BF2S Forums Why don't some Americans seem to like Jimmy Carter?

Reagan's campaign in '79-80.  This was the first time the religious right, the corporatists, the war party, and the libertarians joined forces so incredibly well to further each others interests.

As a by-product of this campaign, a certain "branding" occured wherein the Democratic candidates were basically demonized as being "weak effiminate elitist whiny girly-men" and the Republicans were branded as "salt-of-the-Earth marlboro cowboy everyman men".  Carter was possibly the first victim of this kind of branding, and it has been re-inforced with every telling of the tale.

Ganko_06 wrote:

Mostly the Iranian hostage crisis I believe.  That little debacle was trumped up to highlight his entire career.  Other than that, I can't find anything wrong with him.  Hell, he gave the soldiers a 17% pay raise if I'm not mistaken.

Clinton did the same thing with soldier pay raises and benefits trying to at least get Sergeants with families off food stamps...ironically one of the first things canned by Bush supporting the troops.

15% interest rates.
Gas lines.
Buffoonish response to Iran.
Mortgage crisis.

Interesting why everyone posting from outside the US like him, while the americans don't.  You guys like him, YOU elect him as your leader.  WE tried it and regretted it. 

Remember the Misery Index? http://www.miseryindex.us/indexbypresident.asp

imortal wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

ATG wrote:

15% interest rates.
Gas lines.
Buffoonish response to Iran.
Mortgage crisis.

And gas lines were his fault why now?

You miss the point.  He was talking about the gas lines during his predidency.  There is nothing like that going on now.

like actual lines to wait for access to gas pumps, cam.

Doesn't he go around the world claiming that all these "evil" dictators, like democratically elected Hugo Chavez, aren't as evil as Bush and his buddies make out by actually observing the election processes in these countries?...Might have something to do with it. He also employs daring negotiating tactics like 'actually talking' with people like Fidel Castro and Kim Jong-Il.

Parker wrote:

imortal wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

And gas lines were his fault why now?

You miss the point.  He was talking about the gas lines during his predidency.  There is nothing like that going on now.

like actual lines to wait for access to gas pumps, cam.

Did that not have more to do with OPEC than Jimmy Carter? He isn't a magician ye know. The gas you buy today costs you vastly more than a couple of years ago both in dollar terms and in terms of American soldiers lives.

CameronPoe wrote:

Parker wrote:

imortal wrote:

You miss the point.  He was talking about the gas lines during his predidency.  There is nothing like that going on now.

like actual lines to wait for access to gas pumps, cam.

Did that not have more to do with OPEC than Jimmy Carter? He isn't a magician ye know. The gas you buy today costs you vastly more than a couple of years ago both in dollar terms and in terms of American soldiers lives.

But we associate that with him, and that is enough.  You asked us to explain it, not to justify it.

...actually, not in dollar terms.  When accounting for inflation, gas during the Gas Shortage reached about $5 a gallon.  In terms of american lives; keep it clean, Cameron.  There are other posts for you to vent your spleen about our "American Imperialism" on.

Last edited by imortal (2008-04-18 06:56:58)

Braddock wrote:

Doesn't he go around the world claiming that all these "evil" dictators, like democratically elected Hugo Chavez, aren't as evil as Bush and his buddies make out by actually observing the election processes in these countries?...Might have something to do with it. He also employs daring negotiating tactics like 'actually talking' with people like Fidel Castro and Kim Jong-Il.

...and that is also why we regard him as a joke.

imortal wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Doesn't he go around the world claiming that all these "evil" dictators, like democratically elected Hugo Chavez, aren't as evil as Bush and his buddies make out by actually observing the election processes in these countries?...Might have something to do with it. He also employs daring negotiating tactics like 'actually talking' with people like Fidel Castro and Kim Jong-Il.

...and that is also why we regard him as a joke.

Carter brokered the Camp David peace accord between Egypt and Israel - two sworn enemies - he certainly is not a joke.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

He won the Nobel Peace Prize, which is certainly something I hope all Presidents (or future anyway) aspire for.

And those who don't like him, how can you stay mad at such a face as this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … Carter.jpg

Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize also. the value of that award decreased to the worthiness of a paperweight.

<BoTM>J_Aero wrote:

ATG wrote:

15% interest rates.
Gas lines.
Buffoonish response to Iran.
Mortgage crisis.

You are hilarious, look what happened to the rest of the world at the time, there was this thing called the oil shock, right. Oh but it was all Jimmy Carter's fault, that explains it.

I wasn't talking about the world wide oil shock. I was talking about what happened in Merica. You're not hilarious, rather ignorant tbh.

The governments responce under Carter was to impose price controls.

Whenever the government jumps in to solve a problem it gets worse.


Which is why they shouldn't be talking about health care.