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2008-06-21 14:23:36
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|6952|Eastern PA

usmarine2 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

The difference is white people have not historically struggled with poverty and poor education.  IMO comming from a deprived communities would mean you wouyld be likely to engage in crime.
I can understand that.  But why?  Wouldn't you want to take advantage of scholarships and such and have a better life then the one you grew up in?
Schools are funded primarily by property taxes and tend to be shitty in those areas due to an inability to get adequate teacher pay, facilities, or required materials.

I know DC in particular is near the top of the heap in per pupil spending (top 3 nation wide I think), but in reality very little is spent on students, teachers, or facilities. Most is eaten up by administrators. DC is also top in the number of administrative costs per students despite low faculty pay and buildings falling apart.

EDIT: Also, given the shitty school situation, how many guidance counselors, etc. even make students aware of those opportunities? It happens for some, but more often than not kids are simply now made aware of what is "out there". Schools might not have internet access, there aren't any libraries nearby, they've never been taught about computing and thus don't know how to search for what opportunities are available to them, they don't have computers at home, etc. etc.

Much of the problems that exist in isolated rural areas are extant in urban areas that are effectively just as isolated.

Last edited by Masques (2008-06-21 14:28:59)

2008-06-21 14:50:41
CaptainSpaulding71
Member
+119|6586|CA, USA
i agree that most of this is driven by economics rather than being a particular ethnicity.  unfortunately, culture does play a role here. 

in my opinion, those individuals who attempt to rise out of poverty are labeled as sell-outs and uncle toms rather than celebrating them and using those people as role models.  the group is essentially holding the people back.  instead, they choose to exemplify the bad behavior in what they do celebrate (thug life, pimps/hos, broken family units, drugs/crime, etc).  after many generations of subsisting on assistance programs, the culture of entitlement is fully ingrained in their psyche.  they believe they are owed what they do get.  Due to the prevailing 'group think' and constant mental beat downs from their own families about a vast white conspiracy to hold the black man down and so on, eventually they simply give in to those stereotypes. 

This fact of keeping their culture insular and not attempting to integrate with the rest of modern society also separates them further and prevents them from progressing.  Here's an example.  Let's suppose a guy dressed in thug-a-delic attire with hat on sideways, huge gold chains attempts to get a job as a manager or wants to buy a franchise or is applying for a programmer or other high tech position.  you take a look at this as a potential employee and wonder if this guy takes his life seriously - will he take the job seriously?  will he cause problems with the customers he has on the phone or in business meetings in that would it cause customers to doubt whether this guy is on the level?  Look at Russell Simmons - hip-hop mogul and consider how he dresses - pretty calm.  Tiger woods?  These guys are very successful and yet they know how to act when you want to get a job.  it's a matter of showing respect to your employer. 

So, the culture that ingrains in these people that dressing like a thug is good is actually holding them back.  Now then, we can have a discussion that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but honestly i think this is a disrespect thing and could be remedied by simply swallowing pride and going with the flow - i would wager at the end of the day there would be a much easier time to progress as an unfortunate in society using this tactic and eventually lift oneself (and the family) out of poverty.  unfortunately nowadays, we have taken a different strategy where we seek to change people's perceptions all over the world that even though the guy dresses like a thug - he is not a thug.  this is a much harder problem to solve.  rather, if the guy didn't act/dress/speak in that manner in the first place, he'd get the job, make money and do well.  this is not a matter of selling out - it's a matter of doing what is actually 'normal' for 90% of the rest of us.

so to summarize, i believe the culture of thug life is actually holding the black man back.  The refusal to integrate into the rest of society as a whole is also affecting latinos and asians in certain areas due to language barriers.  it's a shame that these good people are being hampered by their own.
2008-06-21 15:13:35
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6412|Ireland
Darker colors absorb more UV and heat up as opposed to lighter colors which reflect the UV and stay cooler.  My theory is that it only has to with skin color.  Darker the skin color the hotter you are which means you lose your cool and do bad things.

This is my theory on the whole black white thingy, because we all know that skin color is not just skin deep.  Oh, and it is just coincedence that it is people being raised by one parent who is a crack whore in a ghetto environment that commit these crimes.  I am sure the more important thing to focus on is skin color because it helps so much when addressing the root cause of crime.
2008-06-21 15:16:13
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6020|Dublin, Ohio

HurricaИe wrote:

I know a lot of friendly, hard-working blacks.
lulz.  dude

when you say stuff like that, people WILL think you are racist.

Last edited by usmarine2 (2008-06-21 15:16:43)

2008-06-21 15:18:32
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6190|Washington DC

usmarine2 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

I know a lot of friendly, hard-working blacks.
lulz.  dude

when you say stuff like that, people WILL think you are racist.
And why? Is it suddenly unacceptable for blacks to be hard working? Besides, it's the internet. If someone wants to think I'm racist because of a simple statement like that (nevermind that they know next to nothing about my personal life and the people I know and interact with) then they can be my guest. I'll have the carecups and chips and dips waiting.

@Drool, who the hell ever said "because you have high melanin content, you are born to be a criminal"?

Last edited by HurricaИe (2008-06-21 15:20:59)

2008-06-21 15:19:48
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6412|Ireland

HurricaИe wrote:

I know a lot of friendly, hard-working blacks.
I once knew a black that didn't like rap music, damn was it hard to stereotype him as ghetto trash!
2008-06-21 15:20:46
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6020|Dublin, Ohio

HurricaИe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

I know a lot of friendly, hard-working blacks.
lulz.  dude

when you say stuff like that, people WILL think you are racist.
And why? Is it suddenly unacceptable for blacks to be hard working? Besides, it's the internet. If someone wants to think I'm racist because of a simple statement like that (nevermind that they know next to nothing about my personal life and the people I know and interact with) then they can be my guest. I'll have the carecups and chips and dips waiting.
no no.

When people say "I know lots of blacks" and stuff like that, people sometimes jump to conclusions.........especially on here.
2008-06-21 15:22:09
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6190|Washington DC

usmarine2 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:


lulz.  dude

when you say stuff like that, people WILL think you are racist.
And why? Is it suddenly unacceptable for blacks to be hard working? Besides, it's the internet. If someone wants to think I'm racist because of a simple statement like that (nevermind that they know next to nothing about my personal life and the people I know and interact with) then they can be my guest. I'll have the carecups and chips and dips waiting.
no no.

When people say "I know lots of blacks" and stuff like that, people sometimes jump to conclusions.........especially on here.
I guess so... see above.

Tell me drool, given the numbers that I posted (and please don't try to deny them), could that mean that a lot of blacks are raised in those socioeconomic conditions you described? If so, what do you think could be done to fix that? (Serious question)
2008-06-21 15:55:32
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6412|Ireland

HurricaИe wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:


And why? Is it suddenly unacceptable for blacks to be hard working? Besides, it's the internet. If someone wants to think I'm racist because of a simple statement like that (nevermind that they know next to nothing about my personal life and the people I know and interact with) then they can be my guest. I'll have the carecups and chips and dips waiting.
no no.

When people say "I know lots of blacks" and stuff like that, people sometimes jump to conclusions.........especially on here.
I guess so... see above.

Tell me drool, given the numbers that I posted (and please don't try to deny them), could that mean that a lot of blacks are raised in those socioeconomic conditions you described? If so, what do you think could be done to fix that? (Serious question)
Stop letting the government take the place of Fathers, Family, Jobs, and Churches.  Close down the southern boarder from drugs and illegals.  Limit appeals to 1 and carry out death sentences within 3 years of conviction.  Allow gangs to be given terrorism status and prosecute them as such.  Privatise the school system with federal vouchers and allow schools to police themselves and kick people out who aren't there for learning and disrupting other students.  If you can prove that someone sells drugs charge them with murder or accessory to murder.

This is just a start off the top of my head.
2008-06-21 17:15:53
BVC
Member
+325|6925
Are there any wealth-adjusted figures available?
2008-06-21 23:01:36
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6634|North Carolina
Entitlement programs coupled with income taxes don't generally motivate people to work hard.  There is a lot of poverty in the black community, but then again, there is also a lot of poverty among Hispanics.

The difference is that Hispanics have a much stronger sense of family than blacks, and this helps contribute to their work ethic.  Also, when it comes to the illegals, well...  they get to keep more of what they earn than black people, because they aren't paying income taxes on what they make.

Personally, I think a lot of good could be done by getting rid of the income tax and moving away from welfare programs.  When people know that they get to keep more of what they earn and that they can't live off of the system, they generally try harder to support themselves.

As for how this relates to crime, the entitlement mentality has a vicious side effect to it where people become more attracted to the idea of taking what they want from people.  They feel that society owes them some kind of debt, and that getting what they "deserve" can be done violently in some cases.

Last edited by Turquoise (2008-06-21 23:04:37)

2008-06-22 09:33:00
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6755|South Florida

usmarine2 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

The difference is white people have not historically struggled with poverty and poor education.  IMO comming from a deprived communities would mean you wouyld be likely to engage in crime.
I can understand that.  But why?  Wouldn't you want to take advantage of scholarships and such and have a better life then the one you grew up in?
no they would rather shoot other blacks and walk around as drug dealing, unintellegent, criminals. Then, they go and have 6 kids and all those kids turn into it.

The 'gansta black' is like a race now. Cause rarely do kids that are born from a gangsta black, turn into a regular citizen.

Hense, the 'N' word. The 'N' race is out of control. I have absolutly, positively, NOTHING against a black guy who... well... acts like a while guy! I like black guys just as much as white guys, however it seems too many black kids are niggs
15 more years! 15 more years!
2008-06-22 09:45:57
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6412|Ireland

Mitch wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

The difference is white people have not historically struggled with poverty and poor education.  IMO comming from a deprived communities would mean you wouyld be likely to engage in crime.
I can understand that.  But why?  Wouldn't you want to take advantage of scholarships and such and have a better life then the one you grew up in?
no they would rather shoot other blacks and walk around as drug dealing, unintellegent, criminals. Then, they go and have 6 kids and all those kids turn into it.

The 'gansta black' is like a race now. Cause rarely do kids that are born from a gangsta black, turn into a regular citizen.

Hense, the 'N' word. The 'N' race is out of control. I have absolutly, positively, NOTHING against a black guy who... well... acts like a while guy! I like black guys just as much as white guys, however it seems too many black kids are niggs
So what your saying is that if they were white people doing this you'd be fine with it?

I have see people of all races be ghetto trash.  What really sickens me is all the suburbanites glamourizing the shit and being wannabes.  They need to be abducted and dropped off in the ghetto at the feet of a real gang to be ass raped and see how glamorous it is.
2008-06-22 09:53:20
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6755|South Florida

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Mitch wrote:

usmarine2 wrote:


I can understand that.  But why?  Wouldn't you want to take advantage of scholarships and such and have a better life then the one you grew up in?
no they would rather shoot other blacks and walk around as drug dealing, unintellegent, criminals. Then, they go and have 6 kids and all those kids turn into it.

The 'gansta black' is like a race now. Cause rarely do kids that are born from a gangsta black, turn into a regular citizen.

Hense, the 'N' word. The 'N' race is out of control. I have absolutly, positively, NOTHING against a black guy who... well... acts like a while guy! I like black guys just as much as white guys, however it seems too many black kids are niggs
So what your saying is that if they were white people doing this you'd be fine with it?

I have see people of all races be ghetto trash.  What really sickens me is all the suburbanites glamourizing the shit and being wannabes.  They need to be abducted and dropped off in the ghetto at the feet of a real gang to be ass raped and see how glamorous it is.
White people, for the most part, don't do this. And when they do, i hate it just as much. Hense the term Wiggers.

I guess this makes niggness a disease. Transferable to this children of other niggs and to white people who are scummy enough to let themselves catch it.

Do you see where im going here?
15 more years! 15 more years!
2008-06-22 09:57:32
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6987|Argentina

Mitch wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Mitch wrote:


no they would rather shoot other blacks and walk around as drug dealing, unintellegent, criminals. Then, they go and have 6 kids and all those kids turn into it.

The 'gansta black' is like a race now. Cause rarely do kids that are born from a gangsta black, turn into a regular citizen.

Hense, the 'N' word. The 'N' race is out of control. I have absolutly, positively, NOTHING against a black guy who... well... acts like a while guy! I like black guys just as much as white guys, however it seems too many black kids are niggs
So what your saying is that if they were white people doing this you'd be fine with it?

I have see people of all races be ghetto trash.  What really sickens me is all the suburbanites glamourizing the shit and being wannabes.  They need to be abducted and dropped off in the ghetto at the feet of a real gang to be ass raped and see how glamorous it is.
White people, for the most part, don't do this. And when they do, i hate it just as much. Hense the term Wiggers.

I guess this makes niggness a disease. Transferable to this children of other niggs and to white people who are scummy enough to let themselves catch it.

Do you see where im going here?
*cough* racist *cough*
2008-06-22 09:57:55
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6412|Ireland

Mitch wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Mitch wrote:


no they would rather shoot other blacks and walk around as drug dealing, unintellegent, criminals. Then, they go and have 6 kids and all those kids turn into it.

The 'gansta black' is like a race now. Cause rarely do kids that are born from a gangsta black, turn into a regular citizen.

Hense, the 'N' word. The 'N' race is out of control. I have absolutly, positively, NOTHING against a black guy who... well... acts like a while guy! I like black guys just as much as white guys, however it seems too many black kids are niggs
So what your saying is that if they were white people doing this you'd be fine with it?

I have see people of all races be ghetto trash.  What really sickens me is all the suburbanites glamourizing the shit and being wannabes.  They need to be abducted and dropped off in the ghetto at the feet of a real gang to be ass raped and see how glamorous it is.
White people, for the most part, don't do this. And when they do, i hate it just as much. Hense the term Wiggers.

I guess this makes niggness a disease. Transferable to this children of other niggs and to white people who are scummy enough to let themselves catch it.

Do you see where im going here?
I see you made it a racial thing and attacked blacks in your original statement when their is ghetto trash of every race.  Why do you make it just a black thing?  It is a gang problem, it is not racial.
2008-06-22 10:09:56
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6755|South Florida

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Mitch wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:


So what your saying is that if they were white people doing this you'd be fine with it?

I have see people of all races be ghetto trash.  What really sickens me is all the suburbanites glamourizing the shit and being wannabes.  They need to be abducted and dropped off in the ghetto at the feet of a real gang to be ass raped and see how glamorous it is.
White people, for the most part, don't do this. And when they do, i hate it just as much. Hense the term Wiggers.

I guess this makes niggness a disease. Transferable to this children of other niggs and to white people who are scummy enough to let themselves catch it.

Do you see where im going here?
I see you made it a racial thing and attacked blacks in your original statement when their is ghetto trash of every race.  Why do you make it just a black thing?  It is a gang problem, it is not racial.
Yeah
Im just stating observations.
Don't try to be a hero and call me a racist.

Compton, NYC, ATL, Houston, Long Beach, all these places with high gang concentration have high black concentration.

And, even where i live, in a chill small-medium sized town in Central New York, Like 80+% of kids are white, and any black kid i see has a real good chance of being ghetto. If i move down into the city, like 10 minutes away, suddenly more blacks appear! More ghetto appears! more danger appears!
15 more years! 15 more years!
2008-06-22 10:11:22
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6020|Dublin, Ohio
lol
2008-06-22 10:26:45
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6190|Washington DC
nobody ever mentions DC when they talk about ghettos
2008-06-22 10:36:04
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,978|6861|949

Mitch wrote:

Compton, NYC, ATL, Houston, Long Beach, all these places with high gang concentration have high black concentration.

And, even where i live, in a chill small-medium sized town in Central New York, Like 80+% of kids are white, and any black kid i see has a real good chance of being ghetto. If i move down into the city, like 10 minutes away, suddenly more blacks appear! More ghetto appears! more danger appears!
Tell me how much you have experienced Compton, Long Beach, and Atlanta.  MTV doesn't count.

You are an idiot.  It's ok though, because your posts prove such - at least you don't try to hide it.
2008-06-22 10:55:05
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|6995|Cambridge (UK)
OK, for some reason I can't quote Mitch's last post without being DDOS'd, so here's what I wanted to say in reply to it:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

It's not a 'black' thing, it's a 'poor' thing - it's just that there are more poor blacks in the US than there are poor whites.

It's similar, but different, in the UK - here we also have lots of poor blacks, but also lots of poor whites - and they all cause problems.
2008-06-22 11:39:43
chuyskywalker
Admin
+2,439|7077|"Frisco"

Mitch wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Mitch wrote:


White people, for the most part, don't do this. And when they do, i hate it just as much. Hense the term Wiggers.

I guess this makes niggness a disease. Transferable to this children of other niggs and to white people who are scummy enough to let themselves catch it.

Do you see where im going here?
I see you made it a racial thing and attacked blacks in your original statement when their is ghetto trash of every race.  Why do you make it just a black thing?  It is a gang problem, it is not racial.
Yeah
Im just stating observations.
Don't try to be a hero and call me a racist.

Compton, NYC, ATL, Houston, Long Beach, all these places with high gang concentration have high black concentration.

And, even where i live, in a chill small-medium sized town in Central New York, Like 80+% of kids are white, and any black kid i see has a real good chance of being ghetto. If i move down into the city, like 10 minutes away, suddenly more blacks appear! More ghetto appears! more danger appears!
Test...
2008-06-22 11:43:31
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6020|Dublin, Ohio
test
2008-06-22 11:44:42
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6850|London, England
What the fudge are you guys on about with the test thing
2008-06-22 11:56:18
usmarine2
Banned
+233|6020|Dublin, Ohio
hell if I know.  thought I would win a prize for being the first one.

 

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