BF2S Forums Rules of Engagment

Cougar wrote:

Fuck BF2RS and thier rules, I'll play how I want, when I want and where I want.  I didn't pay 50 bucks for a video game just so some fat ass server admin could tell me how or how not to play.

I got a fat chode you bastards can suck on.

And EA doesn't care about you... you can play the way you like, if it's against the RoE (or any other rule) they will reset your stats, and you can continue playing your way. If the offence is great enough - they will eventually ban your hardware and you won't be able to play any more - EA wins; always...

Privatly owned servers are one thing - but privatly owbed ranked servers are another matter altogether. If I got myself a server, had it ranked - and just started pissing away on my pistol/knife badges - kicking anyone who got withing 5ft. of me. Kicking enemies who wouldn't stand still when I came to knife them... etc...

If I didn't get any problems with EA, this game would veru quickly go straight to hell.. And since it is a juggling-act to keep as many people as possible entertained - there is bound to be issues where not everyone can agree. (Hell, there can be areas where everyone agree and it still won't make EA change the rules)

Live with it, camplaint about it in a civil way, or stop playing the game... EA holds all the cards unless a major chunk of gamers decide to boycot EA...

where does it say anything about blackhawk repairing in th TOE , I cant see it

porky wrote:

where does it say anything about blackhawk repairing in th TOE , I cant see it

You can repair the blackhawk in flight provided that it took damage from enemy fire in the course of combat.

Repairing and damange for the purpose of stat padding, and other things not in the course of actual combat is prohibited.  Trying to enforce it is another thing entirely.

Indianscout, Try reading the post again. Sticks and stones Bud Sticks and stones. I said I Agree with most of the ROE, But honestly, If someone decided to make a case, I think they would have a shot with the state of the system in this day and age.

Anyways, On BF2RS theres Only ROE Version or volume 1. So, I would have thought that Changeing the way something is run(this is Just like an unjustified rent increase by a landlord) Would be A violation On the Providers part. makes you think Doesnt it? Not every Loophole is covered in EA's Disclaimers. Was Just trying to help you out bud, But so Much for trying.

Thanks for the personal slam, I would have expected better from an EA Rep.

Harry

Thanks for the reply Bro. Preciate it. I do get confused LOL. Sitting here day after day recovering from a Broken back and 6 surgeries does that to a man. Glad we have an understanding. I Never said I personally wanted any kind of lawsuit, But was Just thinking About the What if's end of something like that happening.

Peace

Harry

I Had this feeling That the ROE wasnt Official. Hence my posts before these. Thank You for the Post Bud. It Makes things Much clearer now.

Harry

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Thanks for the reply Bro. Preciate it. I do get confused LOL. Sitting here day after day recovering from a Broken back and 6 surgeries does that to a man. Glad we have an understanding. I Never said I personally wanted any kind of lawsuit, But was Just thinking About the What if's end of something like that happening.

Peace

Harry

Damn! that's harsh! Hope you make a full recovery! Cheers!

- Carl

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Thanks for the reply Bro. Preciate it. I do get confused LOL. Sitting here day after day recovering from a Broken back and 6 surgeries does that to a man. Glad we have an understanding. I Never said I personally wanted any kind of lawsuit, But was Just thinking About the What if's end of something like that happening.

Peace

Harry

get well soon

aardfrith wrote:

DSRTurtle wrote:

porky wrote:

where does it say anything about blackhawk repairing in th TOE , I cant see it

You can repair the blackhawk in flight provided that it took damage from enemy fire in the course of combat.

Man, that's b*ll*cks.  If you're an engineer then you know repair points aren't easy to come by so you repair a vehicle wherever and whenever you can.  You don't ask a tank driver to kindly move to where he can't shoot anyone, you repair the tank where it is.  Same goes for a BH - repair it in-flight.  Especially with the amount of damage it takes post 1.2.

Yep - that's kosher..

As long as you do it as part of the fighting - Not as part of stat-padding for points...

You could say that the damage you repair has to be sustained during fights with the enemy. That should make it clear what is good repairing, and what's not.

Other than that - play the game as any normal person would, and all is well...

YouWantFriesWithThat wrote:

Oh, and apparently as commander you are not allowed in a vehicle now. Does that include MG gunner on a tank controlling the squads around you during battle? WTF????? Why give us the "T" key to drop UAV, ARtry and supplies then. IT should be a command screen only key then. This is stupid though. I’ve been chopper gunner and Commander before. Works a treat cos you can see the map all the time from a great perspective and talk to all the squads as they are assaulting the position you are strafing!

It's not against ROE except on EA public sites. It's on Private sites only if the owner(s) say so in their rules. Wished I had known this sooner.

YouWantFriesWithThat wrote:

HOW MANY HOURS ARE NEEDED TO PLAY and EARN?? What else in life are you missing out on, and how much cash have they made outta you.

Agreed. 1400 hours to get General?!? I will have 2 characters to 180K before I accrue 1400 hours in vehicles. I have nearly 169 hours as commander. Had I been sitting in a blackhawk gunner position I might be a lot closer to that count. Servers made me think it was illegal so I hid my arse in anti-artillery locations. Now I find out that it was okay. blech.

B.Schuss wrote:

just to let you know, if you read the whole two pages of that forum thread, you will notice that bf2rankedservers.com staff still maintains that the RoE are valid and will be enforced even on privately owned ranked servers.

I suggest you keep a close eye on those servers to see wether they will keep their "ranked" status, should the server owners decide to keep the servers as they are now ( knife/pistol only, infantry only, etc ).

I ONLY have Ranked servers in my favorites list. Last night I was discussing those icons on the servers list with someone and over teamspeak we were helping someone to know what the suymbols mean. The symbol for a ranked server was missing from 2 of my old favorite places to play. I'ver been trying to play China more to gain China time, so I didnt pay attention to those sites recently.... They are now unranked?

I have a feeling the strict rules they thumbed at people were the death of them. Just an added note to anyone who is still thumbing at the ROE. I deleted one of them from my list. the other is still there if anyone wants the example.

Thanks Turtle for the update. I could not understand the rationale behind it.

So People, can I ask for a simple clarification of a few simple un-cap rules on EA public servers accoriding to the new ROE

If its Wake Island, can I as China strafe and bomb the carrier in my jet?
Can I arty the carrier as China?
Can I jump into a Blackhawk on the deck of the carrier and use the MG to mow down spawning people?

YouWantFriesWithThat wrote:

I "THINK" many of these rules are silly and extremely vague and unclear. Need a rewrite by the top 1,000 players, not programmers.

You ask and you shall receive...

http://forum.eagames.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=18931

I am hoping these make a bit more sense:
http://airtrafficcontrol.ca/ROE.htm

BF2RS Rules of Engagement Clarified


Level 1 RoE

Level 1 Roe are globally enforced and as such apply to ALL ranked servers. Specific exceptions may be contained in the Level 2 and 3 RoE.

1.1        You may not arrange for the exchange or transfer of any pirated software or other contraband while you are on any Ranked Servers.

Note:    This would include the copy and distribution of copyrighted software or cd-keys


1.2        You may not market, promote or advertise anything, or make any other form of solicitation on any ranked servers.

Note:    Trusted Partners and their advertisers as well as in game server messages are excluded from this ruling. Additionally Server ops may self-promote their organisation.

1.3        You may not change (hack) any core games files, load into memory or employ external programs or cheats for the purposes of giving yourself an unfair advantage over other players.

This would include but not limited to:

        * MSX and other 3rd party software.
        * Modification of weapons code, aka Tank turrets exploit.
        * CVAR hacks which would make players appear Neon
        * CVAR hacks that let players see thru walls or buildings
        * Mini-Map hack so all players are visible
        * Modification of Player Names which would alter their size or colors.
        * Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.

1.4        Server administrators may not change any game settings defined as standard for ranked servers:

        * ticket ratios must be set to 100%
        * ranked servers may not be passworded at any time

Note 1:  Friendly Fire is recommended to be on; however, it is not a requirement.

Note 2:  Sever size and map size combinations are not restricted, as such 16 player servers using 64 player maps are permitted.

1.5        Server administrators may not explicitly or implicitly (by actions) enforce restrictions on vehicles or weapons that players can use while on your server.

        * Examples of prohibited kit/weapon restrictions include:

    o        Infantry only Servers
    o        Knife-Pistol only Servers
    o        Knife only Servers
    o        Infantry only Servers
    o        No Artillery Servers
    o        No Armour Servers

        * Prohibiting or limiting access to vehicles or aircraft for non “members”

1.6        Server administrators may not explicitly or implicitly (by actions) enforce restrictions on roles or kits that players can use while on your server.

    ·         This would include but not limited to:

    o        Restricting Spec Ops from its primary role of infiltrating enemy bases.
    o        Restricting players from becoming squad leaders or commanders.
    o        Forcing players into squads.

1.7        In addition to the instances covered under 1.5 and 1.6, any server rule that requires a level of cooperation between the opposing teams to increase the rate at which points/medals/awards would normally be obtained are prohibited.

    ·         High Points Servers (Flag hopping servers, flag trading servers commonly set up for 16 players on 64 player maps)
    ·         Prohibiting players from capturing flags.

1.8        Server administrators may not use non-standard (custom map packs) maps or modified versions of standard maps.

1.9        Players may not use or exploit game mechanisms to artificially boost their score ("stats padding") and Server administrators may not knowingly allow or encourage this activity on their servers.

    ·         This would include but not limited to:

    o        Using Vehicles removed from battlefield for purposes of artificially inflating points
    o        Conducting Kill-Revive Operations
    o        Turning boats upside down and repairing
    o        Glitching inside buildings.
    o        Modifying game files for vehicles and weapons.

Note:    Items not included in this list could be subject to retroactive sanctions at EA’s discretion particularly where the exploit’s intent is obvious.

1.10      BF2RS server administrators will not go to ANY public or clan ranked server and threaten or bully any clan or clan administrator.

        * Admins are to only observe and report back to their department head
        * Admins will not contact or interfere in clan ranked servers
        * Admins will at no time contact any trusted provider
        * Admins at no time will state rules if they see violations

Note: BF2RS administrators that fail to abide by these rules (1.10) will be removed from the BF2RS program.


LEVEL 2 ROE

These are rules that apply only to EA official public servers. They are designed to maintain friendly, disciplined servers and are in addition to the Level 1 RoE defined above. These rules may also be enforced as a Level 3 RoE on other servers.

2.1        You may not use any offensive or sexually explicit language in chat or voice mode.

2.2        You may not use foul or slanderous language involving race, gender, sexual preference, religion or creed.

2.3        You may not deliberately hinder your own team or acting in such as way as to cause team mates unavoidable deaths or team losses. Examples include:

        * Flying commanders are prohibited
        * Combat Commanding while operating primarily from a vehicle is prohibited
        * Destruction of friendly vehicles
        * Excessive team killing
        * Team switching to gain medals or awards
        * You may not display abusive behaviour towards administrators. If you feel that you have been treated unfairly, you may lodge an appeal on the official forums:

BF2 Ranked Servers Forums

King Dave [email protected] Director

IndianScout [email protected] Assistant Director

2.4        Players may not impersonate or abuse BF2RS ADMINS. 

LEVEL 3 ROE

These are rules are not enforced upon in EA’s public ranked servers but may be used on privately rented ranked servers (clan, gaming communties, etc). These rules are decided by administrators for those servers. This would include but not limited to:

        * Artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases may be prohibited.
        * Prolonged or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping).
        * Using the Transport Helicopters to take flags (Blackhawk personing or flag hopping).
        * Impersonating clan members.
        * Using C4 on jeeps, or other fast moving vehicles to take out other vehicles.

Note:    Clans may modify or add other customised rules, provided they don’t violate the intent of the Level 1 RoE.

Last edited by Trinity ®© (2006-02-26 00:43:31)