BF2S Forums Flag project hits nerve

Your priorities are interesting, Braddock...and quite telling, tbh.

Is the county prioritization normal for the Irish?

Braddock wrote:

[...] would be front and centre to defend my nation if anyone ever attempted an invasion [...]

So would the Americans, the British, and more allies than could possibly fit inside your borders.

Braddock wrote:

Get over it...

http://www.futureofthebook.org/sivavaid … /flag1.jpg
http://plutoniumblond.files.wordpress.c … 9/rkd2.jpg
http://www.webundies.com/images/fbb016.jpg
http://eats.beloblog.com/archives/Ameri … ookies.JPG
http://www.paratoys.com/vipergb/upload/p1164555489.jpg
https://www.tamarackwv.com/shared/conte … 4488-c.jpg
http://www.smalldogclothing.com/images/E001.jpg
http://www.mymodelships.com/product_ima … 265_10.jpg

Not that I agree with those uses of variations of the flag of the United States, but there is a really big difference.

Braddock wrote:

Man, you guys take your flag so fucking seriously. Jeez, relax. Fair enough on the issue of burning, this is an explicit attack on the flag and what it represents (the country) but walking on it? Displaying it incorrectly? ...are you allowed to look at it sideways?

Agreed...  thankfully, there are plenty of Americans that aren't so crazy about the flag (like myself).  Those of us able to think for ourselves and rationally assess situations realize that a flag is just a flag....

Turquoise wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Man, you guys take your flag so fucking seriously. Jeez, relax. Fair enough on the issue of burning, this is an explicit attack on the flag and what it represents (the country) but walking on it? Displaying it incorrectly? ...are you allowed to look at it sideways?

Agreed...  thankfully, there are plenty of Americans that aren't so crazy about the flag (like myself).  Those of us able to think for ourselves and rationally assess situations realize that a flag is just a flag....

I, however, AM quite fanatical about the flag of my nation.  And while I support the detestable act of flag-burning, and free speech, I do not feel this was appropriate, for the primary reason that you are not supposed to let the flag hit the ground.

And a flag is not just a flag. A flag CAN be just a flag, but so much is put into a flag that it becomes a very symbol of the people that use it.  I have fought and bled with that flag on my arm.  I have stood stock still in formations and during parades holding those colors high.  I do not see people saluting the disney world flag whenever they visit.

I will freely admit that I am not objective, nor completely rational when it comes to this subject.  However, there are many like me; at least I can admit my foibles.  You do not have to understand it to aknowledge it.

EDIT:  That being said, and vented;  While I dislike this display in the extreme, I admit that it is a decent piece of art just for the discussion and thought provoking nature of the display.  But I will still be a very happy person when it is dismantled.  I did not say that it SHOULD be dismantled, just that I will not mourn its passing.

Last edited by imortal (2008-04-16 20:18:57)

I would walk around it, but it has nothing (and I mean NOTHING) to do with it being a 'flag'. If there was a blank white sheet I would walk around it, or a fucking Mars bar wrapper I would step over it (not on it).

Mek-Stizzle wrote:

You guys take the flag business way too seriously.

imortal wrote:

Men have literally died to keep the colors from touching the ground in battle.

DrunkFace wrote:

I never understood Americas almost fanatical patriotism to a fucking flag, and quiet frankly it makes me sick.

Dying for a fucking flag is ludicrous. Dying for what it represents may not be. There is a big fucking difference, but I fear too many Americans have blurred the 2.

san4 wrote:

Let me get this straight. She put American fags on the ground to see if people would walk on them?

Yea, but she had a hard time doing it.  That makes it OK, right?

well, looking at the reaction here and on the scene of the project, I think it can be considered a success already.

Braddock wrote:

Come on, you have to love Rex-Kwon-Do's American flag, martial arts pants!? No?

I think it's a difference in intent.  People burn the flag to dishonor it.  The person put flags on the ground to see how people would treat it.  People make a bench or pants, etc... not to dishonor it.  Who would buy an American flag bench if they weren't patriotic?  I wouldn't buy one regardless because I don't like the way it looks, but I think you see my point.

My stand on this:  I think it sucks that she put the flags on the ground.  But I'm not going to get mad about it.  Freedom of speech entitles her to do this, but that doesn't mean I have to like or approve of it.

SenorToenails wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Come on, you have to love Rex-Kwon-Do's American flag, martial arts pants!? No?

I think it's a difference in intent.  People burn the flag to dishonor it.  The person put flags on the ground to see how people would treat it.  People make a bench or pants, etc... not to dishonor it.  Who would buy an American flag bench if they weren't patriotic?  I wouldn't buy one regardless because I don't like the way it looks, but I think you see my point.

My stand on this:  I think it sucks that she put the flags on the ground.  But I'm not going to get mad about it.  Freedom of speech entitles her to do this, but that doesn't mean I have to like or approve of it.

Surely an obvious result of buying underwear with you flag on is that it will be used to scratch sweaty scrotum? Chances are that at some point you're going to get a little sweat, piss, shit and cum on them.