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Vilham wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

It's like talking to a wall.

Poseidon wrote:

You have the kind of "I'm right, you're wrong, end of discussion" elitist attitude that I've seen from quite a few members here.

Guess I was right, eh?

So lets see.. what have you proved so far...

You have an opinion apparently, but this opinion involves no statements of opinion.
You fail at searching to see what a site actually is.
You base whether a game is good on metacritic.

I think thats a few to name. You have zero debating skills. After 2 pages of arguing that you have an opinion on these games you have yet to actually post any evidence for such an opinion. You sir fail, on an epic scale. There is no "end of discussion" to end with you, your not having a discussion as your not debating unless slighted comments are debate...

And if you still manage to not post any reasoning behind your "opinion" you claim to have in your next post im gunna have to assume exactly what i have from the start, that you have no opinion of your own. Lets go back to the start and see if you can debate with your own opinion you claim to have...

Poseidon wrote:

...Uncharted? Bioshock? Um..

Please dont tell me you think bioshock had better gameplay than system shock or deus ex, because it doesnt. Uncharted is very good though, but only once through and therefore automatically gets knocked off the list.

This time lets try to see if you can reply as to why these games are amazing with some detail on your opinion rather than just a metacritic score and a claim its amazing.

Last edited by Poseidon (2008-05-07 16:03:12)

justice wrote:

Crysis single player, is one of the best games I've ever played, same goes for everyone else I know that has played it. Granted multiplayer is shit, but for a game like crysis, you judge on single player first.

Bioshock- Great game

Gears of war - great game

And you ask everyone who has played them and the MAJORITY will agree, so Vilham your side of the arguement sort of falls over at the first hurdle.

Vilham wrote:

wow... poseidon i think you finally did it, you came up with something of your own opinion.. /golfclap

You can come join the adults at the debating table if you want now. Im sure daddy and mummy will be very proud.

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Poseidon wrote:

Vilham wrote:

lol i love the fact that you are unwilling to try to bring up a counter to my points. It took you seventy five posts to finally come up with your so called "opinion" I would say its a pretty deserved mocking. In future instead of arguing about how you have an opinion PROVE IT straight up rather than waiting 24 hours.

I reiterate my statement. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. Or Terry Schiavo.

And why would I come up with a comparison of why Bioshock is better than SystemShock when I've never played it?

Your whole arguement is fucking stupid.

Vilham wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Vilham wrote:

lol i love the fact that you are unwilling to try to bring up a counter to my points. It took you seventy five posts to finally come up with your so called "opinion" I would say its a pretty deserved mocking. In future instead of arguing about how you have an opinion PROVE IT straight up rather than waiting 24 hours.

I reiterate my statement. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. Or Terry Schiavo.

And why would I come up with a comparison of why Bioshock is better than SystemShock when I've never played it?

Your whole arguement is fucking stupid.

EXACTLY YOU HAVE NEVER PLAYED IT! Thank you case closed.

You try to claim Bioshock is better than its predecessors in graphics and gameplay, yet you have NEVER played them. The simple fact is that games in series are going down the drain because of graphic whores. If you havent played the previous games how can you have an opinion on it. You dont. You just spent 3 pages arguing about something you just admitted you have no clue about!

lol Poseidon I love your arguments, you such a fan boy you dont even know what your arguing about.

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Poseidon wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I reiterate my statement. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. Or Terry Schiavo.

And why would I come up with a comparison of why Bioshock is better than SystemShock when I've never played it?

Your whole arguement is fucking stupid.

EXACTLY YOU HAVE NEVER PLAYED IT! Thank you case closed.

You try to claim Bioshock is better than its predecessors in graphics and gameplay, yet you have NEVER played them. The simple fact is that games in series are going down the drain because of graphic whores. If you havent played the previous games how can you have an opinion on it. You dont. You just spent 3 pages arguing about something you just admitted you have no clue about!

lol Poseidon I love your arguments, you such a fan boy you dont even know what your arguing about.

Were you dropped on the head as a baby or can you just not read?

Not ONCE, not ONCE did I EVER say that Bioshock was better than SystemShock. I simply said that saying Bioshock is bad because of "good graphics" is a daft statement, which it is.

If I haven't played the previous games I can't have an opinion on it? What the fuck kind of stupid comment is that? Do you know how many people hadn't played SystemShock before playing Bioshock? So just because of that, their opinions are invalid? What a stupid, stupid, stupid comment. Then again, that's expected of you.

A fan boy, eh? Really? Oh yeah, even though I have a 360 as well as a PS3 and like them both almost equally, I'm a fan boy. You got me. Times like these I really wish I could see what's going inside people's heads when they post uneducated things like you do.

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Vilham wrote:

EXACTLY YOU HAVE NEVER PLAYED IT! Thank you case closed.

You try to claim Bioshock is better than its predecessors in graphics and gameplay, yet you have NEVER played them. The simple fact is that games in series are going down the drain because of graphic whores. If you havent played the previous games how can you have an opinion on it. You dont. You just spent 3 pages arguing about something you just admitted you have no clue about!

lol Poseidon I love your arguments, you such a fan boy you dont even know what your arguing about.

Were you dropped on the head as a baby or can you just not read?

Not ONCE, not ONCE did I EVER say that Bioshock was better than SystemShock. I simply said that saying Bioshock is bad because of "good graphics" is a daft statement, which it is.

If I haven't played the previous games I can't have an opinion on it? What the fuck kind of stupid comment is that? Do you know how many people hadn't played SystemShock before playing Bioshock? So just because of that, their opinions are invalid? What a stupid, stupid, stupid comment. Then again, that's expected of you.

A fan boy, eh? Really? Oh yeah, even though I have a 360 as well as a PS3 and like them both almost equally, I'm a fan boy. You got me. Times like these I really wish I could see what's going inside people's heads when they post uneducated things like you do.

Vilham never said it was bad, he was just saying that with the iprovement of graphics, gameplay and storyline (what really counts) have steadily decreased from sequel to sequel.

justice wrote:

Vilham wrote:

justice wrote:

Crysis single player, is one of the best games I've ever played, same goes for everyone else I know that has played it. Granted multiplayer is shit, but for a game like crysis, you judge on single player first.

Bioshock- Great game

Gears of war - great game

And you ask everyone who has played them and the MAJORITY will agree, so Vilham your side of the arguement sort of falls over at the first hurdle.

I think you will find actually if you ask anyone who played Crysis and played Farcry which one is better they would nearly all say Farcry.
I think you will find actually if you ask anyone who played Bioshock and played Deus Ex/System shock which one is better they would nearly all say Deus Ex/System shock.

And if one game is better than another, does it mean the other one is shit? no, it just mean it's not as great. I've never played Farcry, but I've played Crysis SP, and it's amazing, regardless of how good Farcry is or isn't, it's amazing....My whole clan played it, and everyone thought it was great, 90 % of people I've seen talk about it or state opinion about it, they've said it's great....so that is a majority actually (SP im talking about here)

Bioshock, most people say it's good, comparing to another game is irrelevant, again a majority if you ask me.

However, I think you need to stop comparing games and take them on their merit.

my 2 cents, I'm not getting involved in your dispute anymore....carry on, please do, preferably over PM's.

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Vilham never said it was bad, he was just saying that with the iprovement of graphics, gameplay and storyline (what really counts) have steadily decreased from sequel to sequel.

And there's absolutely no proof of that. None. At all. And I, the critics, and many MANY other users will disagree with you. As I said, to say that gameplay and storyline has decreased from graphics is an incredibly daft statement. You know...computer technology increases over the years...it's not like they have to take ages to make better graphics. You're both underestimating the gaming industry heavily.

Do you think GTA 2 was better than GTA: Vice City just because of graphics? Didn't think so.

because back then the entire industry was completely different.

With the next generation consoles people are coming to gaming because it looks good, why waste time and money on gameplay and storyline, when you make just as much money for good graphics and shitloads of advertisement?

Vilham wrote:

No EA cares about pumping out the exact same game with new players so that they can make even more money off the stupid people who buy the game.