wow! what happend in here? I thought it was all light hearted. I didnt know ego's were getting bruised. i've been playing eve for 5 years now and I still don't know all. relax people. have fun. it's a game.
So you don't want me to talk about eve in the eve forum? We can't see who has experience here without a pissing contest? In case you haven't noticed, I have nothing to do with the ego-war.Jestar wrote:
Actually dumbass, I play this game, generally enjoy this thread and I'm also telling you to shut up.
Up to 2 pages ago this thread was going good, but the bitching has just gone too far.
Grab some tools, build a bridge and get over this.
Seriously, get a grip. You're not discussing anything, you just want the rest of us to shut up.
This isn't talk about Eve. This is just pointless bashing about other classes tbh. It's not really meaningful debate.
Word.Jestar wrote:
This isn't talk about Eve. This is just pointless bashing about other classes tbh. It's not really meaningful debate.
This.Jestar wrote:
This isn't talk about Eve. This is just pointless bashing about other classes tbh. It's not really meaningful debate.
Yeah, and I agree it needs to be stopped. However I have nothing to do with this stupid ego war, and you telling me to shut up does nothing, i'm re-railing the thread. Take out your aggression where it's due.Jestar wrote:
This isn't talk about Eve. This is just pointless bashing about other classes tbh. It's not really meaningful debate.
Missioning setups. Need help.
Send me a RailRokh and MissileRaven setup please.
Send me a RailRokh and MissileRaven setup please.
Cap/Shield skills that you'll needBernadictus wrote:
Missioning setups. Need help.
Send me a RailRokh and MissileRaven setup please.
Energy Systems Op 5/Energy Management 4 (5 is a good idea, overheating is win anyway)
Tactical Shield Manip 4
Shield Operation 5
Shield Compensation 4 (5 recommended)
Shield Upgrades 1 (or 5... for a t2 boost amp. Otherwise the skill only reduces PG for extenders, I think)
You'll need good skills to pull this one off. You can switch the PDU II for another flux if you need to until your skills improve.
[Raven, XL missions]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
400 missile DPS with max skills, another 160 from hammer IIs, again max skills. I wouldn't use a permarun setup, you sacrifice too much DPS, but that's just me. Only a 603 permatank against guristas.
For comparison, my not-so-skilled dominix pulls out just about the same DPS at 45km (drones only), and can manage a 1k DPS + permatank. Missiles are a little bit "easier" to use though.
If you can spend another couple hundred mil for a booster...
(Though your isk might be better spent for CN BCUs)
[Raven, XL missions]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5
About the same tank (slightly higher), but room for another BCU.
Rokh
[Rokh, Missions, perma]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Cap Recharger II
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5
Your tank is a little bit better (700 DPS against gurista), but you're at 41km with max skills. You can upgrade as many to 425's as you'd like. It's permatank, but your DPS isn't great still. Similar to the raven, about 400 from guns and 160 from drones. On the positive side, it's more fun and has a better tank. On the negative side, you have to worry about transversal, range, and you can't choose damage types.
For grits
[Harbinger, Missions]
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Capacitor Power Relay II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Stasis Webifier II
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Small Tractor Beam I
Energy Locus Coordinator I
Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Hammerhead II x5
Sansha fit. Keep the t2 where you can. Rigs optional, or if you're feeling spendy you can add some CCCs and drop a cap recharger for a tracking computer, or the CPR for another heatsink/hardener.
Switch hardeners and crystals where necessary.
Max skills does about 500 DPS at 15km.
[Harbinger, Missions]
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Capacitor Power Relay II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Stasis Webifier II
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency M
Small Tractor Beam I
Energy Locus Coordinator I
Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Hammerhead II x5
Sansha fit. Keep the t2 where you can. Rigs optional, or if you're feeling spendy you can add some CCCs and drop a cap recharger for a tracking computer, or the CPR for another heatsink/hardener.
Switch hardeners and crystals where necessary.
Max skills does about 500 DPS at 15km.
EFT DAMAGE PROFILES
Go to your EFT folder. Open up the config file in notepad, and at the bottom paste the following:
DamageProfile=Gurista,0,570,3504,0
DamageProfile=Angel,480,0,719,3058
DamageProfile=Sansha,1945,1598,0,0
DamageProfile=Serpentis,0,1627,1320,0
DamageProfile=Blood raider,613,570,60,0
DamageProfile=Gallente federation,25,781,1127,0
DamageProfile=Minmatar republic,615,310,815,1633
DamageProfile=Amarr empire,1204,1349,0,0
DamageProfile=Caldari state,0,795,944,0
DamageProfile=EoM,0,618,1718,0
DamageProfile=Mercenaries,90,634,424,108
DamageProfile=Rogue Drones,86,91,281,964
DamageProfile=PURE EM,1,0,0,0
DamageProfile=PURE EXPLOSIVE,0,0,0,1
DamageProfile=PURE KINETIC,0,0,1,0
DamageProfile=PURE THERMAL,0,1,0,0
Then in EFT, right click on "Defense", and change it to the rats as needed.
If you're missing the config file, right click on defense, and add your own profile. When copying this in, you can delete it.
Go to your EFT folder. Open up the config file in notepad, and at the bottom paste the following:
DamageProfile=Gurista,0,570,3504,0
DamageProfile=Angel,480,0,719,3058
DamageProfile=Sansha,1945,1598,0,0
DamageProfile=Serpentis,0,1627,1320,0
DamageProfile=Blood raider,613,570,60,0
DamageProfile=Gallente federation,25,781,1127,0
DamageProfile=Minmatar republic,615,310,815,1633
DamageProfile=Amarr empire,1204,1349,0,0
DamageProfile=Caldari state,0,795,944,0
DamageProfile=EoM,0,618,1718,0
DamageProfile=Mercenaries,90,634,424,108
DamageProfile=Rogue Drones,86,91,281,964
DamageProfile=PURE EM,1,0,0,0
DamageProfile=PURE EXPLOSIVE,0,0,0,1
DamageProfile=PURE KINETIC,0,0,1,0
DamageProfile=PURE THERMAL,0,1,0,0
Then in EFT, right click on "Defense", and change it to the rats as needed.
If you're missing the config file, right click on defense, and add your own profile. When copying this in, you can delete it.
You sir are a piece of trash. Euro trash. You call me an arrogant American but you are the one using a multitude of sterotypes and twisted logic to get your point across on something totally unrelated. Really, it isn't my fault that you can't take a fucking joke or any constructive critisism without going on a power trip. If this was any other thread you would have locked it and banned half the people in it, but since it's yours you'll just throw your weight around and wait for someone to say something out of line so you can ban them. You've taken pretty much every statement I've made in the past....forever pages and twisted them, misconstrued them, misinterpreted them, failed to take in to context and failed to understand where I was coming from on any of them. No, you just call some more Americans hillbillies and make me out to be some elitest. You are a piece of trash.Bernadictus wrote:
No you retarded hillbilly. You think I'm the retarded cunt. What's the matter? Did your 'epically epic fail' post backfire because people did not laugh at me, but made fun of your dumb and weak attempt at criticizing my choice for a future Rokh. Dude, you contradict yourself. On one hand you try to be rational, and then you flip over to the psycho side and start dishing out insults and 'witty' remarks. And you can shout 'I'm ingame longer than you, you don't know shit about EVE' for as long as you please, but I have found enough great people to whom I ow a lot in terms of choices and layouts. People that showed me that people like you, with your 'omfg, look at my abba-penis, and your Rokh is the failzorz' attitude, will sooner or later become a point of interest for sploding.
Yeah? And you wouldn't fucking know any of those people if it wasn't for me and you wouldn't have even been considered for recruitment if it hadn't been for me and Ninja putting in good words for you. Hell even after we had they STILL didn't recruit you because you were such a noob. Have they even recruited you yet or are you still training up those learning skills? Don't talk to me like you know some uber-EVE-gods, you don't know shit. Seriously, these people accepted Ninja in literally an hour after he applied, how long did you wait? Ninja, agree?Bernadictus wrote:
I sure as hell don't know 1% of everything there is to know in EVE. Everything I know I was thought by people with experience. People that would put your ship in the same position as the Rokh in your 'E-F-F' movie.
You have nothing to fear from me, I refuse to associate in game with garbage such as yourself. You may rust the golden paint on my divine-solopwnmobile-godly-invinsible-40footdick-abbadon.Bernadictus wrote:
You can 'fucking come rape me' if you desire. Rape my Drake. Tare it into a billion pieces. I'll earn it back. I don't have to sell GTC's to acquire ISK.
Also, what I do with my money is my business what difference is it to you? I don't play EVE 14 hours a day like you and I also support half the new people on here with ships, modules, skills and pure isk. What have you done besides be a pretentious prick to everyone?
It's ok. I don't like people whom I can't understand their english anyways which is why I never call your ass. Also, you're dating and fucking a dude which I find to be disgusting.Bernadictus wrote:
P.s. Just for the information. I never liked you. Your a prime example of American arrogance. I won't go further down into the flame pit, although it's tempting.
Lets hear it, I don't really care. All the people I give a shit about probably already know anyways.Bernadictus wrote:
As in the words of B-Rabbit during the 'Papa Doc battle scene' in the movie 8 Mile :
*I know something about you...*
Last edited by Thorax (2008-08-01 14:45:44)
Pissing contest was over about 10 post ago and if that is your best attempt at trying to get to me, than you epically epic fail.Thorax wrote:
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Well I'm glad you fizzled because I'm getting there too.Bernadictus wrote:
Pissing contest was over about 10 post ago and if that is your best attempt at trying to get to me, than you epically epic fail.Thorax wrote:
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Hmmm... where did you get these numbers from?MadKatter wrote:
EFT DAMAGE PROFILES
Go to your EFT folder. Open up the config file in notepad, and at the bottom paste the following:
DamageProfile=Gurista,0,570,3504,0
DamageProfile=Angel,480,0,719,3058
DamageProfile=Sansha,1945,1598,0,0
DamageProfile=Serpentis,0,1627,1320,0
DamageProfile=Blood raider,613,570,60,0
DamageProfile=Gallente federation,25,781,1127,0
DamageProfile=Minmatar republic,615,310,815,1633
DamageProfile=Amarr empire,1204,1349,0,0
DamageProfile=Caldari state,0,795,944,0
DamageProfile=EoM,0,618,1718,0
DamageProfile=Mercenaries,90,634,424,108
DamageProfile=Rogue Drones,86,91,281,964
DamageProfile=PURE EM,1,0,0,0
DamageProfile=PURE EXPLOSIVE,0,0,0,1
DamageProfile=PURE KINETIC,0,0,1,0
DamageProfile=PURE THERMAL,0,1,0,0
Then in EFT, right click on "Defense", and change it to the rats as needed.
If you're missing the config file, right click on defense, and add your own profile. When copying this in, you can delete it.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Hmm... mine has a similar tank, but what about DPS? ATM I'm pulling about 300 (is it just because I can't use t2 drones...?)For comparison, my not-so-skilled dominix pulls out just about the same DPS at 45km (drones only), and can manage a 1k DPS + permatank.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
That would be why. I have a sentry damage augmentor (among some optimal+tracking mods), t2 sentries, and about 100 DPS from rails.Spark wrote:
Hmm... mine has a similar tank, but what about DPS? ATM I'm pulling about 300 (is it just because I can't use t2 drones...?)For comparison, my not-so-skilled dominix pulls out just about the same DPS at 45km (drones only), and can manage a 1k DPS + permatank.
Per above: those numbers aren't mine, but they were compiled from a list of rats given from a database, and then averaged to get damage proportions. They may not be entirely accurate, but if nothing else they're pretty darn close.
How do you keep the cap stable without cap rigs?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
I have two cap rigs, and a sentry damage rig. 4 cap recharger IIs, 2 LAR IIs, 4 hardeners, CPR permaruns without any issues. The guns tip it over, but I hardly ever need both LARs. I also have an AB fit for convenience.Spark wrote:
How do you keep the cap stable without cap rigs?
Fit:
3x 350 Rail/2x Drone Link/1x Medium Remote Armor Rep (or another gun, with one LAR fitted)
AB, 4x CR II (Or 2-3 Drone Links, again dependant on the LAR)
CPR II, 4x Hardener II, 2x LAR II (or 1x LAR II, 1x MFS II)
Sentry Damage Aug/CCC/CCC
If I were to run a gank setup (read - have actual gun skills and fit 5 350 IIs), I'd drop the CCCs in favor of aux nano pump rigs, keep 2 drone links and drop the AB for a cap recharger.
I usually run gardes and curator IIs for sansha/blood/drones, but sometimes I switch out the gardes for ogre IIs. Wardens/Gardes for guristas/gallente/serpentis/EOM, and Bouncers/Berserkers for angels. Medium drones to match.
AM/Thorium/Tungsten in the hold. It's about 20/40/70km ranges from the 3. Although I hardly ever use them.
Oh, ok. Only difference is that I have a SB instead of the remote rep (might consider getting that one actually... for drones) and an aux nano pump.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Twas the setup you gave meMadKatter wrote:
[Raven, XL missions]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Shield Boost Amplifier I
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5
Mine currently is similar, but for the CNR, and with a Cap Booster and Faction BCUs
Works out to b around 650dps when in its final state
Also, thanks so much for teaching me how to salvage stalk Bernie into a mission I owe ya heaps
Last edited by -_{MoW}_-Assasin (2008-08-01 21:34:03)
There is a Dominix loadout on Battleclinic that does roughly 600-700 DPS. However it is fitted with mostly T2 stuff.Spark wrote:
Hmm... mine has a similar tank, but what about DPS? ATM I'm pulling about 300 (is it just because I can't use t2 drones...?)For comparison, my not-so-skilled dominix pulls out just about the same DPS at 45km (drones only), and can manage a 1k DPS + permatank.
Look for the loadout called "LOL THIS ISN'T OBERPOWERED"
Seriously, that's whats it's called.
I know that one. That's designed to get in, hit hard (VERY hard) and get the hell out. I could fly that but that is a definite blob-PvP setup.Thorax wrote:
There is a Dominix loadout on Battleclinic that does roughly 600-700 DPS. However it is fitted with mostly T2 stuff.Spark wrote:
Hmm... mine has a similar tank, but what about DPS? ATM I'm pulling about 300 (is it just because I can't use t2 drones...?)For comparison, my not-so-skilled dominix pulls out just about the same DPS at 45km (drones only), and can manage a 1k DPS + permatank.
Look for the loadout called "LOL THIS ISN'T OBERPOWERED"
Seriously, that's whats it's called.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Hello Canberra BoySpark wrote:
I know that one. That's designed to get in, hit hard (VERY hard) and get the hell out. I could fly that but that is a definite blob-PvP setup.Thorax wrote:
There is a Dominix loadout on Battleclinic that does roughly 600-700 DPS. However it is fitted with mostly T2 stuff.Spark wrote:
Hmm... mine has a similar tank, but what about DPS? ATM I'm pulling about 300 (is it just because I can't use t2 drones...?)
Look for the loadout called "LOL THIS ISN'T OBERPOWERED"
Seriously, that's whats it's called.
Lol thanks to 2142 Thought you said it was a shit idea. I made Tridgit my bitch in that game and now I'm his bitchThorax wrote:
Yeah? And you wouldn't fucking know any of those people if it wasn't for me and you wouldn't have even been considered for recruitment if it hadn't been for me and Ninja putting in good words for you. Hell even after we had they STILL didn't recruit you because you were such a noob. Have they even recruited you yet or are you still training up those learning skills? Don't talk to me like you know some uber-EVE-gods, you don't know shit. Seriously, these people accepted Ninja in literally an hour after he applied, how long did you wait? Ninja, agree?Bernadictus wrote:
I sure as hell don't know 1% of everything there is to know in EVE. Everything I know I was thought by people with experience. People that would put your ship in the same position as the Rokh in your 'E-F-F' movie.
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well that was fun reading those last few pages lol. Girls need to stop fighting, as a great mod once said "if you have a problem with someone keep it to pms".
I just like having fun in eve I'm not out to go be a leet pwnzor, I just do what I find interesting. Eve I a very time consuming game so it's hard for me to keep up
I just like having fun in eve I'm not out to go be a leet pwnzor, I just do what I find interesting. Eve I a very time consuming game so it's hard for me to keep up