BF2S Forums Georgia Not So Innocent - Whether FOX Like It Or Not!

ATG wrote:

If fox is so biased, why did they the ladies 30 seconds to say whatever they wanted?

You can say very little in 30 seconds, could you imagine a debating competition where competitors had to fire in 30 second bursts? What this 30 seconds did was give the illusion of balanced reporting. We'll never know how it might have played out if it were earlier in the show but FOX have been known to cut mics in the past, that much is true.

ATG wrote:

The numbskulls broads wasted 5-10 of those 30 seconds looking at the camera with slack jaws and hints of droll coming from their mouths.

I had presumed that was because of a time delay, there were signs of this earlier in the interview when they were walking on each others words. I didn't notice any drool to be honest, just the hint of a few tears in the eyes of the women whose hometown had been destroyed.

ATG wrote:

This is obviously started by the Georgians, and they are stupid assholes for doing it and thinking we would go to war with Russia over it.

Agreed.

ATG wrote:

Before we try and remove the splinter from Russias eye we need to remove the tree from our own.

Agreed.

ATG wrote:

Unless the expectation is for Russia to bow like dogs when we bomb their former states ( Kosovo ) and deploy " missile shields " in their backyards then the world better prepare for major shit in the Balkans.

Agreed.

ATG wrote:

We act like we can do whatever the hell we feel like. We have been pushy, condescending and belligerent. If I hear one more American politician describe us as the sole super power I will go insane.

Agreed. It's a bit like going around saying you're King of the Tinkers - some people view this as an open challenge!

ATG wrote:

We still have MAD, what the fuck do we care what Russia does to Russians? Georgians were Russian up until a few years ago, were they not?

Well if they're randomly persecuting former Russian states then fair enough people should be asking questions and getting annoyed but what's happening in Georgia is not an unprovoked attack.

So why did Russia have troops in other countries and have them lined up on Georgia's border again?  Why were they lobbing bombs into Georgia periodically and flying jets over their territory?

Same fucking Russia, sticking their dick into other countries bussiness just to create a reason to expand the empire.  Europe will play rope a dope with Russia until it owns them again.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

So why did Russia have troops in other countries and have them lined up on Georgia's border again?  Why were they lobbing bombs into Georgia periodically and flying jets over their territory?

They've had people both on standby for trouble in the region and stationed within the region since the civil war in the nineties, this is not new news. As regards the air strikes, fair enough they can justify them no more than the US can justify their air strikes within Somalia.

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Same fucking America, sticking their dick into other countries business just to create a reason to expand the empire.  Europe will play rope a dope with America until it owns them again.

Fixed...see what I did there!

mtb0minime wrote:

I'll have to side with Fox on this one. The point of the interview was to get a perspective from the little girl, not to let the aunt start rambling off and playing the blame game. Save that for another interview.

So she isn't allowed to speak up? Sounds like lack of democracy in FOX studios.

Kmarion wrote:

Are people really this naive when it comes to how a schedule is kept? If they were trying to dump the lady they wouldn't have had her back on after the break. If that's not good enough tough cheese. Her view was obviously made. If it wasn't made clear and people didn't understand the point she was trying to get across this topic would not exist. It is not practical to rearrange an entire broadcast to revolve around one persons agenda.

They started interrupting her after she started talking in favor of the Russians. Before that there were no interruptions.

Didn't we go through something like this in 1924?

I don't recall the United States getting our panties in a wad, 'course, I wasn't born yet, but...y'know.

.Sup wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Are people really this naive when it comes to how a schedule is kept? If they were trying to dump the lady they wouldn't have had her back on after the break. If that's not good enough tough cheese. Her view was obviously made. If it wasn't made clear and people didn't understand the point she was trying to get across this topic would not exist. It is not practical to rearrange an entire broadcast to revolve around one persons agenda.

They started interrupting her after she started talking in favor of the Russians. Before that there were no interruptions.

The young girl made the point clear before the aunt even starts to talk. She explained that they were attacked by Georgian troops, and thanked Russian troops, saying they had helped, no interruptions. 

  --as has been mentioned, if Fox was trying so hard to push an agenda, none of this would have aired.

ATG wrote:

Didn't we go through something like this in 1924?

I don't recall the United States getting our panties in a wad, 'course, I wasn't born yet, but...y'know.

Wow thats crazy!! This shit between Georgia and Russia has been going on for YEARS!!!

Braddock wrote:

FEOS wrote:

No I'm not claiming that they're making anything up. Hence, no claims in my post of that. Not sure why you would ask it, if I didn't even imply it.

It was just that you stressed the fact that they were South Ossetians as though that in some way detracted from the truth of what they were saying about what happened to them.

Not in any way. The comment was more to the context of the interview and your implication of Fox giving them the bum's rush.

FEOS wrote:

Braddock wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Go see Dilbert. He's got a tinfoil hat you can borrow.

So would FOX run a story about Rupert Murdoch if he were involved in some form of illegal or immoral activity? Don't be naive FEOS, recognising that the almighty dollar trumps all in most big industries does not equate to conspiracy theorising. Big business looks out for those that pay.

I'm not being naive. The conspiracy theory crap comes into play when you imply that oil companies are in league with news outlets to instigate a war they are paying politicians to start so that oil prices can go up and make them more money.

The news outlet not running a story on their boss's illegal activities is a far cry from the scenario you offered up. That scenario is what drove the tinfoil hat quip.

I didn't go as far as you are implying, news stations don't really have the power of launching wars anyhow, they can only create a climate where the people can become accustomed to the idea of war. The big companies would need to have several Government figures in their pocket for the conspiracy theory to have any ground...a big company like Haliburton for example.

Don't worry FEOS I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I just know that money talks and bullshit walks.

FEOS wrote:

Like I said...go see Dilbert. He's got a tinfoil hat for you.

It's okay, my hats are usually conical with large D's daubed on the side!

Or the interviewer was trying to get the woman to wrap up her incoherent rant. Someone rambling on without actually making a point doesn't work well on an interview show.

FEOS wrote:

Or the interviewer was trying to get the woman to wrap up her incoherent rant. Someone rambling on without actually making a point doesn't work well on an interview show.

She was trying to get her point across yes while being interrupted every 5 seconds. Is getting your point across not what being interviewed is about? It sounded incoherent because she was being talked over. Try being interviewed in front of millions live while the interviewer talks over the top of you and see how you do before judging.
Either way, as I said, piss poor interviewing. Wouldn't see it on any UK news channels. Maybe that's they way it is the the US.