Do you deny that Jesus is one of the most important prophets in Islam?Stingray24 wrote:
Your slant on the Christian and Muslim view of Christ is simply incorrect. But your opinion of the Bible is stated above so I'm not surprised.Bertster7 wrote:
Also, the Bible is full of shit.
I'm not debating the endorsement's merits. Endorsements always have a dark side. I'm referring to the idea that McCain = Hitler.Masques wrote:
I know there are many people here who are non-plussed at comments calling for the destruction of Islam or Arabs, but MANY posters on here have been called Anti-Semites for even mild criticism of Israeli foreign policy. McCain seeks out the endorsement of a man blaming the Holocaust on Jews and another calling for the same treatment of Muslims and yet...nary a peep out of some here.Pug wrote:
I think you're overstating the facts.rammunition wrote:
with this "spiritual guide" saying he wants islam to be destroyed is like Bin Laden saying he wants the west/non-believers to be killed/destroyed.
thats would make him an extremist aswell
If McCain becomes president, then we are all in trouble
This is not credible at all.
I agree that McCain, though his ideas are outmoded, is probably not racist or bigoted.Pug wrote:
I'm not debating the endorsement's merits. Endorsements always have a dark side. I'm referring to the idea that McCain = Hitler.Masques wrote:
I know there are many people here who are non-plussed at comments calling for the destruction of Islam or Arabs, but MANY posters on here have been called Anti-Semites for even mild criticism of Israeli foreign policy. McCain seeks out the endorsement of a man blaming the Holocaust on Jews and another calling for the same treatment of Muslims and yet...nary a peep out of some here.Pug wrote:
I think you're overstating the facts.
This is not credible at all.
No different than some of the stuff Obama's doing, IMO. The "no big money campaign" gimmick for example.Masques wrote:
I agree that McCain, though his ideas are outmoded, is probably not racist or bigoted.
But which is worse, someone who is openly bigoted or someone who, while not bigoted, panders to and stokes such sentiments to get a vote? I'm thinking of both Clinton and McCain here.
Good on him. Best thing to do is purge these crazies asap
Oh snap! Another Christian conservative cleaned out.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Good on him. Best thing to do is purge these crazies asap
Now McCain rejects Rod Parsley’s endorsementWASHINGTON: Senator John McCain, in a provocative and politically risky speech, sharply criticized leaders of the religious right on Monday as "agents of intolerance" allied to his rival, Governor George W. Bush, and denounced what he said were the tactics of "division and slander."
Specifically, Mr. McCain singled out the evangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell as "corrupting influences on religion and politics" and said parts of the religious right were divisive and even un-American.
The nut jobs in his party have traditionally pandered to these religious types.Spark wrote:
The sad thing is McCain is probably doing it just to placate the nutjobs within his own party... who coincidentally have a lot of power.
he gets a +1 from me for distancing himself from these people.Mek-Stizzle wrote:
Good on him. Best thing to do is purge these crazies asap
Bad form. Your post doesn't work because of one word.Bertster7 wrote:
Do you deny that Jesus is one of the most important prophets in Islam?Stingray24 wrote:
Your slant on the Christian and Muslim view of Christ is simply incorrect. But your opinion of the Bible is stated above so I'm not surprised.Bertster7 wrote:
Also, the Bible is full of shit.
Therefore Muslims believe he is one of the most important people ever to have lived. Therefore Muslims are not anti-Christ.
Just because one isn't a bleeding heart, doesn't make them a nut job.Spark wrote:
The sad thing is McCain is probably doing it just to placate the nutjobs within his own party... who coincidentally have a lot of power.
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Wait, what?rammunition wrote:
media and U.S administration is run by the Christian right and they will continue to hide this.
he took his time and only rejected this idiot after he said "hitler was doing gods work", he still hasn't distanced himself from the comments of destroying Islam.
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McCain has "distanced himself" from religious intolerance all together. I suggest you investigate what he said in response.rammunition wrote:
he still hasn't distanced himself from the comments of destroying Islam.
and just read the updated bit about ron parsley, the "rejection" doesn't seem convincing to me
He never said that he thought Hitler was doing gods work. Hagee was just reading prophecies from the old testament. He was responding to the question of "how could god let that happen to the Jewish". The media and feeble minded ran with it. Hagee is actually a supporter of Israel. He founded Christians for Israel. http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer?pag … john_hageerammunition wrote:
he took his time and only rejected this idiot after he said "hitler was doing gods work",
Your thread was based ignorance from the start. Hagee isn't even Mccains Pastor.rammunition wrote:
have you heard of John McCain's pastor?
You're right. Most conservatives aren't nutjobs, but most of the Religious Right is...DBBrinson1 wrote:
Just because one isn't a bleeding heart, doesn't make them a nut job.Spark wrote:
The sad thing is McCain is probably doing it just to placate the nutjobs within his own party... who coincidentally have a lot of power.
And to address the op... NO.
Meh not the one's I know personally in power. They ate actually quite nice.Turquoise wrote:
You're right. Most conservatives aren't nutjobs, but most of the Religious Right is...DBBrinson1 wrote:
Just because one isn't a bleeding heart, doesn't make them a nut job.Spark wrote:
The sad thing is McCain is probably doing it just to placate the nutjobs within his own party... who coincidentally have a lot of power.
And to address the op... NO.
Aren't you a theocon as well?DBBrinson1 wrote:
Meh not the one's I know personally in power. They ate actually quite nice.Turquoise wrote:
You're right. Most conservatives aren't nutjobs, but most of the Religious Right is...DBBrinson1 wrote:
Just because one isn't a bleeding heart, doesn't make them a nut job.
And to address the op... NO.
who?paul386 wrote:
- Ron Paul
Tell Ron that he shouldn't let Lew Rockwell write racist diatribes in his name if he wants to be taken seriously on the topic of racism.paul386 wrote:
"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups."
- Ron Paul
I recon a lot of you are racists by that definition.
Perfect.Turquoise wrote:
Tell Ron that he shouldn't let Lew Rockwell write racist diatribes in his name if he wants to be taken seriously on the topic of racism.paul386 wrote:
"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups."
- Ron Paul
I recon a lot of you are racists by that definition.
I consider that a pretty accurate definition.paul386 wrote:
"Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than as individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups."
- Ron Paul
I recon a lot of you are racists by that definition.