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Parents of a 16-year-old boy in intensive care with a broken back want to know why police Tasered their son 19 times rather than calling an ambulance for help.

Citizens noticed Branson, Mo., teenager Mace Hutchinson walking alongside the road and, fearing for his safety, called 9-1-1.

"We called the police. My wife was afraid he was going to get ran over or hit," said witness Doug Messersmith. "He looked a little agitated but, other than that, he didn't look to be falling down drunk or anything like that."

When police arrived, they found Hutchinson under an overpass on U.S. 65 Saturday morning, Springfield's KY3 News reported. The boy had fallen 30 feet off the overpass and was lying on the shoulder.

When the boy didn't respond to police, they Tasered him, repeatedly.

"I'm not an officer, but I don't see the reason for Tasering somebody lying there with a broken back. I don't consider that a threat," his aunt Samantha said.

Hutchinson was later admitted to the hospital, where he was put under intensive care for his injuries and is listed in fair condition. His family believes police added to the trauma after he fell from the overpass.

"According to the doctors, all injuries are consistent with a fall," Samantha said.

His father said Hutchinson did not jump but fell onto the pavement; however, no one knows why.

"They tested his system. He was clean of drugs and alcohol. We don't know why unless just being in shock and the whole thing in itself caused him to forget everything," Hutchinson told the television station.

While Hutchinson remains in the hospital for major surgery on his broken back and heel, the family questions police actions that morning. His father claims if police hadn't stunned the teenager 19 times, his critical surgery would not have been delayed by two days.

"The Tasering increased his white blood cell count and caused him to have a temperature so they could not go into the operation," he said.

However, Ozark police say the wounded boy was a threat.

"He refused to comply with the officers and so the officers had to deploy their Tasers in order to subdue him," Capt. Thomas Rousset said. "He is making incoherent statements; he's also making statements such as, 'Shoot cops, kill cops,' things like that. So there was cause for concern to the officers."

Authorities say their use of a Taser weapon should not be questioned, because they were trying to help Hutchinson to safety.

"It's a big concern for the officers to keep this guy out of traffic, to keep him from getting hurt," Rousset said.
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"He refused to comply with the officers and so the officers had to deploy their Tasers in order to subdue him," Capt. Thomas Rousset said. "He is making incoherent statements; he's also making statements such as, 'Shoot cops, kill cops,' things like that. So there was cause for concern to the officers."

i see.  whats the problem?

and can we stop using that line please?  its old.
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i g
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usmarine wrote:

"He refused to comply with the officers and so the officers had to deploy their Tasers in order to subdue him," Capt. Thomas Rousset said. "He is making incoherent statements; he's also making statements such as, 'Shoot cops, kill cops,' things like that. So there was cause for concern to the officers."

i see.  whats the problem?

and can we stop using that line please?  its old.
HIS FUCKING BACK WAS BROKEN. there is no way he posed a threat to several officers...

use your head for once marine



and it's not like they tased him only once...19 times...

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usmarine
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i g wrote:

HIS FUCKING BACK WAS BROKEN.
but he was walking?  k

and do cops have x-ray vision to see that?  are they doctors now?

use your head.
i g
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usmarine wrote:

i g wrote:

HIS FUCKING BACK WAS BROKEN.
but he was walking?  k

and do cops have x-ray vision to see that?  are they doctors now?

use your head.
When police arrived, they found Hutchinson under an overpass on U.S. 65 Saturday morning, Springfield's KY3 News reported. The boy had fallen 30 feet off the overpass and was lying on the shoulder.

When the boy didn't respond to police, they Tasered him, repeatedly.
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"Citizens noticed Branson, Mo., teenager Mace Hutchinson walking alongside the road and, fearing for his safety, called 9-1-1.'

inb4youareactinglikeachild

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i g
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usmarine wrote:

"Citizens noticed Branson, Mo., teenager Mace Hutchinson walking alongside the road and, fearing for his safety, called 9-1-1.'

inb4youareactinglikeachild
that was before he fell bud...



guess they dont teach reading comprehension in the marines...too bad


inb4marinesdumbresponse
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i g wrote:

When the boy didn't respond to police, they Tasered him, repeatedly.

"He refused to comply with the officers and so the officers had to deploy their Tasers in order to subdue him," Capt. Thomas Rousset said. "He is making incoherent statements; he's also making statements such as, 'Shoot cops, kill cops,' things like that. So there was cause for concern to the officers."
?? contradicting much
usmarine
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and cops know that he fell?  they knew that right?  prove that to me first.  so stfu and stop acting like an asshole.
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usmarine wrote:

and cops know that he fell?  they knew that right?  prove that to me first.  so stfu and stop acting like an asshole.
it's probably not too hard to tell that someone fell 30 feet and has a broken back. cops are supposed to look out for these kinds of things

Canadianloser wrote:

i g wrote:

When the boy didn't respond to police, they Tasered him, repeatedly.

"He refused to comply with the officers and so the officers had to deploy their Tasers in order to subdue him," Capt. Thomas Rousset said. "He is making incoherent statements; he's also making statements such as, 'Shoot cops, kill cops,' things like that. So there was cause for concern to the officers."
?? contradicting much
they probably meant that they asked him to put his hands behind his back or stand up, which he was obviously not able to do

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ig, you are looking at this story after the fact.  try and look at it from the info the cops had.

the 911 call said he was walking....before he fell.  then the stuff he was saying when they arrived.
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for all we know this emo faggot probably jumped off that bridge in which case i dont feel bad at all
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I have to admit if someone was paralysed and obviously grievously injured it wouldn't be all too hard to see. There's a difference between an intoxicated and grumbling hobo sleeping under a bridge and a boy lying there motionless and unable to move or respond because he's either in horrifc amounts of pain or alternatively can't feel anything at all (i.e. paralysis). Even if the boy was 'posing a threat', I'm sure tasers are designed to subdue even the most formidable of thugs in one shot- it's a lot of volts no? 19 times? How do you justify the necessity to repeatedly taser someone 19 times? As if a perfectly healthy person isn't already rolling around on the floor like a fish out of water after one ride on those things... sounds like the cops got carried away with their novelty toy and were having a right laugh at his expense.

I wouldn't be surprise if the 'justification' and stories provided by the police Chief such as him muttering "Kill all cops" were fabricated. Since when did breaking your back make you delusional? Unless of course a kind doctor pulled over on the way to the work that morning and doped this kid up with morphine... probably just as likely as the cops actually needing to taser someone 19 times.

Bullshit story, and bullshit reading how other people on these Forums try to speak up for the cops- as if 2 cops needed to use a 15 trillion volt gizmo 20 times to subdue a wheelchair-destined cripple.
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usmarine
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Uzique wrote:

and bullshit reading how other people on these Forums try to speak up for the cops
lol...

whats the toughest decision you make at work?  where to go to lunch?  gtfo
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usmarine wrote:

ig, you are looking at this story after the fact.  try and look at it from the info the cops had.

the 911 call said he was walking....before he fell.  then the stuff he was saying when they arrived.
The way i imagine it if he fell that hard onto his back and needed cirtical operations there is no way he was moving. He was probably lying there in a heap.

And lol at the cops excuses, "we were trying to help him to safety" lol

and no shit he was un responsive hes fucking dying.. So they taser him 19 times to subdue a already subdued kid? Wtf? Couldn't they have maybe done it once, if at all, then just restrained him? I mean a few weeks ago i read a report about how they killed a kid after they tazed him up im canada.
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Sorry but a guy lying on the ground with a broken spine and heel isn't going to be considered a threat by anyone, no matter what incoherant crap they're muttering, and tazering someone 19 times able bodied or not is just fucking retarded, once does the job perfectly well, unless of course he's the size of an elephant (literally).
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usmarine wrote:

Uzique wrote:

and bullshit reading how other people on these Forums try to speak up for the cops
lol...

whats the toughest decision you make at work?  where to go to lunch?  gtfo
Such poor logic, and ad hominem arguments don't exactly make you seem like the most intelligent debater either... however I digress...

I don't need to be a police offer to have a subjective opinion. I didn't base my post on how orthodox their actions were according to the 'Policing For Noobs Handbook', nor did I look at it from a legal perspective to see if they were out of their jurisdiction and legal rights to do what they did. I looked at it from a purely reasonable perspective as the way two human beings treat another human being as a threat when he is clearly helpless and poses no real threat at all. Would my post be credible if I said "Actually I do work for the local law enforcement agency and I've used a taser myself?" Because I would still be uncomprimising in saying that their actions were wrong.

And FYI, the toughest decision I have to make at work is whether to go for a cappucino or a latté
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TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Sorry but a guy lying on the ground with a broken spine and heel isn't going to be considered a threat by anyone, no matter what incoherant crap they're muttering, and tazering someone 19 times able bodied or not is just fucking retarded, once does the job perfectly well, unless of course he's the size of an elephant (literally).
Agreed. Marine, your refusal to admit that cops fuck up sometimes looks even more ridiculous in this case.
i g
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ghettoperson wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Sorry but a guy lying on the ground with a broken spine and heel isn't going to be considered a threat by anyone, no matter what incoherant crap they're muttering, and tazering someone 19 times able bodied or not is just fucking retarded, once does the job perfectly well, unless of course he's the size of an elephant (literally).
Agreed. Marine, your refusal to admit that cops fuck up sometimes looks even more ridiculous in this case.
cut him some slack...he has been drinking canadian beer
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i g wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Sorry but a guy lying on the ground with a broken spine and heel isn't going to be considered a threat by anyone, no matter what incoherant crap they're muttering, and tazering someone 19 times able bodied or not is just fucking retarded, once does the job perfectly well, unless of course he's the size of an elephant (literally).
Agreed. Marine, your refusal to admit that cops fuck up sometimes looks even more ridiculous in this case.
cut him some slack...he has been drinking canadian beer
Is that even worse than American?
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Request to move this thread to D&ST.
i g
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ghettoperson wrote:

i g wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:


Agreed. Marine, your refusal to admit that cops fuck up sometimes looks even more ridiculous in this case.
cut him some slack...he has been drinking canadian beer
Is that even worse than American?
well...no
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ghettoperson wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Sorry but a guy lying on the ground with a broken spine and heel isn't going to be considered a threat by anyone, no matter what incoherant crap they're muttering, and tazering someone 19 times able bodied or not is just fucking retarded, once does the job perfectly well, unless of course he's the size of an elephant (literally).
Agreed. Marine, your refusal to admit that cops fuck up sometimes looks even more ridiculous in this case.
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