| I'm going to. | 28% | 28% - 6 | ||||
| Can't but wish I could. | 23% | 23% - 5 | ||||
| Not me. | 47% | 47% - 10 | ||||
| Total: 21 | ||||||
I think the film will answer a lot mr. MJ, but I think the main point is that unless we act now, we are screwed. In fact I already think we are screwed, but I don't see any point in making a bleak future more bleak. Universal health care, welfare, social security, illegal immigration, the Iraq war, abortion, gay marriage etc. mean nothing if our country is going broke. It's like deciding what shirt to wear tomorrow, when tomorrow you are getting kicked out of your house because you have not paid your mortgage for 8 months. It gets people thinking critically.Marinejuana wrote:
looks alright. i won't be surprised if it glosses over or completely leaves out a lot of critical information considering AMC theaters are screening it. judging by the trailer it will be super size me or michael moore style distortion. enough information to resonate with people's fears but not enough for people to actually point any fingers or get anything done. oh well, i'll see it anyway, it may be good.
i agree.Phrozenbot wrote:
I think the film will answer a lot mr. MJ, but I think the main point is that unless we act now, we are screwed. In fact I already think we are screwed, but I don't see any point in making a bleak future more bleak. Universal health care, welfare, social security, illegal immigration, the Iraq war, abortion, gay marriage etc. mean nothing if our country is going broke. It's like deciding what shirt to wear tomorrow, when tomorrow you are getting kicked out of your house because you have not paid your mortgage for 8 months. It gets people thinking critically.Marinejuana wrote:
looks alright. i won't be surprised if it glosses over or completely leaves out a lot of critical information considering AMC theaters are screening it. judging by the trailer it will be super size me or michael moore style distortion. enough information to resonate with people's fears but not enough for people to actually point any fingers or get anything done. oh well, i'll see it anyway, it may be good.
I think - yes and no.Turquoise wrote:
The main reason behind that is because people still value our assets. Granted, that may not last much longer. Foreign investment may take a dive very soon due to our falling currency and how long it takes for us to pay back our debts.
It's because the government borrows it's money from a private bank (the federal reserve). Considering we are not on the Gold standard the ''money'' we do have, is made literally out of thin air.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
I hate Economics. I don't understand how the US can be in so much debt yet still be so rich.
A film about how banking institutions enslave people, nations and the world into debt/usury servitude, I believe that is a different film than this one.Marinejuana wrote:
... if this film doesnt assert that current monetary policy was forced on us, just like mexico and most of the world, by international bankers, then right there u see why this film made it past the big $ media filters. the worlds power brokers, the ones that own our banks, corporations and hollywood, WANT us to believe that our constitution, political system, and politicians, are miserable failures and they want us to cry out for some kind of change.
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People were seriously suggesting a Chinese boycott in an old D&ST thread, I was just there pointing out the economic implications (all of which were ignored).Turquoise wrote:
Why would we want to do that? China would never endanger our interests, and even if they did, aren't we somehow just as bad as them or perhaps worse?
I understand that, but honestly, I'm starting to feel like it's past the point of no return. Let's ride this wave for all it's worth.Uzique wrote:
People were seriously suggesting a Chinese boycott in an old D&ST thread, I was just there pointing out the economic implications (all of which were ignored).Turquoise wrote:
Why would we want to do that? China would never endanger our interests, and even if they did, aren't we somehow just as bad as them or perhaps worse?
And from an economic sense you're much worse than China right now . You may be 'more advanced', but hundreds of billions of dollars of that advancement is courtesy of the Chinese Bank- something along the lines of 4.5% of your total foreign investment. The Middle-East is another huge area as well, not to just make this seem as though the USA is in China's back-pocket exclusively. But a small segment of that video-trailer that mentions this foreign lending is very true and I can only hope that the full documentary presents it as effectively and jaw-droppingly as possible. It really is a huge economical headache that is being pushed under the carpet.
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...but because they won't talk about it, we're going to fall. I think that much is clear. I guess the only safeguard is... don't have kids. They're going to grow up in a really fucked up world. Oh well....topal63 wrote:
The movie is about passing a debt to another generation. There isn't a single reason to stay a failed course or court a collapse, as there are solutions - the fact is no one politically will talk about this issue or seriously address it; it's not a very sexy topic.
You're so pessimistic. Lighten up - the world has always been fucked up. There hasn't been a time in history when there wasn't turmoil, strife and social upheavals.Turquoise wrote:
...but because they won't talk about it, we're going to fall. I think that much is clear. I guess the only safeguard is... don't have kids. They're going to grow up in a really fucked up world. Oh well....topal63 wrote:
The movie is about passing a debt to another generation. There isn't a single reason to stay a failed course or court a collapse, as there are solutions - the fact is no one politically will talk about this issue or seriously address it; it's not a very sexy topic.
Get your cash out of dollars. I only have as much in the bank as I need to pay the bills. Foreign appreciating currencies, gold and silver (well, probably less of a good idea now, but still better than dollars). Essentially, anything that is tied to the dollar, get rid of it.Turquoise wrote:
...but because they won't talk about it, we're going to fall. I think that much is clear. I guess the only safeguard is... don't have kids. They're going to grow up in a really fucked up world. Oh well....topal63 wrote:
The movie is about passing a debt to another generation. There isn't a single reason to stay a failed course or court a collapse, as there are solutions - the fact is no one politically will talk about this issue or seriously address it; it's not a very sexy topic.