Braddock
Agitator
+916|6710|Éire

oChaos.Haze wrote:

Is this for real?  No one was in the house, the guy never did anything that insinuated he wanted to cause bodily harm to anyone.  Dude, get a grip please. 

YES I am a homeowner, YES I pay for it.  No that doesn't give me the right to shoot an obviously mentally challenged person who thinks it's ok to fill up my toilets with shit and paper. I don't care what the law says.  When he takes a step at you, ok do what you want, but until then, it's murder.  In fact, I probably would've liked if you shot him, then we wouldn't have to hear this nonsense anymore.  Unless you can access BF2s from prison.

You ever noticed, a lot of the most irrational "self defense", "shoot now, ask later" guys, are christian?  Hypocrisy ftl.
"...And Jesus said let he who hath entered your home be shot in the face"

-Heckler & Koch
Chapter 6, verse 9


To be fair I don't think lowing is a card-carrying Christian but you're right, a lot of the other 'usual suspects' in here are.
oChaos.Haze
Member
+90|6858
Yeah I'm not necessarily targeting lowing here.  Well except for the thinking the guy should be killed part.  The christian part is merely an observation I've noticed for years...
Locoloki
I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!
+216|7060|Your moms bedroom
probably a hand slap and community service
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7136

JahManRed wrote:

Someone broke into my Ex's house lastweek while she was out, her sister was babysitting my son. They stole her car and run someone over before abandoning it. The police will never catch them. But good old fashion citizen Justice is already in effect. My dad said something to this effect "someone was in my grandsons house while he was sleeping, they are fucked, I know a particularly nasty man........." So there are a few groups of hoods live and congregate close to were the car was abandoned. This guy hung a few of them off them off a bridge and broke a few noses.(his words) Now we know who they are. They have been contacted. They have one week to come up with the money for the car............or well, they are fucked.
Now don't get me wrong... I like your fathers way of thinking and would have probably done the same...  but shouldn't the law deal with these dirtbags...?   I think that's the thing people forget... if it happens in another town or country it doesn't really affect you personally... but if someone attacks your sister or Mom etc... then stomping the persons head in makes perfect sense...
Love is the answer
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6763|tropical regions of london
murder his male children and sell his wife and daughter into sexual slavery.
God Save the Queen
Banned
+628|6763|tropical regions of london
another example of lowing not being racists when he is the first to mention anything about ethnicity.  yeah, lowing.  the whole world is crazy for considering you a racist.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6975

God Save the Queen wrote:

another example of lowing not being racists when he is the first to mention anything about ethnicity.  yeah, lowing.  the whole world is crazy for considering you a racist.
Wow. Can't believe I let that one slip. How'd I miss it?
ZombieVampire!
The Gecko
+69|6247

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

Now don't get me wrong... I like your fathers way of thinking and would have probably done the same...  but shouldn't the law deal with these dirtbags...?
The law needs proof.
Tetrino
International OMGWTFBBQ
+200|7150|Uhh... erm...
Hmm...

In the case presented in the OP, make him clean up the damn mess he's made, throw him a bunch of community service. Damage is repaired, city gets a bit cleaner, everyone's happy.

In the case of an unarmed home intruder, repel with hockey stick.

In the case of armed intruder, repel with 8 inch bread knife.

In the case that I'm allowed to keep a gun and home intruder (armed or otherwise), shoot to scare. I'd carry the biggest caliber pistol I could find, and just let off a shot into the wall or something. Nice big boom.
wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6880|UK
What a cunt I hope they made him tidy up the house and eat his own shit.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6912|Connecticut
Just an observation here. Lowing is entitled to his opinion, whether you like it or not. Some of you may agree, most of you don't but when you bash the evr living shit out of him for his views it makes you just as bad if not worse. Lowing has sent me PM's congratulating me on things I have achieved and I will stand here and say that he is a decent guy who genuinely cares about others. All of you motherfuckers who are screaming for him to be sensetive to this burglar should stop and think that this may be an issue that hits close to home for him seeing how he is a thousand miles away from his family trying to provide for them and he is powerless to protect them. Where is your balance and fairness now? Wait until you have a wife and children at home. When you do you will die to make sure they are safe.
Malloy must go
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7191|PNW

lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Wow. Over-reaction.
Ya think so? that figures.
I'd agree with the Irishman on this one. It's only extended vandalism and petty thievery. The guy's a lunatic, but shoot him? Wouldn't have the heart.

Community service, clean everything up and work off the cost of stolen items and specialist cleaning/repair beyond his skill.

Tetrino wrote:

1) In the case of an unarmed home intruder, repel with hockey stick.

2) In the case of armed intruder, repel with 8 inch bread knife.
1) a. Housebreaker: 'Don't shoot, I'm unarmed!'
b. Homeowner: 'Here I come with my hockey stick!'
c. Housebreaker: *.38 BAM*
d. Homeowner: 'MEDIC!'

2) a. Housebreaker: *.38 BAM*
d. Homeowner: 'MEDIC!'

deeznutz1245 wrote:

1) Just an observation here. Lowing is entitled to his opinion, whether you like it or not. Some of you may agree, most of you don't but when you bash the evr living shit out of him for his views it makes you just as bad if not worse.

2) Lowing has sent me PM's congratulating me on things I have achieved and I will stand here and say that he is a decent guy who genuinely cares about others.

3) All of you motherfuckers who are screaming for him to be sensetive to this burglar should stop and think that this may be an issue that hits close to home for him seeing how he is a thousand miles away from his family trying to provide for them and he is powerless to protect them. Where is your balance and fairness now?

4) Wait until you have a wife and children at home. When you do you will die to make sure they are safe.
1) Fact: lowing never bashes anyone or their opinions.

2) Keep that mutual back-patting circle in full motion.

3) Just an observation here. We are entitled to our opinions, whether you like it or not. Etc.

4) In most gun-toting conservative families I know, the mother is the most to be feared. I'd be more worried about being outside of her [their] sentry's gaze than what she'd do without me.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-07-15 09:09:51)

deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6912|Connecticut

deeznutz1245 wrote:

3) All of you motherfuckers who are screaming for him to be sensetive to this burglar should stop and think that this may be an issue that hits close to home for him seeing how he is a thousand miles away from his family trying to provide for them and he is powerless to protect them. Where is your balance and fairness now?

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

3) Just an observation here. We are entitled to our opinions, whether you like it or not. Etc.
Just pointing out that the hypocrasy is funny. I know Lowing bashes, but it is funny to hear those who oppose him for it do it by bashing back.

deeznutz1245 wrote:

4) Wait until you have a wife and children at home. When you do you will die to make sure they are safe.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

4) In most gun-toting conservative families I know, the mother is the most to be feared. I'd be more worried about being outside of her [their] sentry's gaze than what she'd do without me.
Maybe those men are metrosecual faggots because in my house I protect my wife and child, not the other way around.
Malloy must go
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6975

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Just pointing out that the hypocrasy is funny. I know Lowing bashes, but it is funny to hear those who oppose him for it do it by bashing back.
I have yet to see any personal insults thrown about in this thread.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6962|Texas - Bigger than France

CameronPoe wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Just pointing out that the hypocrasy is funny. I know Lowing bashes, but it is funny to hear those who oppose him for it do it by bashing back.
I have yet to see any personal insults thrown about in this thread.

CameronPoe wrote:

Given that most of the civilised world dispensed with capital punishment decades ago, ya I do think so. Caveman.
Oops, hit send too early.

The perp is an a-hole.  I hope he gets punished severly.  Sounds like the homeowner was satisfied with the punishment.  Sounds like the legal system is working.

Last edited by Pug (2008-07-15 10:08:07)

JahManRed
wank
+646|7047|IRELAND

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

Someone broke into my Ex's house lastweek while she was out, her sister was babysitting my son. They stole her car and run someone over before abandoning it. The police will never catch them. But good old fashion citizen Justice is already in effect. My dad said something to this effect "someone was in my grandsons house while he was sleeping, they are fucked, I know a particularly nasty man........." So there are a few groups of hoods live and congregate close to were the car was abandoned. This guy hung a few of them off them off a bridge and broke a few noses.(his words) Now we know who they are. They have been contacted. They have one week to come up with the money for the car............or well, they are fucked.
Now don't get me wrong... I like your fathers way of thinking and would have probably done the same...  but shouldn't the law deal with these dirtbags...?   I think that's the thing people forget... if it happens in another town or country it doesn't really affect you personally... but if someone attacks your sister or Mom etc... then stomping the persons head in makes perfect sense...
The law fails. They probably have a good idea who done it. But no finger prints=no conviction. It annoys me every time I hear a victim of crime. But at the same time its the way things have been done here. Up until recently the Police were institutionally bias against catholics. Some would say they still are. As a result people went to the IRA for Justice. They have went away but the suspicions of a bias police force has now been replaced with an incompetent one. (My friend phoned them to tell them the shop across the road was being burgled. The police showed up 30min's later. The shop owner told my friend they have an agreement with the police to not pursue these type of crime. Because if someone is caught they have to stump up the money. Seeing as most of the people committing these type of crimes are penny less kids it works better if no one is caught and then it can be claimed from insurance. I can picture the cops saying to each other "think they are finished yet so we can go down there?") Same with the car. Not only do I loose the car. I can't claim off my insurance as I loose my no claims and on top of that I had to pay £200 to a recovery company to lift the car from were the bastards abandoned it. Plus buy a new car. Its clear that UK morality and social Justice are going down the pan. But the police often have their hands tied and it all seams to be about money as usual. So when the Justice system fail and police have their hands tied its often down to citizens.

Last edited by JahManRed (2008-07-15 10:05:12)

CaptainSpaulding71
Member
+119|6776|CA, USA
i say dunk his head in those overflowing toilets filled with crap.  then have him serve his sentence in jail.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA
Ok, I have read and am all caught up now.
First,  I gotta say, this discussion has moved beyond the squatting of this guy, to genuine home defense from an intruder, this wasdone by me and Cam pretty early on. For the record, I never said I would kill this guy, I said if he was killed doing this shit,  iwouldn't loose any sleep over it.

Second, the most of you will and have argued that even if someone entered your home, in the middle of the night, it is not worth killing him over. Most if not ALL of you that say this, either do not own a home or do not have kids to protect, or both.

As far as the religious comments made, I am not religious, so there is no hypocrisy there on my part.

As far as the Sharia Law comparision goes, I have long maintained that our laws are too lenient and we cater to criminals over victims. If burglarly brought the death penalty I can live with that, a burglar is the one who needs to worry. Now do I beleive in public executions because a wife looked at another guy and her husband saw it, nope.

Deeznutz, I appreciate the back up thanks.

Now, back to the point of a home invader breaking into your house while you were sleeping: Most of you think defending your home and family with deadly force is wrong?
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6962|Texas - Bigger than France

lowing wrote:

Now, back to the point of a home invader breaking into your house while you were sleeping: Most of you think defending your home and family with deadly force is wrong?
It's necessary.  I don't like it, but it's necessary.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA

Pug wrote:

lowing wrote:

Now, back to the point of a home invader breaking into your house while you were sleeping: Most of you think defending your home and family with deadly force is wrong?
It's necessary.  I don't like it, but it's necessary.
Well, yer not gunna believe this, but that is exactly how I feel.
Locoloki
I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!
+216|7060|Your moms bedroom
havent you ever seen that show on tv where the burglarize the house, the ladies lucky that didnt happen to her, boohoo shes got dirty dishes, better than having them all smashed on the floor and everything stolen. At least the shit was in the toilet. Probably didnt even lock up the house when she left (wouldnt that be another charge of Breaking and Entering)


If you going to go on Vacation, have someone check on your house, pick up your mail, dont blab where you going to everyone in town, and lock your fucking door on the way out.

Last edited by Locoloki (2008-07-15 10:50:43)

motherdear
Member
+25|7071|Denmark/Minnesota (depends)
somebody should kick the face in to whoever did this
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA

Locoloki wrote:

havent you ever seen that show on tv where the burglarize the house, the ladies lucky that didnt happen to her, boohoo shes got dirty dishes, better than having them all smashed on the floor and everything stolen. At least the shit was in the toilet. Probably didnt even lock up the house when she left (wouldnt that be another charge of Breaking and Entering)
Maybe you better read the article again:

Your attitude that this is no big deal would really be  pretty laughable, if I didn't believe you actually felt that way
Locoloki
I got Mug 222 at Gritty's!!!!
+216|7060|Your moms bedroom

lowing wrote:

Locoloki wrote:

havent you ever seen that show on tv where the burglarize the house, the ladies lucky that didnt happen to her, boohoo shes got dirty dishes, better than having them all smashed on the floor and everything stolen. At least the shit was in the toilet. Probably didnt even lock up the house when she left (wouldnt that be another charge of Breaking and Entering)
Maybe you better read the article again:

Your attitude that this is no big deal would really be  pretty laughable, if I didn't believe you actually felt that way
it is a deal, but killing someone over your own ignorance? What got stolen?  priceless jewelry? a few fucking soda cans? a broken couch? could have been worse.

Shit we got worse B + E's here in Maine where some 7 year old got her throat cut with a machete
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7071|USA

Locoloki wrote:

lowing wrote:

Locoloki wrote:

havent you ever seen that show on tv where the burglarize the house, the ladies lucky that didnt happen to her, boohoo shes got dirty dishes, better than having them all smashed on the floor and everything stolen. At least the shit was in the toilet. Probably didnt even lock up the house when she left (wouldnt that be another charge of Breaking and Entering)
Maybe you better read the article again:

Your attitude that this is no big deal would really be  pretty laughable, if I didn't believe you actually felt that way
it is a deal, but killing someone over your own ignorance? What got stolen?  priceless jewelry? a few fucking soda cans? a broken couch? could have been worse.

Shit we got worse B + E's here in Maine where some 7 year old got her throat cut with a machete
What ignorance would I possess by someone destroying all I have worked for? PLUS, I neversaid I would kill the guy,  Isaid if he was to be killed while doing this I wouldn't give a flying fuck.

I wonder if that little girl woulda been killed if the intruder HAPPENED to be killed first as he was B&Eing. Of course, your outrage over that woulda been ear shattering.......Poor criminals.

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