BF2S Forums Iran fires missiles into the Gulf

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Iranians are not crazy, they are providing only conventional weaponery and they will do that until the enemy is removed from their holy land. They want nuclear capability not for offensive purpose but only for defensive purpose..  they have TV you know and they saw what happened with North Korea, how NK was NEVER militarly threathened because they have the bomb.

Is that so hard to understand? it's the same propaganda that made you think saddam had WMDs and you are falling for it again.

Iran will never give a nuke to any militia anywhere in the world.. same reason why North Korea never gave a bomb or stuff for a dirty bomb to any terrorist group in the world..  its because they know they will be blamed for it.

Last edited by FEOS (2008-07-12 07:06:40)

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

FEOS wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Iranians are not crazy, they are providing only conventional weaponery and they will do that until the enemy is removed from their holy land. They want nuclear capability not for offensive purpose but only for defensive purpose..  they have TV you know and they saw what happened with North Korea, how NK was NEVER militarly threathened because they have the bomb.

Is that so hard to understand? it's the same propaganda that made you think saddam had WMDs and you are falling for it again.

Iran will never give a nuke to any militia anywhere in the world.. same reason why North Korea never gave a bomb or stuff for a dirty bomb to any terrorist group in the world..  its because they know they will be blamed for it.

What enemy is in their "holy land"? Iraq is Iranian "holy land"?

Go back and read some more about why people thought Saddam had WMD. It wasn't propaganda. It was intel...showing exactly what he wanted shown. I'm not falling for anything. Have I said we need to attack Iran? A single time? No.

And omniscience must be nice...perhaps you should go to work for the UN or something.

The entire middle east is holy land..  Would you mind if Russia or China was occupying part of Canada and Mexico and was knocking on your door saying stop threathening us or we are going in?

Yes you are falling for it.. you think Iran is a threat to your national security..  you think they will attack you or Israel with nuclear bombs.. you think they will give a nuke to some ragtag group so they will nuke their enemy for them.. You are brainwashed by your media..  you cannot believe an administration can lie about WMD just to invade a sovereign country..

I dunno if you ever said you want to attack Iran but you sure will not mind if the bombs start to fell on them.  You hate Amadinertime for standing up to you and israel.  i'm not fancy-pollux so i don't have time to dig in your posting history.

M.O.A.B wrote:

They gave an advanced RPG-29 to groups in Lebanon and Iraq, one which punched a hole through the frontal ERA and armour of a Challenger 2 tank which has one of the best armour's in the world. They gave them weapons like that, what's to say they wouldn't give them a dirty bomb?

FEOS wrote:

I like how you know me so well. You are fucking clueless. You have no idea what I think.

Iran is a threat to many nations' security, based on their threats vis a vis the Hormuz Strait.

I don't think Iran will necessarily attack us or Israel with nuclear bombs...right now.

I don't think Iran will "give a nuke to some ragtag group so they will nuke their enemy for them" (again, to avoid Bubs' grammar wrath)...right now.

I don't pay much attention to the media here, except to see how badly they've screwed up the facts. I pay attention to intel reports.

I know an administration didn't lie about WMD...because I saw the intel reports that led them to believe he had them...

FEOS wrote:

Again, you know fuckall about me. I most certainly don't want bombs to start falling on them. I'm not a big fan of death and destruction...I just realize that sometimes it's unavoidable. This is not one of those situations...yet.

I don't hate Dinnerjacket. I don't know him. I despise his rhetoric and his policies. It has nothing to do with standing up to the US (I'm assuming you didn't mean me personally) or standing up to Israel. In case you have failed to notice, it's not just the US or Israel...it's the EU and Russia, as well.

M.O.A.B wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I like how you know me so well. You are fucking clueless. You have no idea what I think.

Iran is a threat to many nations' security, based on their threats vis a vis the Hormuz Strait.

I don't think Iran will necessarily attack us or Israel with nuclear bombs...right now.

I don't think Iran will "give a nuke to some ragtag group so they will nuke their enemy for them" (again, to avoid Bubs' grammar wrath)...right now.

I don't pay much attention to the media here, except to see how badly they've screwed up the facts. I pay attention to intel reports.

I know an administration didn't lie about WMD...because I saw the intel reports that led them to believe he had them...

That is where you are wrong.. Iran never attacked another country recently, they started the threats of closing the Strait after being threatened with war and remember you (the US) started this shit by calling them part of the axis of evil. No attack on Iran and the Hormuz Strait will remain open.

Ok about the intel reports.. you know they were wrong the first time do you?  Now why are you believing them when they say that Iran is an aggresive state that are building nukes to later give to a terrorist organisation or to nuke israel or Europe?

I don't believe they've been threatened with war, that seems to be the misinterpreted view everyone blurted out when they heard that military options were on the table and prepared. Strange thing is, just because its not broadcast doesn't mean the UK or the US doesn't have a battle plan for hitting Russia, China, North Korea or Syria. You don't plan ahead for what you would do if a war comes around then you're screwed big time when it gets down to it.

Iran's being super shady when it comes to asking them exactly what they're up to, hence the suspicion they're building a nuke. Definace against the IAEA, disallowing inspectors into every part of their facilities, refusing assistance from the US and European countries to help them establish a civilian nuclear power system. If they've got nothing to hide then why go to all this trouble?

M.O.A.B wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

I don't believe they've been threatened with war, that seems to be the misinterpreted view everyone blurted out when they heard that military options were on the table and prepared. Strange thing is, just because its not broadcast doesn't mean the UK or the US doesn't have a battle plan for hitting Russia, China, North Korea or Syria. You don't plan ahead for what you would do if a war comes around then you're screwed big time when it gets down to it.

Iran's being super shady when it comes to asking them exactly what they're up to, hence the suspicion they're building a nuke. Definace against the IAEA, disallowing inspectors into every part of their facilities, refusing assistance from the US and European countries to help them establish a civilian nuclear power system. If they've got nothing to hide then why go to all this trouble?

Hey don't get me wrong, i'm pretty sure they want to build a nuke.. But i don't blame them..   Look what happened with North Korea..  If you have a nuke, nobody will never attack you..   they want to be part of the club.. I say why not?

I don't see them as crazy extremists.. And i know they will never nuke or give a nuke to a terrorist organisation.  Call me naive but when i look at what happened in Iran since 1953, i see the west messing around with them all the time.. And they never retaliate expect for the hostages part.

They are now surrounded by the US army.. They want to be left alone that's it.

North Korea abandoned its nuke program and is now being offered assistance and has been removed from the list suggesting they may support terrorist groups in the ME.

M.O.A.B wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

North Korea abandoned its nuke program and is now being offered assistance and has been removed from the list suggesting they may support terrorist groups in the ME.

That is because the US talked to them.. never threatened them with military attack even when they were testing nukes on their land... 

That is what having a nuke can do..  I don't blame Iran for wanting one.

And NK don't have any ennemies in their area with nuclear capability,   Iran have Israel with 300 nukes and crazy zionist people running the country.

That's another thing..  I know you support Israel and all but again why are they allowed to have nukes?

N. Korea would have had plans made against it militarily just the same as Iran

As for Israel 40-50 years of heavy conflict and they haven't used one, proof they have control of whether or not to use em.

M.O.A.B wrote:

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

N. Korea would have had plans made against it militarily just the same as Iran

As for Israel 40-50 years of heavy conflict and they haven't used one, proof they have control of whether or not to use em.

Iran will have the same control..  It's not because they believe in Allah that they are automatically suicidal and want the end of the world.

No, but they have a dire dislike of Israel, they are controlled by a sort of religious nutjob and they openly supply terror groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas, as well as though operating in Iraq.

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

That is where you are wrong.. Iran never attacked another country recently, they started the threats of closing the Strait after being threatened with war and remember you (the US) started this shit by calling them part of the axis of evil. No attack on Iran and the Hormuz Strait will remain open.

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Ok about the intel reports.. you know they were wrong the first time do you?  Now why are you believing them when they say that Iran is an aggresive state that are building nukes to later give to a terrorist organisation or to nuke israel or Europe?

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Again, you know fuckall about me. I most certainly don't want bombs to start falling on them. I'm not a big fan of death and destruction...I just realize that sometimes it's unavoidable. This is not one of those situations...yet.

I don't hate Dinnerjacket. I don't know him. I despise his rhetoric and his policies. It has nothing to do with standing up to the US (I'm assuming you didn't mean me personally) or standing up to Israel. In case you have failed to notice, it's not just the US or Israel...it's the EU and Russia, as well.

Trust me it will never be one of those situation.. You will have the right to attack them only if they shoot first..and i will support you.. That pre-emptive war shit is the worst invention.