BF2S Forums Legalize Marijuanna, save the United States and the World

mikkel wrote:

...something to the effect of: pot is bad because it is "sociologically linked" to harmful drugs...

i'll level with you. the only reason why you perceive this "sociological link" is because you were probably educated in public schools with DARE programs and came home to after school specials a couple times a week. ur parents were drugged with the same misinfo as they arrived home from work and sat down for their daily public service programming. you were probably socialized in a community that echos this same education and any number of other social-political epithets from TV land.

now you think it sounds crazy for anyone to deny the link between marijuana and other drugs, because you have lived your whole life categorizing them as fundamentally the same, because, as you were taught, they both "get you high." you even used the analogy, 'marijuana is to heroin like wine is to hard liquor.' like scorpion already explained, the association between weed and heroin is less significant than that between coffee and cocaine (both sociologically and pharmacologically). yet you are absolutely right that pot and hard drugs are sociologically linked. what you fail to realize is that any two topics can become "sociologically linked" when the most powerful propaganda force on earth insists upon presenting them together in the form of "educational broadcasts" almost daily and over the course of decades.

all this brings us to this thread and why people like ATG and scorpion are on here making posts. there are a bunch of state/corporate educated people that have been taught to arbitrarily associate pot with a bunch of dangerous and largely useless substances. because of the myriad benefits that the plant offers, and the substantial joy it brings to a large subset of society, many people have begun personally engaging the public in challenging the misinformation that was handed to them by the media. you can cling to your argument that pot and harder drugs and general depravity are inextricably "sociologically linked," but you need to realize that this link is merely a product of the force of centralized education and general media and the willingness of people such as yourself to repeat and propagate these associations as if they are your own thoughts.

Parker wrote:

its not hard to stay out of jail, you just need the money to pay it off.

last year i was picked up for having a dugout (smoking device and holder) with a small amount of weed in it (less than a gram).
now, i could have just told them where it was in the car, but it had been awhile since i was picked up, and i wanted to press my luck. the officer knew the game. he could smell it, he told me he could smell it and i just played dumb. didnt bug me, i had been in a lot worse situations, and wasnt really stressing if he would find it or not....more of a pain in the ass type thing.
so, anyway, he finds it and we have some laughs...like i said, he knew the game, and he knew i wasnt a threat. since i wanted to hide it, they took me in to process me. it took all of 45 minutes....30 in a holding cell and 15 to do paperwork shit.
got let go, went outside and smoked a cigarette with the arresting officer. not once did he talk to me like i had done a damn thing wrong, and in fact took one of my business cards. when i was done, i walked next door and got my car out of impound for $40 (money for the towing company).
went to court a month later, stood in front of the judge for literally 15 seconds. the prosecutor recommended $300 total fines, and the judge was just like "nah, $400."
i lol'd as i was writing the check.

it truly is an industry.

lol, one of several good posts.

Kmarion wrote:

ATG wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

That's actually under performance for the market on the whole. You can clearly see thewas after the attacks.
This is the DOW http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJI&t=my . So like I said nothing special.

I'll be and sure to tell those upside down on their mortgage, behind on credit cards, delinquent in property taxes, laid off and in foreclosure that the DOW is just fine.http://i16.tinypic.com/2pra7ew.gif

Very few people are upside down (at least those who have been in there home for over five years). It also takes two people to sign a contract. Hate the banks if it makes you feel better, but they weren't doing anything illegal. Personal responsibility has been stripped out of this country. You'll get no sympathy from me for the people who are behind on their credit cards. Usually it's not necessity but luxury that prompts people to live on credit. Yea it may get tougher... but for the most part the wound is self inflicted.

thats hilarious, so as long as its legal, you just blame the victim. i think youre going to need to be a little bit more critical than that. anyway, we're off-topic.

Last edited by Marinejuana (2008-04-15 13:35:52)

Parker wrote:

lowing wrote:

Parker wrote:

well, you tell me im a "drug addict", yet i function just fine, and contribute more to society than most people. the drug addicts i have ever had any interaction with cant even manage their lives enough to have a roof over their heads. but this will lead us to that gray area regarding addictions, and based off what you have already said, im sure you have your narrow mind already made up about that.

i really dont make that much money, but thank you....in fact, come to think of it, i make MUCH less than all those people you listed.
i think your views on success may be slightly skewed. as far as im concerned, none of the people you listed are successful.

its sad that you measure success only in financial gains, but it explains a lot about you as a person.


also, your "respect" is about as valuable to me as these little karma points.

I get it, you are one of those people who have been doing drugs every day for the past yeat and can quit whenever ya want huh?

You have no idea how I gauge success, but one way that is definately not on the list, is how much drugs you do and can still drive to work on time.

I never thought for a second that you were looking for respect from me, then again, it isn't me whose life you affect. I am sure your parents or your kids must be so proud of their drug abusing son and daughter and mother and father. So knock yourself out.

nope, i would probably have a really hard time quiting. just like people that smoke cigarettes, i have a routine.
so, no you dont "get it". you like to make assumptions, but you dont "get it".

i dont drive to work (assumption again), so i can smoke AS MUCH pot as i want, and walk my happy ass out to my backyard.....see, thats one of the many perks of doing drugs AND owning your own business (or two).


the only way you could gauge success to me, or success in my case would be more appropriate, is by financial standards. like i said, its sad that you use that as a measurement, but to each his own.

as far as my family is concerned (which is yet again ANOTHER assumption on your part):
my mother couldnt be happier for me.
i already run one business, getting ready to start another. im a craftsman....i make things with my hands you couldnt hope to do in your lifetime. my work is compared with people that have been making things for 25 years....and im 26. im with the woman i love and everything in my life is great. i could use more time, but then im sure thats the case with everyone......or maybe its just a "drug addict" thing?
maybe you could fill me in....if you "get it"......


and with that, im done with this sad little debate.
you WANT to see people that smoke pot fail. thats fine, maybe you were victimized at some point by a violent pothead (now im making assumptions lol).
good luck making that money

Just like people that smoke cigarettes?? Ya, that is called addicted. look it up. It appears denial also goes along with addiction.

Awsome, you can be a drug adict and walk in a backyard...... I change my mind, Drugs for everyone.

I take it you are a cabinet maker or somthing along those lines? Sounds great, but what exactly does that have to do with being addicted to drugs. I know pilots that are alcoholics and they can land a plane!! Not sure exactly what yourpoint is with fact that you can make stuff. Hell, there are drug addicts that build entire meth labs out of their own 2 hands. So ya, I am not impressed, all you are is a drug addict with some skill. That, along with 50 cents will by you a soda of your choice.

So, Mom, knows you abuse drugs? Do your kids? If not, if it isn't a problem why hide it from them? When do ya think your kids will be old enough to get high with ya?? I bet ya can't wait. Nothing like bonding with your son over their first beer and joint is there?

lowing wrote:

Parker wrote:

lowing wrote:

I get it, you are one of those people who have been doing drugs every day for the past yeat and can quit whenever ya want huh?

You have no idea how I gauge success, but one way that is definately not on the list, is how much drugs you do and can still drive to work on time.

I never thought for a second that you were looking for respect from me, then again, it isn't me whose life you affect. I am sure your parents or your kids must be so proud of their drug abusing son and daughter and mother and father. So knock yourself out.

nope, i would probably have a really hard time quiting. just like people that smoke cigarettes, i have a routine.
so, no you dont "get it". you like to make assumptions, but you dont "get it".

i dont drive to work (assumption again), so i can smoke AS MUCH pot as i want, and walk my happy ass out to my backyard.....see, thats one of the many perks of doing drugs AND owning your own business (or two).


the only way you could gauge success to me, or success in my case would be more appropriate, is by financial standards. like i said, its sad that you use that as a measurement, but to each his own.

as far as my family is concerned (which is yet again ANOTHER assumption on your part):
my mother couldnt be happier for me.
i already run one business, getting ready to start another. im a craftsman....i make things with my hands you couldnt hope to do in your lifetime. my work is compared with people that have been making things for 25 years....and im 26. im with the woman i love and everything in my life is great. i could use more time, but then im sure thats the case with everyone......or maybe its just a "drug addict" thing?
maybe you could fill me in....if you "get it"......


and with that, im done with this sad little debate.
you WANT to see people that smoke pot fail. thats fine, maybe you were victimized at some point by a violent pothead (now im making assumptions lol).
good luck making that money

Just like people that smoke cigarettes?? Ya, that is called addicted. look it up. It appears denial also goes along with addiction.

Awsome, you can be a drug adict and walk in a backyard...... I change my mind, Drugs for everyone.

I take it you are a cabinet maker or somthing along those lines? Sounds great, but what exactly does that have to do with being addicted to drugs. I know pilots that are alcoholics and they can land a plane!! Not sure exactly what yourpoint is with fact that you can make stuff. Hell, there are drug addicts that build entire meth labs out of their own 2 hands. So ya, I am not impressed, all you are is a drug addict with some skill. That, along with 50 cents will by you a soda of your choice.

So, Mom, knows you abuse drugs? Do your kids? If not, if it isn't a problem why hide it from them? When do ya think your kids will be old enough to get high with ya?? I bet ya can't wait. Nothing like bonding with your son over their first beer and joint is there?

He does this.

ATG wrote:

lowing wrote:

Parker wrote:

nope, i would probably have a really hard time quiting. just like people that smoke cigarettes, i have a routine.
so, no you dont "get it". you like to make assumptions, but you dont "get it".

i dont drive to work (assumption again), so i can smoke AS MUCH pot as i want, and walk my happy ass out to my backyard.....see, thats one of the many perks of doing drugs AND owning your own business (or two).


the only way you could gauge success to me, or success in my case would be more appropriate, is by financial standards. like i said, its sad that you use that as a measurement, but to each his own.

as far as my family is concerned (which is yet again ANOTHER assumption on your part):
my mother couldnt be happier for me.
i already run one business, getting ready to start another. im a craftsman....i make things with my hands you couldnt hope to do in your lifetime. my work is compared with people that have been making things for 25 years....and im 26. im with the woman i love and everything in my life is great. i could use more time, but then im sure thats the case with everyone......or maybe its just a "drug addict" thing?
maybe you could fill me in....if you "get it"......


and with that, im done with this sad little debate.
you WANT to see people that smoke pot fail. thats fine, maybe you were victimized at some point by a violent pothead (now im making assumptions lol).
good luck making that money

Just like people that smoke cigarettes?? Ya, that is called addicted. look it up. It appears denial also goes along with addiction.

Awsome, you can be a drug adict and walk in a backyard...... I change my mind, Drugs for everyone.

I take it you are a cabinet maker or somthing along those lines? Sounds great, but what exactly does that have to do with being addicted to drugs. I know pilots that are alcoholics and they can land a plane!! Not sure exactly what yourpoint is with fact that you can make stuff. Hell, there are drug addicts that build entire meth labs out of their own 2 hands. So ya, I am not impressed, all you are is a drug addict with some skill. That, along with 50 cents will by you a soda of your choice.

So, Mom, knows you abuse drugs? Do your kids? If not, if it isn't a problem why hide it from them? When do ya think your kids will be old enough to get high with ya?? I bet ya can't wait. Nothing like bonding with your son over their first beer and joint is there?

He does this.

if you ever need any cabinets made, be sure to hit me up.
ill give you my "go fuck yourself" discount