What does that second part mean?? NYC is really quit now and you know why cause the econimy there is dying, I stoped and a ton of people I know stoped going there as well. And you know what that means, there's probably at least a few hundred thousand people who stoped dumping there money into your stores and bars. NYC is not the great city it once was, it's a tourist trap for all the europeeions that come here, and sooner or laterly there going to relize it's just not that interesting anymore. All the stuff that made NYC great has been bought out by disney and other retail chains that majority of the people can get in there own strip malls down the block for cheaper. And now we get to have a middle east company run our ports, there's great security.Horseman 77 wrote:
You have no clue and NYC is Really quite now... hmm I guess they fuked with the wrong guy.
Bush does your butts dry and laughs about it, He hee !
Poll
Do you hate or like Bush ???
| hate | 50% | 50% - 122 | ||||
| like | 28% | 28% - 69 | ||||
| Dont Give A Fuck | 16% | 16% - 40 | ||||
| Dont Know | 4% | 4% - 12 | ||||
| Total: 243 | ||||||
Chair force is more then most people do for there country, now while your over there protecting our right to say we don't like our president and lets face it most other countries have the same rights so that second grade love your government bullshit doesn't pan out anymore. Majority of the people are over here fighting for your right to come home to a job, a life and hopefully that same freedom your fighting for in a third world countries that was never a direct threat to us americans(Korea, Iran would have been a safer bet).HaVoK-RooKiE wrote:
Had to be a political post on here didnt there.....
Allright im in The U.S. air force, and i know what your thinking. Chair force yada yada yada but no we do convy and all of that right along side the army we go to Iraq along with the rest of them. All anyone talks about is how we should pull the troops out of Iraq and how Bush is doing a horrible job, But think what would you do after watching thousands of your fellow people get murdered by a coward. You would want some sort of revenge or justice. I know we really shouldn't still be in Iraq but we cant just leave a country unstable or another dictatorship will just take over and all the troops would have died for nothing. Also on the oil subject, alot of people say we went into Iraq because of there oil. Granted protecting it seems to be all we do now, but it isnt the number one priority. Its there countrys source of income and how else are they going to get back onto there feet after we bomb, blew up and destroyed a bunch of there city.
Now if you wouldnt mind i know you probably will just ignore my post, but give him a break and remember all the troops that are over there fighting for your right to say he is doing a poor job. For you to do alot and take for granted.
Just my 2 thoughts.
By the war I support the troops but not the reason for the fight. Also it's going to get much worse if the civil war breaks out, and that's what happens when you force people toward a movement they don't neccesarily want.
Ok the money that is going into this war is crippling our econimy serverly meaning less good paying jobs out there, Have fun being a greeter at Wallmart.
What would you do after seeing a thousand people killed?? Is that in reference of 9/11 or the war itself? In referance of 9/11 I would have probably caught the guy who was responsible for it(which the world was behind us on that) and then used some of the money that went into the war to rebuild New York(most the world would still be on our side). Instead we went into a war, which it's not even decleared a war so what would you call it?
Now in my opion are we over there for oil? I don't really think so if we wantted the oil we could have dumped the money we use to aid Isreal into Iraq for a peaceful settlement for it. Are we there for terrorist? No real proof that Iraq funded, caused, or had any ties to terrorism. I think were there to protect our western companies, Trying to stabilize the region all we ever see is them burning down McD's and KFC's so why wouldn't we go in and try to protect something that brings us lots of money.
Green Beanies = Green BeretsHorseman 77 wrote:
not that anyone would see the difference.Greenie_Beazinie wrote:
You make my penis hard Horseman
ps explain your name,
and who are those guys in your thread ?
Can I hire them to devalue a piece of property I am interested in obtaining ?
Greenie Beanie = My twist of it
Greenie_Beazinie = 2nd account because my Greenie_Beanie account wouldnt update.
The dudes in my sig are my favorite band.
And... where is the love Horseman?
I just want to say, that when Kennedy got elected a whole lot of dead people in Chicago voted for him. But nobody every complains about that.EternalDamned wrote:
Just to add in a few facts...
Bush was never legally ELECTED President.
He LOST the 2000 election, he lost the state of Florida as all the recounts proved! (don't believe it, look it up and see for yourself) The Republican controlled Supreme Court dismissed all pending cases of election fraud and ordered the results of the Florida recount to be ignored. (again, look it up it is the truth)
2004 He literally and illegally stole Ohio which is even now prosecuting people for fraud in that election, and thats not even including the incidents where voting machines assigned to heavily democratic districts were with held or left on trucks driving around until after the polls closed (this happened in Cincinnatti..15 of 18 voting machines destined for democratic area's of the city were driven around the city until after 10pm so they could not be used by democrats)
Despite the fragrant lies told by the BUSHites in Swiftboat, Kerry did NOT shoot himself in the foot to get out of combat. That was a lie, it was proven to be a lie, but the media (to say controlled is an understatement...they do have to be reviewed and their licenses approved by Collin Powells son after all) chose to bury the truth when it was proven until 2 days after the election.
George W Bush is a criminal, known to have committed insider trading...covered up by his daddy, known coke addict...has known business ties to the Taliban, Bin Laden family, current Afghan govt, interim Iraqi govt. You know I swear if anyone else had so many business dealing with the very group that attacked us on 9/11 they would have had a dozen independent counsels investigating them for treason. Oops my bad, the Republican controlled Congress gave all authority in the matter of special counsels to GWB and he refused to appoint any that might look into his possible treason. He has spent more taxpayer money in his 5 1/2 years than all the Presidents since Pre Reagan years combined and billions of it went to Haliburton in nobid contracts that despite proven fraud, Republican run Congress still refuses to investigate or even allow a full audit.
To be quite honest, I have figured a way to clean up or atleast lessen the corruption in the current White House Administration. See what we do is, swap the people in the White House, from the President down, with inmates from a maximum security penitentiary. I guarantee you, they would commit less crimes and do less harm to America and the rest of the world than this damn traitor and his leacherous buddies have and continue to do.
Next off, everybody bitches too much about the president. I mean, if Bush hadn't gone to war with somebody everybody would be pissed. Now people are pissed because he did go to war.
I would rather have him over Kerry. I mean, when I was watching the debates between Kerry and Bush, somebody said Kerry wasn't wishy-washy. Tell me, does this not sound wishy-washy: "I'll tell you why we have high medical costs, it is because we don't import drugs from Canada (it was something like this)." Then he goes on to mention how we should keep jobs in America. Well you can either keep jobs in America and have high drug costs, or you can send jobs overseas (or across the border). Plus, if you keep jobs in America prices on everything goes up. The reason shoes aren't unbelievably expensive is cause some guy makes them for 10 cents a day. Give a guy minimum wage here in the US (depends where you are, here it's close to $8) and now products need to be more expensive to cover the cost of labor.
Don't get me wrong, Bush isn't the greatest president ever, but Kerry wouldn't have been much of a better pick anyways.
http://www.wimp.com/imitation/ true true...bit of bush humour
Dry means no lube ..cpt.fass1 wrote:
What does that second part mean?? NYC is really quit now and you know why cause the econimy there is dying, I stoped and a ton of people I know stoped going there as well. And you know what that means, there's probably at least a few hundred thousand people who stoped dumping there money into your stores and bars. NYC is not the great city it once was, it's a tourist trap for all the europeeions that come here, and sooner or laterly there going to relize it's just not that interesting anymore. All the stuff that made NYC great has been bought out by disney and other retail chains that majority of the people can get in there own strip malls down the block for cheaper. And now we get to have a middle east company run our ports, there's great security.Horseman 77 wrote:
You have no clue and NYC is Really quite now... hmm I guess they fuked with the wrong guy.
Bush does your butts dry and laughs about it, He hee !
Hey I live here its cool now, Booming but no attacks They never came back and now we have them killing eachother,
But what about the granade? I'd call that an attack, and booming? I would not call it that compared to pre 9/11, you got the numbers going up since 9/11 but there not as strong as the pre 9/11 days
I got to say their is very little diffrence. the tourists still come and walk around Time Saure and the Port Auhority building. " New Yorks most ugly places. Some of the dot com.s are gone ( double click inc. ) but icpt.fass1 wrote:
But what about the granade? I'd call that an attack, and booming? I would not call it that compared to pre 9/11, you got the numbers going up since 9/11 but there not as strong as the pre 9/11 days
them anyway. The Entire Place has gone wild in the Realestate market, There are no slums in manhattan any more. The West side 40s and 40s is building up now. We could use Guiliani but other than that..
Bush is an idiot!
I suppose it's unconstitutional to keep tabs on foreign spies.
Thanks for saying that... >.<Xaritix wrote:
Bush is an idiot!
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
My feelings on Bush can be summed as this,
He has been constantly attacked from Day 1 for un quantifiable qualities.
He is mean. how do you measure that. ?
He doesn't care about blacks. how do you measure that. ?
He is Dumb ? how do you measure that. ?
The very crowd who are so quick to toss around the word "uneducated" as an insult
chooses to ignore his GPA as a yard stick.
Its like " The Emperors Cloths " everyone mimics everyone else's opinion.
Story...
A local Dejay " Howard Stern " Was saying how he thought "Jackson Pollack" was a shitty artist.
He immediately was attacked almost unanimously by one and all as
" ignorant and lacking of the keen ability to see the genius of Jackson Pollack's work. "
so
He went home Cranked out a few paintings, had them photographed, had some " Jackson Pollack " paintings Photographed as well, displayed them side by side and not one of the very vocal and condescending art critics could discern a " Stern from a Pollack " Yet they all had been very eager to acknowledge the Genius they could observe in a Jackson Pollack painting. My feeling is each and everyone of them didn't have the guts to stand up and say
" It looks like some one spilled some paint on a Canvas "
It takes some fortitude to form your own opinions and not parrot the loudest voice.
He has been constantly attacked from Day 1 for un quantifiable qualities.
He is mean. how do you measure that. ?
He doesn't care about blacks. how do you measure that. ?
He is Dumb ? how do you measure that. ?
The very crowd who are so quick to toss around the word "uneducated" as an insult
chooses to ignore his GPA as a yard stick.
Its like " The Emperors Cloths " everyone mimics everyone else's opinion.
Story...
A local Dejay " Howard Stern " Was saying how he thought "Jackson Pollack" was a shitty artist.
He immediately was attacked almost unanimously by one and all as
" ignorant and lacking of the keen ability to see the genius of Jackson Pollack's work. "
so
He went home Cranked out a few paintings, had them photographed, had some " Jackson Pollack " paintings Photographed as well, displayed them side by side and not one of the very vocal and condescending art critics could discern a " Stern from a Pollack " Yet they all had been very eager to acknowledge the Genius they could observe in a Jackson Pollack painting. My feeling is each and everyone of them didn't have the guts to stand up and say
" It looks like some one spilled some paint on a Canvas "
It takes some fortitude to form your own opinions and not parrot the loudest voice.
yea the party in charge can ask for a realection at any time, often its just a way of staying in for an extra 5 years, you know "we are popular now quick lets get ourselves an extra 2 or 3 years on power". What i don't get about bush is that i see documentaries, quite a few made by Americans, which go on about how American needs better health, education and law programs, and these are clearly big problems, but Bush is spending all the money bombing people in other countries who MIGHT be terrorists.Stealth42o wrote:
To my knoledge, in the UK, they can ask for a re elcection at any givin time. Non of this 4 year bs. I think they are onto something.
Correct me if I am wrong.
(excuse my rubbish punctuation:))
We measure intelligence using scores etc. Also we use his performance intellectually in office.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
We, ? Ahem....Spark wrote:
We measure intelligence using scores etc. Also we use his performance intellectually in office.
" Also we use his performance intellectually in office. "
How about just judging his ( performance ) period?
The War started for America in 1993, after 6 or more separate attacks in the previous administration. Since Bush took office They have not attacked us after again after 911.
Bush is fighting a War that was ignored by others and ignoring it cost the USA dearly.
WWII took about 6 years to complete the last Japanese soldier finally surrendered in 1972.
Look at the time and effort we put into Japan and Germany after the war. Are these people not worth it? and if not why ?
Can you imagine the world today if we had lost or nerve before WWII was won.
Cancel the " We " stuff and think for yourself. That's all I ask of anyone.
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Man I could give a dam. The only thing I like is that he isn't afraid of going to war, not to mention he pisses off the rest of the world (which I also like).
I like Tony Blair, he's a lot better than the Tories i hope they never get in as long as i live. Tony Blair has helped the country out of a lot of the problems Maggie caused, the problem is he slipped up with the Iraq war thing and he is starting to get a bit too tight on the national security issue, but thats ok he is going to resign in 2 years (i think it was).N[]thing wrote:
Hey dude. I'm also from the UK but to be fair.... Doesnt the same apply with Tony Blair...
Last election every1 said they hated tony blair in the run up and are against all his policies and views on the war on iraq....yet he still managaed 2 stay on. so....
Politics aside I think Bush is probably an ok guy.But to me he seems to be always out of his depth and is just not the type of person who I would like to be leading my country.It is wrong to hate someone because of their beliefs.I find it hard to even dislike someone who has opposing views to my own.If anything he makes me laugh.
Clinton and Bush are comedy gold.
Clinton and Bush are comedy gold.
the biggest difference between Bush and clinton is When They attacked WTC in clinton's administration, clinton only jerked off ( after all 6 or 8 attacks ). Sadly, I am speaking literally about the guy.pokerplaya wrote:
Politics aside I think Bush is probably an ok guy.But to me he seems to be always out of his depth and is just not the type of person who I would like to be leading my country.It is wrong to hate someone because of their beliefs.I find it hard to even dislike someone who has opposing views to my own.If anything he makes me laugh.
Clinton and Bush are comedy gold.
Bush hit back, Hard, and quickly... not one more attack.
You know, being Commander-in-Chief of the US isn't exactly the world's most forgiving job. People should really give considerable thought as to what the president's job specifically entails [which does NOT involve micromanagement of every single aspect of government (unless you're Nixon), by the way, but is stressful enough], and how much free (and sleep time) they're allowed between the bullshit.
Remember how young Clinton looked before his first term?
Remember how young Clinton looked before his first term?
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Uhhhhh ya........with comments like this your credibility as someone who might have something to offer this discussion is pretty much shot...But 1 thing you have shown us, the mental capacity of the democrats and all of there rhetoric. Democrats like you are the best thing that has ever happened to the republican party.atlvolunteer wrote:
Are you on crack? MLK was shot in Memphis.S4INT05 wrote:
it sucks that our good presidents get assinated. lincoln, JFK..then our bad ones stay in office for more than they need to. Bush should be shot. IN TEXAS like everybody else. JFK, MLK...funny how both were shot in Dallas.
If the president wanted to be viewed as moderately intelligent, he could have started by
A) Learning how to use the english language and
B) Seeing a speech therapist who could teach him to not constantly trip over his own tongue.
I mean, how can you respect any american as an intellectual if they don't even speak the native language properly.
The rest is just icing on the cake as to why most of the population consider him "dumb". I mean, you'd think for the highest profile public speaker in the country, we could expect a little more.
A) Learning how to use the english language and
B) Seeing a speech therapist who could teach him to not constantly trip over his own tongue.
I mean, how can you respect any american as an intellectual if they don't even speak the native language properly.
The rest is just icing on the cake as to why most of the population consider him "dumb". I mean, you'd think for the highest profile public speaker in the country, we could expect a little more.
Well the guy is human and not a robot........If you can't look past his slip ups in proper annunciation and go with the meaning of his message then you are truly grasping at straws to debunk him.Torin wrote:
If the president wanted to be viewed as moderately intelligent, he could have started by
A) Learning how to use the english language and
B) Seeing a speech therapist who could teach him to not constantly trip over his own tongue.
I mean, how can you respect any american as an intellectual if they don't even speak the native language properly.
The rest is just icing on the cake as to why most of the population consider him "dumb". I mean, you'd think for the highest profile public speaker in the country, we could expect a little more.
awww you ruined his big consiracy thread. roflmao fartinglowing wrote:
Uhhhhh ya........with comments like this your credibility as someone who might have something to offer this discussion is pretty much shot...But 1 thing you have shown us, the mental capacity of the democrats and all of there rhetoric. Democrats like you are the best thing that has ever happened to the republican party.atlvolunteer wrote:
Are you on crack? MLK was shot in Memphis.S4INT05 wrote:
it sucks that our good presidents get assinated. lincoln, JFK..then our bad ones stay in office for more than they need to. Bush should be shot. IN TEXAS like everybody else. JFK, MLK...funny how both were shot in Dallas.
How funny that hillarys name starts with h and " husband " is spelled with h. how funny is that !
You are well out of your depth, as a friend I would ask you to find something else to occupy your time.Torin wrote:
If the president wanted to be viewed as moderately intelligent, he could have started by
A) Learning how to use the english language and
B) Seeing a speech therapist who could teach him to not constantly trip over his own tongue.
I mean, how can you respect any american as an intellectual if they don't even speak the native language properly.
The rest is just icing on the cake as to why most of the population consider him "dumb". I mean, you'd think for the highest profile public speaker in the country, we could expect a little more.