Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6888|London, England
Bring it!

YEAH

BRING IT

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YEAH

/Milky Way Hooligan
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6868|132 and Bush

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Bring it!

YEAH

BRING IT

/Crushes Beer Can on Forehead

YEAH

/Milky Way Hooligan
Don't forget to tear your shirt off.. roooar
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chittydog
less busy
+586|7102|Kubra, Damn it!

Bf2-GeneralArnott wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Are you confusing the Universe and the Solar system?

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html#SS
Possibly.
I think you just invalidated all your prior statements with that one.

M.O.A.B wrote:

That's where we're positioned? I thought it was further out one of the arms.
You might be thinking of our galaxy's position within the universe. I believe we're pretty far out on one of the arms, but I can't seem to find a pic for proof.

Edit: nevermind

Last edited by chittydog (2008-03-21 12:34:47)

SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6397|North Tonawanda, NY
NASA captured a massive solar pressure wave (tsunami) in a series a pictures today.  The BBC has a neat movie and explanation here.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6973

ATG wrote:

My understanding of the universe{s} is that there are ten or eleven dimensions. These appear to facilitate big bangs as the different ' bubbles ' sometimes collide. It may be a repeating cycle and indeed our reality seems to be smaller than a speck of dew on a blade of grass in a field of wild flowers.


Moderne physics has not gone beyond the string theory and it is silly, tbh to try as we have more  pressing issues our science people should be dealing with like solar power, reclaiming water, new propulsion for space travel.
Trying to understand the mechanicals of the universes is putting the cart before the horse as we need to survive as a species.
I agree, but it is human nature to try to understand the nature of the universe, the laws of physics.  To some people, it is looked at as a kind of religion.  People think that if they can discover the interworkings of the universe that they can find the answer to life, everything, happiness etc.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6942|Canberra, AUS

Kmarion wrote:

Bf2-GeneralArnott wrote:

The universe has 11 dimensions, some of which are so small they are curled up and forgotten about.

When the Big Bange happened, the 4 forces, gravity, the 2 nuclear forces and the other one of which i have *uhumm* forgotten the name of "broke apart from 1 super force" i think, gravity being far weaker than the other 3 in equal strength.

The matter flew apart, and is still expanding infinately, known as red shift.

Matter (e.g. rocks and ice and dust) fused together to make rocky planets, and gas clouded together to make gas giants.

Stars give off nuclear energy, and when they die they expand, and, if they were big enough they collapse in on themselves after a super nova, causing a black hole, one of which is at the centre of our galaxy, and, because the Earth's ever expanding orbit is, well expanding, we may kindof run into it.

Moving on, black holes suck up EVERYTHING, including light, in the middle there is a tiny plug hole, where the doomed matter goes somewhere or something.

To find the ultimate theory of how we were created, which is what Stephen Hawking is working on, you have to combine 2 theories, Einstine's theory of the very large, and the theory of the very small (atoms) (quantum mechanics or something) anyway, you have to make these fit together, which is where Hawking is stuck, he found out that they combine at the edge of black holes, where the positive atoms escape the hole, but the negative atoms go down.
Hawking is soooo 1980 (J/k of course). Ed Witten is an absolute genius as well.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/me … _q_03.html
That guy is a god.

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@ATG. Fair point, but that's what was said about quantum mechanics too.

And now, basically everything electronic that's been invented in the last 50 years (and a shitload of non-electronic stuff) relies on quantum mechanics to even exist.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
PureFodder
Member
+225|6552

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

ATG wrote:

My understanding of the universe{s} is that there are ten or eleven dimensions. These appear to facilitate big bangs as the different ' bubbles ' sometimes collide. It may be a repeating cycle and indeed our reality seems to be smaller than a speck of dew on a blade of grass in a field of wild flowers.


Moderne physics has not gone beyond the string theory and it is silly, tbh to try as we have more  pressing issues our science people should be dealing with like solar power, reclaiming water, new propulsion for space travel.
Trying to understand the mechanicals of the universes is putting the cart before the horse as we need to survive as a species.
I agree, but it is human nature to try to understand the nature of the universe, the laws of physics.  To some people, it is looked at as a kind of religion.  People think that if they can discover the interworkings of the universe that they can find the answer to life, everything, happiness etc.
Science for the sake of science has resulted in some of the most important discoveries for mankind. A lot of scientific research has no specific goal or benefit to us in mind other than increasing understanding. Often they later turn out to be important (lasers, NMR etc.) or they turn out to be an essential piece of knowledge upon which some future amazingly useful device will be based.

Basically, deciding upon which avenues of scientific research to persue isn't an exact science.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6868|132 and Bush

Spark wrote:

That guy is a god.
Kudos for him admitting he was wrong about black holes for so long. Almost four years ago now. http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2004/07/ … 40721.html

From what I understand he has his team of top student who do most the work now. They meet with him when they get stuck. His communication has gotten so bad now that he has a person who tries to guess and anticipate what he is saying (the machine isn't cutting it anymore). I watched Hawking:Master of the Universe a few weeks ago. It was interesting but it focused mostly on his condition and challenges. There was also a special about Hawking on the science channel I watched the other night.
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SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6397|North Tonawanda, NY

Kmarion wrote:

From what I understand he has his team of top student who do most the work now. They meet with him when they get stuck. His communication has gotten so bad now that he has a person who tries to guess and anticipate what he is saying.
Judging from how things go where I work, that seems to be the norm.  We grad students run around doing all this and that, and meet with the head professor every now and again for direction and insight on how to get past whatever road block seems to be in the way.  Hawking's students might take extra steps to only ask for help when really necessary because of his condition, but I don't think that method of research is all that uncommon.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6868|132 and Bush

SenorToenails wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

From what I understand he has his team of top student who do most the work now. They meet with him when they get stuck. His communication has gotten so bad now that he has a person who tries to guess and anticipate what he is saying.
Judging from how things go where I work, that seems to be the norm.  We grad students run around doing all this and that, and meet with the head professor every now and again for direction and insight on how to get past whatever road block seems to be in the way.  Hawking's students might take extra steps to only ask for help when really necessary because of his condition, but I don't think that method of research is all that uncommon.
It is for Hawking. He was someone who insisted on being in the thick of things (he lost his wife because of his devotion). The documentary specifically stated that his reduced activity was a result of his condition. Which is understandable (of course).
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PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6794|Portland, OR USA
I love threads like this ...

Any subscribers to the heat death theory?
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6785|USA
i posted two of these vids somewhere in a debate about light speed space travel, but i can't find them... 
very interesting to say the least.









Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6868|132 and Bush

The just found the smallest black hole in the Milky way.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080403/ts … eastronomy
The discovery in our own galaxy of the smallest black hole known in the universe is a feather in the cap for NASA, but it will present new challenges to future space travelers who may venture too close.

Tiny but intense, with a mass 3.8 times that of the sun and a diameter of only 15 miles (24 kilometers), this black hole in the Milky Way galaxy "is really pushing the limits" of our understanding of the phenomenon, according a NASA scientist from Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.

"For many years astronomers have wanted to know the smallest possible size of a black hole, and this little guy is a big step forward toward answering that question," said Nikolai Shaposhnikov in a statement by NASA.
I syndicate the latest astronomy news on my home page.
https://i31.tinypic.com/t62ro3.jpg
I saw the practice runs for the Jules Verne on Nasa TV Monday. It is extremely cool and will go a long way to further the development of the ISS.
About the size of a London double-decker bus, Jules Verne is the first of the ESA's class of Automated Transfer Vehicle (ATV) spacecraft to fly to the ISS. The agency spent some 1.3 billion Euros ($1.9 billion) over more than a decade to develop and build Jules Verne, and plans to launch as many as seven ATV freighters to resupply the station as payment for astronaut slots on future ISS crews.

"It was a first for Europe and we achieved it on the first try," said ESA Director General Jean-Jacques Dordain during a post-docking webcast. "I think it's an incredible technical feat."

Like all of ESA's planned ATVs, Jules Verne is a disposable cylindrical spacecraft just over 32 feet (10 meters) long, about 15 feet (4.5 meters) wide and is powered by four wing-like solar arrays that give it the appearance of a squat dragonfly coasting through space. It is designed to haul up to three times the cargo of Russia's unmanned Progress freighters, which deliver 2.5 tons of equipment and supplies to station during regular shipments.

Tucked inside the spacecraft's cargo hold are about 8 tons of supplies, including fresh food, water, rocket propellant and new equipment for the station's Expedition 16 crew. Handwritten manuscripts by 19th century science fiction writer Jules Verne, after whom ESA's first ATV is named, are also aboard the spacecraft.
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