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2008-04-18 14:02:18
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6286
Should the world boycott the 2012 Olympics because of Britain's role in the ILLEGAL WAR and MILITARY OCCUPATION of Iraq and Afghanistan???

I know its in 4 years time but by the looks of it, it doesn't seem like we are pulling out of both countries any time soon.


The last time that the Olympics were boycotted it was because of Russia's "unlawful occupation" of Afghanistan.I really can't see much difference between the situation then and now.Maybe one of our honest politicians can explain.



just a thought
2008-04-18 14:11:05
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7074

We're not Communists, so it's ok.
2008-04-18 14:12:07
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7196|PNW

Are you going to punish international athletes because of foul publicity as perceived by certain groups of people? Even if it is boycotted, what ultimate difference would it make?

On an unrelated note, I've been through a similar discussion on a messenger where the anti-war side started bringing out pictures of casualties. It was interesting to bring up an older log where the same person was criticizing pro-lifers for their 'tasteless gore-plastered pictures of dead babies.'

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-04-18 14:22:33)

2008-04-18 14:21:43
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7074

pierro wrote:

To say that the allied forces in Iraq and Afghanistan on the same level as the Soviet forces in Afghanistan is either a fundamental misunderstanding of what is occuring (they are doing their best to improve things) or an insult to all the soldiers serving, and who have given their lives. You should be ashamed of yourself either way.
An excellent point. You clearly have a terrible understanding of what the Russkies did there.
2008-04-18 14:28:04
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6915|Northern California
I never patronize Olympics anyway, so sure, what the hay...BOYCOTT 'EM!  And boycott whoever gets 2016 too!  And might as well throw in the winter olympics because seriously, is ice skating really an olympic sport?
2008-04-18 15:35:32
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6830|North Carolina
Another facepalm worthy thread...

Boycotting the Beijing Olympics makes the most sense, but even then, we'd still look like hypocrites because we trade so heavily with China.
2008-04-18 16:57:59
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6715|Éire
The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
2008-04-18 17:14:03
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6915|Northern California
I exercised my boycott badness last week by choosing an Emerson (made in TX) clock radio instead of the same priced chinese alternative which looked cooler (and would probably hold up better than some crap made by Bubba in TX.  But by golly, I'm proud to have done that.
2008-04-18 20:59:04
twiistaaa
Member
+87|7093|mexico
what has the olympics got to do with anything?
2008-04-18 21:02:47
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6954|Global Command
I will not be watching.

Lowest viewership in history. Watch.
2008-04-18 22:01:34
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7106|Disaster Free Zone

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
You've based that on what exactly? Also from your obviously esteemed knowledge who should the Olympics be hosted by?

I see no reason to boycott the Olympics, as I see no reason why politics and sport should be mixed.
2008-04-18 22:09:53
Commie Killer
Member
+192|6811

DrunkFace wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
You've based that on what exactly? Also from your obviously esteemed knowledge who should the Olympics be hosted by?

I see no reason to boycott the Olympics, as I see no reason why politics and sport should be mixed.
Sadly, in a case like this, its a chance for the host country to show how big of a dick he has, or at least pretends to have.
2008-04-19 05:02:56
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7046|London, England
Fuck the Olympics, it's going to do more harm to this city than any terrorist could wish for. We're going to put so much cash into building those stadiums (as if we didn't spend enough on Wembley) and no doubt it will end up costing 10X what it was thought to have cost (just like every other megaproject in this place) and like Athens and all the other places the venues will just be wasted after the Olympics and the whole thing will be a waste of money.

People give the Olympics way too much credit. The Football World Cup is a more spectacular, more entertaining, more appealing and even a more profitable event to host than the Olympics. Any day of the week. None of that bullshite politics either. And pretty much zero drug abuse.

BTW - The war in Afghanistan was legal and justified, the war in Iraq was the illegal and unjustified fucked up one. Don't bunch them togethor, realise that Afghanistan is a worthwhile mission.

Last edited by Mek-Stizzle (2008-04-19 05:04:48)

2008-04-19 05:48:33
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6386|Washington DC
I say we buy American (or British in the case of you brits... actually nah... buy American... we need it)
2008-04-19 06:18:20
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6715|Éire

DrunkFace wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
You've based that on what exactly? Also from your obviously esteemed knowledge who should the Olympics be hosted by?

I see no reason to boycott the Olympics, as I see no reason why politics and sport should be mixed.
Well they had the games in Germany during the rise of the Nazis, they had them in Russia despite what was going on in Afghanistan at the beginning of the 80's, they're having the current games in China despite allegations of serious human rights violations and arms deals with Sudan and they're having the 2012 games in Britain despite Britain playing a leading role in the possibly illegal invasion of Iraq...that's pretty much what I'm basing my opinions on.

No country is angelic when it comes to domestic and foreign policy but it's always a risky business allowing the International 'poster boys' of controversy to host these big events as it makes talk of boycotts more likely to arise. It's a very subjective issue too though...I can bet America would be screaming blue murder if Iran or Venezuela were given the games whereas other countries would have no problem with it.

I reckon rotate the games between Andorra and Liechtenstein on a continual basis!
2008-04-19 06:20:58
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7146|Sydney, Australia

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
Great to know that Sydney, and the rest of Australia, was undeserving of the the 2000 Olympics.

2008-04-19 06:43:24
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6715|Éire

mcminty wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
Great to know that Sydney, and the rest of Australia, was undeserving of the the 2000 Olympics.

By always I don't mean literally always...although one could say that Australia should not have been rewarded for their mistreatment of the Aborigines by being given the games!
2008-04-19 07:00:33
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7146|Sydney, Australia

Braddock wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
Great to know that Sydney, and the rest of Australia, was undeserving of the the 2000 Olympics.

By always I don't mean literally always...although one could say that Australia should not have been rewarded for their mistreatment of the Aborigines by being given the games!
Ah, but always is an absolute term.    Haha, good point on the Aborigines.. sort of.
2008-04-19 07:07:03
oug
Calmer than you are.
+380|6944|Πάϊ

mcminty wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
Great to know that Sydney, and the rest of Australia, was undeserving of the the 2000 Olympics.

Greece definitely didn't deserve them.  lol

but I know what you mean Braddock

and I agree tbh

Last edited by oug (2008-04-19 07:09:19)

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2008-04-19 07:11:57
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7074

oug wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
Great to know that Sydney, and the rest of Australia, was undeserving of the the 2000 Olympics.

Greece definitely didn't deserve them.  lol

but I know what you mean Braddock

and I agree tbh
I visited Greece about a year before the games and I thought there was no way in hell they were ever going to be ready for them with the amount of construction that still had to be done.
2008-04-19 08:40:34
imortal
Member
+240|7089|Austin, TX

Braddock wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
Great to know that Sydney, and the rest of Australia, was undeserving of the the 2000 Olympics.

By always I don't mean literally always...although one could say that Australia should not have been rewarded for their mistreatment of the Aborigines by being given the games!
If you are going to use things like that to judge if a nation is "worthy," there would be no olympics.  And who would the judges be?  Where would they be from that gives them the moral authority to judge entire nations of who is morally clean enough to host the Olympics?

Not the US.  We had slavery at one time.
Not Japan.  Genocide of at least hundreds of thousands of Chinese.
Not Australia, for the reason listed above.
Not China, for Tibet and general human rights violations.
Not the UK, because they forcefully anexed a sizable chunk of the world at one point.
Not Spain, because they ended up depopulating most of South America in their quest for gold.
Not the Dutch, for their actions in the slave trade.
Not South Africa, since they had Apartheid.
Not Isreal, for obvious reasons.
Not Germany; they killed millions.
Not Russia, also for killing millions.
...the list can go on, but I am tired.

I tell you what.  Just bounce the Olympics between Canada and Guam; I think that would about do it.

The Olympics are supposed to be a way to bring nations together in the guise of friendly competitve spirit.  Nowadays, it is just a political tool to try to show off to everyone else.  And boycotting is nothing but a political tool as well.
2008-04-19 08:44:40
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6835|'Murka

rammunition wrote:

Should the world boycott the 2012 Olympics because of Britain's role in the ILLEGAL WAR and MILITARY OCCUPATION of Iraq and Afghanistan???

I know its in 4 years time but by the looks of it, it doesn't seem like we are pulling out of both countries any time soon.


The last time that the Olympics were boycotted it was because of Russia's "unlawful occupation" of Afghanistan.I really can't see much difference between the situation then and now.Maybe one of our honest politicians can explain.



just a thought
I can understand (not agree with, but certainly understand) that mentality WRT Iraq. But Afghanistan? Really? Then you'd have to say the Netherlands, Germany, Spain, France, and many many other countries could never host the Olympics because they participated in OEF.

I've never seen a decent argument against taking action in Afghanistan...care to forward one?

As to the OP: No.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2008-04-19 08:47:24
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7046|London, England
Alot of people like to bunch Afghanistan and Iraq together. I'm completely for Afghanistan, but completely against Iraq. Fuck, if we didn't head off to Iraq and instead focused entirely on Afghanistan, the Taliban would be in a much worse position than now and Iran wouldn't be so much of an enemy and a "problem"

Last edited by Mek-Stizzle (2008-04-19 08:47:38)

2008-04-19 08:50:34
SEREVENT
MASSIVE G STAR
+605|6532|Birmingham, UK

Braddock wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Braddock wrote:

The Olympic Committee always give the games to undeserving or questionable countries. I wouldn't even be surprised if Israel get it some day soon.
Great to know that Sydney, and the rest of Australia, was undeserving of the the 2000 Olympics.

By always I don't mean literally always...although one could say that Australia should not have been rewarded for their mistreatment of the Aborigines by being given the games!
And Britain is undeserving of the olympics?
2008-04-19 10:40:47
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6830|North Carolina

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

Fuck the Olympics, it's going to do more harm to this city than any terrorist could wish for. We're going to put so much cash into building those stadiums (as if we didn't spend enough on Wembley) and no doubt it will end up costing 10X what it was thought to have cost (just like every other megaproject in this place) and like Athens and all the other places the venues will just be wasted after the Olympics and the whole thing will be a waste of money.

People give the Olympics way too much credit. The Football World Cup is a more spectacular, more entertaining, more appealing and even a more profitable event to host than the Olympics. Any day of the week. None of that bullshite politics either. And pretty much zero drug abuse.

BTW - The war in Afghanistan was legal and justified, the war in Iraq was the illegal and unjustified fucked up one. Don't bunch them togethor, realise that Afghanistan is a worthwhile mission.
100% agreed

 

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