GC_PaNzerFIN
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but lets make one thing clear again. the CPU temp is NOT 16c with 1.42V vcore! there is something wrong with the CPU temp monitoring. One BIOS version thought my quad idles at 15c.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-04-23 06:14:36)

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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

but lets make one thing clear again. the CPU temp is NOT 16c with 1.42V vcore! there is something wrong with the CPU temp monitoring. One BIOS version thought my quad idles at 15c.
It is, when blowing full

Right now it's 30°C, but the CPU fan is at 40% and the I've got the front door of the case closed which gives it less airflow.

Also, bear in mind that my computer is on the floor close to my window which was open, and it's 9°C outside

Temps have always been correct, they slowly go from 30°C idle down to 19°C idle.

If I have my case fans all on low and go ingame, the temps go up to high 50s, which is a logical temperature.
jamiet757
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You have speedstep enabled, at idle your core is only running at 2.2Ghz, that is why the temp gets so low, at that speed it isn't putting out much heat.

And notice how everest is telling you the temp of the cpu is 9 degrees, where realtemp is showing 17 and 21 degrees, and the other is 19 and 23, so obviously your temp sensors are not accurate, and the programs you are using to measure them are inconsistent, so I wouldn't believe anything they tell you.

Last edited by jamiet757 (2008-04-23 09:11:29)

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Window closed, front panel door closed, fans on mininum, currently idling at 35 °C.

Huge difference.

GTX is idling at 64°C according to everest.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
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I haven't seen any E6600 with 1.42vcore to idle at 16c!!! that is just not possbile unless your ambient temps are freezing. not even the best LC cooling in the world can do that and I have seen enough reviews of that Asus cooler to tell you it is not correct temp. I could have posted here my Q6600 G0 idling at 10c but because I know it is bs I didn't.

edit: I had open setup with 3x 12cm fans blowing cold air from my windows over the cpu area and my idle temps with E6750 were over 27c OC'ed.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-04-23 09:22:29)

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Then how do you explain that it just slowly drops one degree at a time down to 16°C after I crank all my fans up with an open window?
GC_PaNzerFIN
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PBAsydney wrote:

Then how do you explain that it just slowly drops one degree at a time down to 16°C after I crank all my fans up with an open window?
When I flashed my BIOS to different version, my temps shown were 35c idle, then it suddenly went down to 9c and then climbed to 15c and so on.... my point is don't believe every temp monitoring software you got there, not even BIOS readings.

edit: of course the cpu temp goes down with 100% fan speeds. but if the reading is already false in the beginning, it is still false after cranking up the fan speed you know....

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-04-23 09:26:33)

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I'm fairly confident that they are correct, remember that it's sitting under a window that's taking in 9°C air and I got extremely good air flow in there.
GC_PaNzerFIN
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please check ur idle voltage and frequenzy with lastest cpu-z and report back. I doubt it is getting 1.42V like you said if it idles at 20c...
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

please check ur idle voltage and frequenzy with lastest cpu-z and report back. I doubt it is getting 1.42V like you said if it idles at 20c...
1.424V

FSB 380
Multiplier 6
Frequency 2280 MHz
Core0: 17°C
Core1: 20°C

Goes up to 3420 when multiplier goes to 9

I think I'll lend my sister's camera and make a video of my setup and the temps dropping.

Last edited by PBAsydney (2008-04-23 12:36:18)

Stormscythe
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Could you please stop arguing about IDLE TEMPS OF 16°C at an AMBIENT TEMPERATURE OF 18°C?
That is THERMODYNAMICALLY IMPOSSIBLE! You can not cool any system below ambient temperature without a heat engine (such as a refrigerator) and simple heatpipe systems are far from that (especially that Asus Arctic Sqaure of yours, lol).

Fact is: Your temperature sensors on the motherboard are screwed up. None of your read temperatures is correct unless an invisible load of dry ice is infront of your intake fan.


With kind regards,
Stormscythe

PS: If you try to give any arguments in return to my posts, you fail and should try some serious water cooling. Put your PC straight into your bathtub, as your water probably doesn't conduct electricity, just as your CPU cools below room temperature.

Last edited by Stormscythe (2008-04-23 13:21:16)

.Sup
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PBAsydney wrote:

More temps for you

I guess everest lied about my GPU temp, rivatuner reports it as 45°C not 37°C.
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/4 … 907a16.jpg

Ambient temperature is about 18°C in my room I think.

edit:
BIOS:
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/4 … 637120.jpg
Dude i'm telling you the last time: download Real temp!!!
https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png
Stormscythe
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.Sup wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

More temps for you

I guess everest lied about my GPU temp, rivatuner reports it as 45°C not 37°C.
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/4 … 907a16.jpg

Ambient temperature is about 18°C in my room I think.

edit:
BIOS:
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/4 … 637120.jpg
Dude i'm telling you the last time: download Real temp!!!
On the first screenshot, he's got a realtemp window open, again, showing incorrect values.
I especially like the -2° at Temp3 (speedfan). Should we tell this poor guy that if his _ambient temperature_ drops below a certain point, condensation might well destroy all of his "amazingly cool" hardware? I think... not.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
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Yes. I don't care about videos of ur temp dropping. Your sensors are giving wrong temps.
16c idle temps with that high vcore is simply not possible. Hell, do you want some screen that shows how I have 14c idle temps with my quad... you get the point... 
You DON'T HAVE THE BEST COOLER IN THE WORLD AND UR CPU DOESN'T RUN COOLER THAN EVEYONE ELSE'S! Just damn temp sensors going crazyy. 
How hard is it to understand. I know many great finnish OC gurus and even they didn't have that good temps with heavy custom watercooling.
I have had like 5 Core 2 CPUs. None of them idled under 27c even with ridiculous airflow from window.
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Stormscythe
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GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

Yes. I don't care about videos of ur temp dropping. Your sensors are giving wrong temps.
16c idle temps with that high vcore is simply not possible. Hell, do you want some screen that shows how I have 14c idle temps with my quad... you get the point... 
You DON'T HAVE THE BEST COOLER IN THE WORLD AND UR CPU DOESN'T RUN COOLER THAN EVEYONE ELSE'S! Just damn temp sensors going crazyy. 
How hard is it to understand. I know many great finnish OC gurus and even they didn't have that good temps with heavy custom watercooling.
I have had like 5 Core 2 CPUs. None of them idled under 27c even with ridiculous airflow from window.
<sighs>

Could we simply agree on the fact that my point is correct and your arguments won't lead anywhere? He's too stubborn to accept experience, maybe he'll just accept physics and reality. And that is: 16°C are well possible, however, not at a higher ambient temperature (regardless of the Vcore). And I highly doubt 16°C are possible at even 10°C and again, at this point, I'd fear about condensed air humidity (aka. water).
.Sup
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Stormscythe wrote:

.Sup wrote:

PBAsydney wrote:

More temps for you

I guess everest lied about my GPU temp, rivatuner reports it as 45°C not 37°C.
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/4 … 907a16.jpg

Ambient temperature is about 18°C in my room I think.

edit:
BIOS:
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/4 … 637120.jpg
Dude i'm telling you the last time: download Real temp!!!
On the first screenshot, he's got a realtemp window open, again, showing incorrect values.
I especially like the -2° at Temp3 (speedfan). Should we tell this poor guy that if his _ambient temperature_ drops below a certain point, condensation might well destroy all of his "amazingly cool" hardware? I think... not.
Ur right, sry Sydney. Try this then:
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
or Everest. Core temp was released today.
https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png
Stormscythe
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.Sup wrote:

Ur right, sry Sydney*. Try this then:
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
or Everest. Core temp was released today.
No matter what program he'll use, they'll all say what his sensors say. And those LIE!

* wtf?
.Sup
be nice
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Stormscythe wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Ur right, sry Sydney*. Try this then:
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
or Everest. Core temp was released today.
No matter what program he'll use, they'll all say what his sensors say. And those LIE!

* wtf?
I was apologizing to Sydney. I don't see why his DTS would be broken. Other Q6600s temp readings are fine.
https://www.shrani.si/f/3H/7h/45GTw71U/untitled-1.png
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
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.Sup wrote:

Stormscythe wrote:

.Sup wrote:

Ur right, sry Sydney*. Try this then:
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
or Everest. Core temp was released today.
No matter what program he'll use, they'll all say what his sensors say. And those LIE!

* wtf?
I was apologizing to Sydney. I don't see why his DTS would be broken. Other Q6600s temp readings are fine.
damn 16c with 1.423vcore is not fine.
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GodFather
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I wanna see some pix of the OP's case...
Sydney
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Then why are my temps so logical and correct until I open up my window, open my case front door and put all fans to maximum?

By doing that my idle temps drop from 35°C to 17°C

...Sensors are just 'failing' at some point?

I refuse to believe my sensors are fubar.

Surely if I opened the case and placed it by the window I would be able to get those temps, right? That's pretty much what is happening since it's pulling ample air into the case and it's located directly under a open window.

Last edited by PBAsydney (2008-04-23 18:05:17)

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.Sup wrote:

haffeysucks wrote:

in winter, my ambient temps were the same as my CPU idle temps.  ~32C.

but definitely not 20.
Ye but USA is not Iceland.
well yeah although it does get cold here, inside it's always 60F or above.
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If you guys have any definitive tests on whether or not my temp sensors are fucked, let me know and I'll gladly do it.

I mean, right now my window is closed and my fans are on low and I'm idling at 40°C.

Last edited by PBAsydney (2008-04-23 18:16:27)

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Fan speedIdleLoad
12v~ 25°C~ 45°C
5v~ 33°C~ 55°C


Those are my temps when my window is closed (as I've stated before the PC is directly under the window and having it open gives it some extra cooling)
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
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I perfectly know the cooling efficiency of that cpu cooler. even thermaltake big typhoon outperforms it. looks like your CPU temp sensor gives about 5-10c too low values.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-04-24 04:25:34)

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