? I also expect my future income to be just a bit higher than my current one, especially considering I'm joining the military. Kthx.
Hmmm, I think I did commend for you getting a job, if you read back however, it was you calling me ignorant and sitting on a perch. A perch as it turns out isn't so high after all. I congratulate you on joinging the military as well, do yourself a favor and pick a career that can be used as a civilian.

Just do me a favor do tell me how ignorant you think I am when you have not even been on your own t oknow what you are really talking about yet. Also, if you are going into the military, you better start thinking like a Republican if you even expect a pay raise. Recent History shows, democrats hate the military and do not support them IE no funding, IE no rasies.

But like you said, you don't mind paying more taxes anyway.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6536|Long Island, New York

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:


Oh, a movie theater well that is different.

Honestly I commend you for getting out and getting a job, but if you really really think that working at a theater ripping ticket stubs and popping popcorn resembles what you are in for when you are out on your own then you are in for a rude awakening.

Nope, I do not troll internet forums, I come to this ONE and this ONE alone. I am in Iraq away from my family fixing helicopters ( I know I know, it ain't as glamourous as cleaning a movie theater bathroom and nowhere near the responsibility but it is fun), so basically when I am not working, working out, or eating, or sleeping, I am here killing time.


...........and if you do not mind paying more taxes then you deserve your job.
I'm sorry if my $8 teenage job isn't glamourous for you, lowing. I'm sorry that I'm not in college yet and even though I'm graduating early from high school, that's not glamourous enough for you. I guess I don't exemplify the "american dream" for you. You should actually try commending me for getting a job at all and not becoming a typical teenager by throwing my life away by partying instead of insulting the one job I could barely get due to the economy that is in shambles during the administration of a CONSERVATIVE.

Where did I say I expect it to be like what my future life's going to be? I also expect my future income to be just a bit higher than my current one, especially considering I'm joining the military. Kthx.
Hmmm, I think I did commend for you getting a job, if you read back however, it was you calling me ignorant and sitting on a perch. A perch as it turns out isn't so high after all. I congratulate you on joinging the military as well, do yourself a favor and pick a career that can be used as a civilian.

Just do me a favor do tell me how ignorant you think I am when you have not even been on your own t oknow what you are really talking about yet. Also, if you are going into the military, you better start thinking like a Republican if you even expect a pay raise. Recent History shows, democrats hate the military and do not support them IE no funding, IE no rasies.

But like you said, you don't mind paying more taxes anyway.
I am. Air Force. Pilot.

I'm not going to bring my political ideals into the military. I'm going to fight for my country and follow orders. That's it.

And no, I don't mind paying taxes. That's right.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6714
On a side note... the article said the homeless guys need and address to get mail... and vote... how are they going to do that?
And i'm not making fun of them... just wondering...?


"An opinion written by then Attorney General Bill Pryor, said as long as a homeless person can identify a place where they can receive mail, and it's a place within a voting precinct, they can vote.

George Noblin, chairman of the Montgomery County Board of Registrars, said the rationale behind needing an address to
vote is so that his office will know how to contact the person.

"We have to have a good address so once they register we can send them their voter identification card," he said. "It tells them where to go vote.""

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2008-08-19 21:51:43)

Love is the answer
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6462|meh-land

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

On a side note... the article said the homeless guys need and address to get mail... and vote... how are they going to do that?
And i'm not making fun of them... just wondering...?
well i'd assume the homeless shelter would provide them with some form of mailing address
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

Kmarion wrote:

lowing wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

If I were homeless, and I watched the GOP hand out record money to foreign nationals, I'd certainly vote for a candidate who has promised to focus more on our domestic problems.
If you were homeless, you have more personal issues to worry about like getting off your dead ass and pay your own way instead of watching to see who will be president to pay it for you.
It must really be tough living in your hate filled world. You pass judgment on a whim without ever considering individual circumstance. Way to skirt the whole fact that the current Republican administration has been passing out "hand outs" to people who aren't even citizens of this country. It seems you've got some real soul searching to do if that's your primary beef.
Nope, my "primary beef" is national security all the way down to last on my list, helping those that refuse to help themselves and instead, vote for whoever will GIVE them the most.

  Taking my money fromm me and dispersing out to the masses is not judgment it is FACT, and yeah I hate it.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6536|Long Island, New York

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

On a side note... the article said the homeless guys need and address to get mail... and vote... how are they going to do that?
And i'm not making fun of them... just wondering...?


"An opinion written by then Attorney General Bill Pryor, said as long as a homeless person can identify a place where they can receive mail, and it's a place within a voting precinct, they can vote.

George Noblin, chairman of the Montgomery County Board of Registrars, said the rationale behind needing an address to
vote is so that his office will know how to contact the person.

"We have to have a good address so once they register we can send them their voter identification card," he said. "It tells them where to go vote.""
Cardboard Box
Corner of 5th and 42nd
New York, New York
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


I'm sorry if my $8 teenage job isn't glamourous for you, lowing. I'm sorry that I'm not in college yet and even though I'm graduating early from high school, that's not glamourous enough for you. I guess I don't exemplify the "american dream" for you. You should actually try commending me for getting a job at all and not becoming a typical teenager by throwing my life away by partying instead of insulting the one job I could barely get due to the economy that is in shambles during the administration of a CONSERVATIVE.

Where did I say I expect it to be like what my future life's going to be? I also expect my future income to be just a bit higher than my current one, especially considering I'm joining the military. Kthx.
Hmmm, I think I did commend for you getting a job, if you read back however, it was you calling me ignorant and sitting on a perch. A perch as it turns out isn't so high after all. I congratulate you on joinging the military as well, do yourself a favor and pick a career that can be used as a civilian.

Just do me a favor do tell me how ignorant you think I am when you have not even been on your own t oknow what you are really talking about yet. Also, if you are going into the military, you better start thinking like a Republican if you even expect a pay raise. Recent History shows, democrats hate the military and do not support them IE no funding, IE no rasies.

But like you said, you don't mind paying more taxes anyway.
I am. Air Force. Pilot.

I'm not going to bring my political ideals into the military. I'm going to fight for my country and follow orders. That's it.

And no, I don't mind paying taxes. That's right.
Now, I really commend you. But be fore-warned as a pilot you stand to make a lot of money, money you will work hard for and I promise you, you will not want to give away as freely as you claim you do now. You will take the attitude that you worked for it, so can everyone else.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6536|Long Island, New York

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:


Hmmm, I think I did commend for you getting a job, if you read back however, it was you calling me ignorant and sitting on a perch. A perch as it turns out isn't so high after all. I congratulate you on joinging the military as well, do yourself a favor and pick a career that can be used as a civilian.

Just do me a favor do tell me how ignorant you think I am when you have not even been on your own t oknow what you are really talking about yet. Also, if you are going into the military, you better start thinking like a Republican if you even expect a pay raise. Recent History shows, democrats hate the military and do not support them IE no funding, IE no rasies.

But like you said, you don't mind paying more taxes anyway.
I am. Air Force. Pilot.

I'm not going to bring my political ideals into the military. I'm going to fight for my country and follow orders. That's it.

And no, I don't mind paying taxes. That's right.
Now, I really commend you. But be fore-warned as a pilot you stand to make a lot of money, money you will work hard for and I promise you, you will not want to give away as freely as you claim you do now. You will take the attitude that you worked for it, so can everyone else.
...well thank you, but I already work pretty hard and have to give some of it away, and honestly I really just don't mind that much. Because I realize it's simply part of our society.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6599|132 and Bush

lowing wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

lowing wrote:

If you were homeless, you have more personal issues to worry about like getting off your dead ass and pay your own way instead of watching to see who will be president to pay it for you.
It must really be tough living in your hate filled world. You pass judgment on a whim without ever considering individual circumstance. Way to skirt the whole fact that the current Republican administration has been passing out "hand outs" to people who aren't even citizens of this country. It seems you've got some real soul searching to do if that's your primary beef.
Nope, my "primary beef" is national security all the way down to last on my list, helping those that refuse to help themselves and instead, vote for whoever will GIVE them the most.

  Taking my money fromm me and dispersing out to the masses is not judgment it is FACT, and yeah I hate it.
I'm talking about having a blanket judgment for everyone (dead ass), no matter what the circumstance. What should be done to help (if anything at all) is not the same as your assumptions.

Again Mr Liberal hater, what about the record billions the GOP has committed to sub Saharan Africa?

http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_US_Fight … 21427.html

Your hate list should be all inclusive.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


I am. Air Force. Pilot.

I'm not going to bring my political ideals into the military. I'm going to fight for my country and follow orders. That's it.

And no, I don't mind paying taxes. That's right.
Now, I really commend you. But be fore-warned as a pilot you stand to make a lot of money, money you will work hard for and I promise you, you will not want to give away as freely as you claim you do now. You will take the attitude that you worked for it, so can everyone else.
...well thank you, but I already work pretty hard and have to give some of it away, and honestly I really just don't mind that much. Because I realize it's simply part of our society.
I pay my taxes as well, I also feel I pay quite enough. The argument is that I do not make sense because my money is spent overseas in other countries. This might be true, but I view it as money spent for our national security. This gives all of us the FREEDOM to succeed or FAIL as will. This more of an investment into our country than giving it away to someone who sees no need to earn it.
Blehm98
conservative hatemonger
+150|6462|meh-land

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


I am. Air Force. Pilot.

I'm not going to bring my political ideals into the military. I'm going to fight for my country and follow orders. That's it.

And no, I don't mind paying taxes. That's right.
Now, I really commend you. But be fore-warned as a pilot you stand to make a lot of money, money you will work hard for and I promise you, you will not want to give away as freely as you claim you do now. You will take the attitude that you worked for it, so can everyone else.
...well thank you, but I already work pretty hard and have to give some of it away, and honestly I really just don't mind that much. Because I realize it's simply part of our society.
yes, but it will start to bug you once more and more of your paycheck starts to disappear, and all the visible future withholds is progressively higher taxation
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

Kmarion wrote:

lowing wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


It must really be tough living in your hate filled world. You pass judgment on a whim without ever considering individual circumstance. Way to skirt the whole fact that the current Republican administration has been passing out "hand outs" to people who aren't even citizens of this country. It seems you've got some real soul searching to do if that's your primary beef.
Nope, my "primary beef" is national security all the way down to last on my list, helping those that refuse to help themselves and instead, vote for whoever will GIVE them the most.

  Taking my money fromm me and dispersing out to the masses is not judgment it is FACT, and yeah I hate it.
I'm talking about having a blanket judgment for everyone (dead ass), no matter what the circumstance. What should be done to help (if anything at all) is not the same as your assumptions.

Again Mr Liberal hater, what about the record billions the GOP has committed to sub Saharan Africa?

http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_US_Fight … 21427.html

Your hate list should be all inclusive.
Kmarion, you know I have stated many times in many thread my agreement for helping those that help themselves or CAN NOT do so, like the handicapped or children. A dead ass clearly is not in that group. He is in fact a DEAD ASS, An anchor, and should not be pandered to.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6599|132 and Bush

lowing wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

lowing wrote:

Nope, my "primary beef" is national security all the way down to last on my list, helping those that refuse to help themselves and instead, vote for whoever will GIVE them the most.

  Taking my money fromm me and dispersing out to the masses is not judgment it is FACT, and yeah I hate it.
I'm talking about having a blanket judgment for everyone (dead ass), no matter what the circumstance. What should be done to help (if anything at all) is not the same as your assumptions.

Again Mr Liberal hater, what about the record billions the GOP has committed to sub Saharan Africa?

http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_US_Fight … 21427.html

Your hate list should be all inclusive.
Kmarion, you know I have stated many times in many thread my agreement for helping those that help themselves or CAN NOT do so, like the handicapped or children. A dead ass clearly is not in that group. He is in fact a DEAD ASS, An anchor, and should not be pandered to.
Can the handicap vote? My point is both parties are guilty of this. Both in charity and pandering. As a conservative I just felt the need to point out that the neo's currently in office have done the same, if not worse.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6714

Poseidon wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

On a side note... the article said the homeless guys need and address to get mail... and vote... how are they going to do that?
And i'm not making fun of them... just wondering...?


"An opinion written by then Attorney General Bill Pryor, said as long as a homeless person can identify a place where they can receive mail, and it's a place within a voting precinct, they can vote.

George Noblin, chairman of the Montgomery County Board of Registrars, said the rationale behind needing an address to
vote is so that his office will know how to contact the person.

"We have to have a good address so once they register we can send them their voter identification card," he said. "It tells them where to go vote.""
Cardboard Box
Corner of 5th and 42nd
New York, New York
you can get mail there...lol?
Love is the answer
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6650|USA

Kmarion wrote:

lowing wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


I'm talking about having a blanket judgment for everyone (dead ass), no matter what the circumstance. What should be done to help (if anything at all) is not the same as your assumptions.

Again Mr Liberal hater, what about the record billions the GOP has committed to sub Saharan Africa?

http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_US_Fight … 21427.html

Your hate list should be all inclusive.
Kmarion, you know I have stated many times in many thread my agreement for helping those that help themselves or CAN NOT do so, like the handicapped or children. A dead ass clearly is not in that group. He is in fact a DEAD ASS, An anchor, and should not be pandered to.
Can the handicap vote? My point is both parties are guilty of this. Both in charity and pandering. As a conservative I just felt the need to point out that the neo's currently in office have done the same, if not worse.
Can you not see a difference between circumstances beyond your control ( being a child, being handicapped) and taking responsibility for your own shitty descisions that aided you into your shitty life. A life that, if you were so inclined you have FREEDOM and CHOICE to do change?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6599|132 and Bush

lowing wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

lowing wrote:

Kmarion, you know I have stated many times in many thread my agreement for helping those that help themselves or CAN NOT do so, like the handicapped or children. A dead ass clearly is not in that group. He is in fact a DEAD ASS, An anchor, and should not be pandered to.
Can the handicap vote? My point is both parties are guilty of this. Both in charity and pandering. As a conservative I just felt the need to point out that the neo's currently in office have done the same, if not worse.
Can you not see a difference between circumstances beyond your control ( being a child, being handicapped) and taking responsibility for your own shitty descisions that aided you into your shitty life. A life that, if you were so inclined you have FREEDOM and CHOICE to do change?
I can. That is something you did not say. I was supposed to assume that you did not mean those people.

How long are you going to ignore the FACT that this administration has given more money away in entitlements than all others? Airline bailouts, Mortgage bailouts, "stimulus checks", Bush TRIPLED aid to Africa. Your attention is very selective. That is if you truly hate paying taxes.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6527|Global Command

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

lowing wrote:


Now, I really commend you. But be fore-warned as a pilot you stand to make a lot of money, money you will work hard for and I promise you, you will not want to give away as freely as you claim you do now. You will take the attitude that you worked for it, so can everyone else.
...well thank you, but I already work pretty hard and have to give some of it away, and honestly I really just don't mind that much. Because I realize it's simply part of our society.
I pay my taxes as well, I also feel I pay quite enough. The argument is that I do not make sense because my money is spent overseas in other countries. This might be true, but I view it as money spent for our national security. This gives all of us the FREEDOM to succeed or FAIL as will. This more of an investment into our country than giving it away to someone who sees no need to earn it.
We should invest in more schools and roads here and less guns and bombs for there.
PureFodder
Member
+225|6284
So groups are trying to get people that are allowed to vote, to vote?

DAMN THESE TRAITORS TRYING TO DESTROY DEMOCRACY WITH THEIR EVIL LIBERAL WAYS!

Allowing all the PEOPLE to VOTE should pay no part in democracy! It should be one man one vote, unless I personally don't like you for some reason in which case 'no soup vote for you!'
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6409|'Murka

Poseidon wrote:

I'm sorry if my $8 per hour teenage job isn't glamourous for you, lowing. I'm sorry that I'm not in college yet and even though I'm graduating early from high school, that's not glamourous enough for you. I guess I don't exemplify the "american dream" for you. You should actually try commending me for getting a job at all and not becoming a typical teenager by throwing my life away by partying instead of insulting the one job I could barely get due to the economy that is in shambles during the administration of a CONSERVATIVE.

Where did I say I expect it to be like what my future life's going to be? I also expect my future income to be just a bit higher than my current one, especially considering I'm joining the military. Kthx.
Dude, don't EVEN try to refer to Bush as a conservative. He may be socially conservative, but he spends like a drunken sailor. Hardly a fiscal conservative. And with his highly interventionist foreign policies, he's hardly a political conservative by that measure, either.

Plus, there's the whole argument about just how much any given administration actually controls the economy enough to legitimately take the credit (or blame) for its success/failure.

Kudos to you for working 40 hours a week while you're not in school...even more if you're able to hold down 40 hours a week and still keep up your grades once school starts up again. It certainly gives you a slight understanding of what life is like on your own. But I'm guessing you still don't pay: rent/mortgage, property taxes, student loans, college tuition/books/fees, childcare, and many sundry other costs. And that's fine. You're a teenager. Just recognize there is an entire other dimension, financially, once you are out on your own...particularly once you have a family.

I'm thinking that's what lowing's trying to get at in his own special way.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Mint Sauce
Frighteningly average
+780|6285|eng
I'm not going to get involved in this arguement of a thread, but I will say that not all homeless people are homeless through their own fault.

That is all.
#rekt
JahManRed
wank
+646|6626|IRELAND

Not everyone gets a good start in life Lowing.
Did you come from a family were your parents were alcoholics or drug addicts?
Maybe you didn't work for the stable government wage and lost your job when the small company your worked for went under due to the credit crunch and the bank forecloses on your house.
Maybe there is a history of mental illness in your family and you had a mental break down due to money and work pressure and ended up on the street. 

No you didn't. Hence why you are going OK for yourself. Tell me, if those things above happened to you, would it be your fault? Should you not be allowed to vote for someone who promises to get you out of the gutter?

Absolutely shocking stance lowing...............even by your standards. Your credit crunch proof guaranteed (by the rest of your country paying their taxes) wage and security seams to have blinded you to the problems of the average worker who's at the whim of shifting financial trends. I thought that in these tough times you might have a bit of empathy for your fellow citizens.
ReTox
Member
+100|6497|State of RETOXification
I know some homeless PEOPLE from dealings in the community.  Everyone I met tries to get work but there is one thing that makes it near impossible.... and that's not having a phone.

It angers me to no end when people bash on the homeless "get a job you fucking slob!"... yeah if only they had a way to hear that an employer wants to see them.  How the hell do you get a job when you have no place, no phone, no money to have washed clothing, no money to pay for the transportation to and from work, no food?  You need that for any chance of getting of a stable income and getting back on your feet.  Someone who wants to give people a break who truly need it would earn my vote every time.

It's not like most homeless are there by choice.  Most are in circumstances that people here might be able to relate to slightly but in reality would have no fucking clue how to deal with.  Go spend a week on the street and them come back in here and call the homeless "worthless" and "dead".


Astonishing ignorance.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6289|Éire

lowing wrote:

Any wonder why the homeless would be excited to vote for a liberal? Could it have anything to do with taking more money from the EARNERS and dispersing to the Non-earners? To steal from the achievers and disperse it amongst the NON-achievers. After all, the achievers worked for their money, why should the be entitled to it? Vote for Obama and he will bring the needed "change" that will pander to the non-educated, non-ambitious and reward them for their lack of effort. Hell the liberals will even come and get you registered. Yeah I want a president popular with "African Americans" because he is "African American" ( which he isn't) regardless of the issues and popular with the worthless because he will steal more of my money for "fair" disbursement among the masses. All the right reasons to vote for a candidate.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/app … GECAROUSEL

God, I hate liberals
Sounds like you got a Communist on your hands lowing...I think you need to step up and become another one of the great American heroes like Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray or John Wilkes Booth.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6619|London, England
Lowing, who are you to decide who has the right to vote and who doesn't?
Burwhale
Save the BlobFish!
+136|6221|Brisneyland
I dont get it, apart from the first line in the article about the homeless man wanting to vote for Obama, there was absolutely no reference to liberal/Democrats bussing homeless people to the polling booth to vote for them. All this article referred to was a group of people encouraging the homeless to exercise thir democratic right to vote. It didnt say that they were representatives for either party, that was all lowing.

Why would anyone have a problem with allowing a group of people to exercise their right to vote. Would lowing prefer if they removed that particular freedom from the homeless. Hang on , removing peoples freedoms, isnt that what liberals do ( according to lowing). Congratulations lowing you are officially a liberal!

lowing wrote:

Kmarion, you know I have stated many times in many thread my agreement for helping those that help themselves or CAN NOT do so, like the handicapped or children
This is where your argument falls down. You state that you support helping the handicapped, the majority of homeless are mentally handicapped, thats why they live without adequate food/shelter/health standards etc. Not something a sane person would do right!

Personally I dont think you actually believe much of what you post. I think you are getting bored out in the desert and need some attention, even if its negative. Good luck with that. If you are bored, next time try a Suduko or something.

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