commandochristian
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Tooling around on wikipedia (click for page), came across this, thought it was interesting.

Currently, everyone/we (aka the world) say "two-thousand-and-X," but apparently we'll eventually switch over to saying it in a pattern similar to before, the example being 1911 was read "nineteen-eleven," thus 2011 should and apparently will be said "twenty-eleven," not two-thousand-and-eleven." Read on.

Wikipedia wrote:

Among experts and the general public, there is a debate as to how specific years of the 21st century, including 2011, should be pronounced in English. Although the majority of English-speakers say "two thousand (and) X" for any specific year post–1999, it is often suggested that the continuation of this type of pronunciation for the entire 21st century would be inappropriate or unnatural, given the alternative "twenty X" option.

Many experts agree that majority usage of "two thousand (and) X" is a result of influences from the Y2K hype, as well as the way "2001" was pronounced in the influential 1968 film, 2001: A Space Odyssey. Experts also suggest that since former years such as 1805 and 1905 were commonly pronounced as "eighteen oh" or "nineteen oh" five, the year 2005 should naturally have been pronounced as "twenty oh-five".[1]

Many people, ranging from linguistic and academic experts to Internet bloggers, predict that the "twenty X" pronunciation method will eventually prevail, but a timeframe as to when this change will occur often differs. The year 2010 is suggested by many,[2][3] while 2011[1] and 2013 are popular as well. The latest timeframe for change is usually placed at 2020[1] or 2100.

According to a recent press release, David Crystal, author of the Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language, has predicted that the change will occur in 2011, to "twenty eleven", explaining that the way people pronounce years depends on rhythm, rather than logic. Crystal claims that the rhythm or "flow" of "two thousand (and) ten", beats out that of "twenty ten", but the flow of "twenty eleven" beats out "two thousand (and) eleven".[1] Alternatively, Ian Brookes, editor-in-chief of Chambers Dictionary, suggests the change will occur in 2013. The UK Times has suggested 2020 as a final timeframe for the change, saying "If people can have “twenty-twenty” vision, then surely they should also live in the year “twenty twenty”."[1]

It is noted that, the 2010 Winter Olympic Games, taking place in Vancouver, Canada, are being officially referred to as "the twenty-ten Olympics",the 2011 Rugby World Cup officially as "the New Zealand twenty-eleven Rugby World Cup". The London olympics, taking place in 2012, are also being officially referred to by London 2012 as "the twenty-twelve Olympics". Chicago 2016, which operates the official Chicago bid for the 2016 games, refers to the "twenty-sixteen games".
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6828|UK
Heh, I'd never thought about that. Interesting post.
djphetal
Go Ducks.
+346|6537|Oregon
Here's a list of what sounds right to me, and what I will most likely say (to start out with):

Two-thousand ten
Two-thousand eleven
Twenty Twelve
Two-thousand thirteen
Two-thousand fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen...
Twenty Twenty -one, -two, and ongoing.


of course, those will probably change to conform to whatever everyone else says, but that was just off the top of my head.
oChaos.Haze
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Doesn't it make logical sense to say that after you cross into the teens?  I mean two thousand eleven is 6 syllables.  Twenty Eleven is 5.  Therefore just by pure laziness, no logic involved, of course people are going to say that. 

I mean if it's 2347, you think people are going to say "it's two thousand three hundred and forty seven AD"?

Last edited by oChaos.Haze (2008-05-05 13:36:53)

liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6828|UK
djphetal, do you not say "Two-thousand and ten"? I do when I say it. Or at least, I say: "Two-thousand n ten"
commandochristian
Honda - The Power of Dreams
+293|6614|Michigan, USA

What's more awkward with the years is what to call this decade.  As in, the last two decades were the '90's (read nineties) and the '80's (read eighties), so wth is this decade going to be called!?!?
oChaos.Haze
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commandochristian wrote:

What's more awkward with the years is what to call this decade.  As in, the last two decades were the '90's (read nineties) and the '80's (read eighties), so wth is this decade going to be called!?!?
Good Q.  The Zeros? 

The Millenium Decade?

The decade of the George Foreman Grill?

https://blogs.creativecow.net/files/u3/iGrill.jpg

Last edited by oChaos.Haze (2008-05-05 13:41:35)

kylef
Gone
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This really is a fascinating time to live, huh!
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6828|UK

kylef wrote:

This really is a fascinating time to live, huh!
What will all these exciting grammar tips too!

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FatherTed
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commandochristian wrote:

What's more awkward with the years is what to call this decade.  As in, the last two decades were the '90's (read nineties) and the '80's (read eighties), so wth is this decade going to be called!?!?
I swear they're refered to as the "noughties"
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tkoi
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I was annoyed back in 2001 when the norm became two-thousand-one. I wanted to say twenty-oh-one!
mkxiii
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FatherTed wrote:

commandochristian wrote:

What's more awkward with the years is what to call this decade.  As in, the last two decades were the '90's (read nineties) and the '80's (read eighties), so wth is this decade going to be called!?!?
I swear they're refered to as the "noughties"
thats what i was going to say
ive heard that used a lot
avman633
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I have never actually noticed that the way I was saying the years have changed.
Xblade-3o5-
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Guys what's the point We won't get past 2012 anyways




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Lol j/k
r2zoo
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I dont ever recall refering to 1901 as "nineteen-hundred and one", always said "nineteen-o-one" and so on for the other single digits and doubles.

Ill continue referring to 2011 as "two-thousand eleven"
NateW
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r2zoo wrote:

I dont ever recall refering to 1901 as "nineteen-hundred and one", always said "nineteen-o-one" and so on for the other single digits and doubles.

Ill continue referring to 2011 as "two-thousand eleven"
But you can't. Wikipedia says so.
commandochristian
Honda - The Power of Dreams
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NateWiese wrote:

r2zoo wrote:

I dont ever recall refering to 1901 as "nineteen-hundred and one", always said "nineteen-o-one" and so on for the other single digits and doubles.

Ill continue referring to 2011 as "two-thousand eleven"
But you can't. Wikipedia says so.
You MUST obey wikipedia!
GodFather
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liquidat0r wrote:

Heh, I'd never thought about that. Interesting post.
qft, ask me in person and ill say Two Thousand and Eleven

if I read it, however I think twenty eleven





This is kind of annoying me, great post though
SEREMAKER
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i say it like " two O eight "
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Freezer7Pro
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I can't imagine saying anything but two-thousand X, as it's really quick in swedish (Tvåtusen ett (1), två (2), tre (3), fyra, fem, etc), even teens work quickly, Elva (11) tolv (12) tretton, fjorton, etc, but coming up in the 20's, I'll probably say 20-20, 20-21, etc, as they make it sound leet. (tjugo-tjugo (2020), tjugo-tju'ett (2021), tjugo-tju'två (2022)
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GodFather
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Freezer7Pro wrote:

I can't imagine saying anything but two-thousand X, as it's really quick in swedish (Tvåtusen ett (1), två (2), tre (3), fyra, fem, etc), even teens work quickly, Elva (11) tolv (12) tretton, fjorton, etc, but coming up in the 20's, I'll probably say 20-20, 20-21, etc, as they make it sound leet. (tjugo-tjugo (2020), tjugo-tju'ett (2021), tjugo-tju'två (2022)
twenty one, forty two




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Ender2309
has joined the GOP
+470|6772|USA
using and in numerals is incorrect except when referring to parts. IE 3 and 3/4.

i've always just said 2008, no and. i dunno why anybody would add an and. it just sounds stupid to me.
rh27
Not really a Brit
+51|6798|England

FatherTed wrote:

commandochristian wrote:

What's more awkward with the years is what to call this decade.  As in, the last two decades were the '90's (read nineties) and the '80's (read eighties), so wth is this decade going to be called!?!?
I swear they're refered to as the "noughties"
They are, at least nationally on television here at any rate. Same with pretty much everyone I know too.
Tehremos
Parcel of ol' Crams
+128|6609|Somersetshire

mkxiii wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

commandochristian wrote:

What's more awkward with the years is what to call this decade.  As in, the last two decades were the '90's (read nineties) and the '80's (read eighties), so wth is this decade going to be called!?!?
I swear they're refered to as the "noughties"
thats what i was going to say
ive heard that used a lot
sounds kinky, the noughties i mean lol

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