BF2S Forums Was talking to a Vet yesterday...

Masques wrote:

siciliano732 wrote:

Mek-Izzle wrote:

So what if his church doesn't require him to denounce Islam or be baptised

you dont think its weird that he never had to denounce Islam, a faith that hates Christianity, and if you do so as denounce Islam, you are to be killed.  If he is not a Islamic follower, why would he not denounce it?  Plus once born into the Islamic faith, which he was, you cannot just back out of that.

DEVILS ADVOCATE PEOPLE....I AM JUST PROPOSING IDEAS TO THINK ABOUT! DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONAL AND GET WORKED UP OVER IT.

Why would he have to denounce a faith that he is not a member of? And if you've gone to Church for the last 20 odd years then I'd say you're a fucking Christian.

And the only insurgency I see popping up domestically if Obama becomes Prez is the inbred, fuck-nut, ignorant, backwoods, kill-the-ni**er, racist type...ya dig?

yea i dig.  The fact that is against muslim law to stop being a Muslim, has not been touched upon yet by anyone.  Just argued that they are not of a faith yet certain documents have a "faith" on it.

Last edited by siciliano732 (2008-03-14 09:28:44)

Here is what i have been talking about and the idea i have been presenting to you guys, the idea that if you denounce Islam you are to be killed and because he was born into Islam (one parent was of the faith), he the is as well:

"Yes a Muslim can become a Christian the Qur'an states a Muslim is allowed to lie to a infidel if it is needed to achieve a goal for Allah. They problem is Obama is a "fitri murtad" in the eyes of Islam if he has converted to the Christian faith. The reason why Muslims is not following this passage in the Qur'an and not being outraged by Obama's professed apostasy, is bringing questions to his true religious beliefs since his "Christian Church" has honored the Muslim Louis Farrakhan with its highest honor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfNEfEBYI...

http://www.al-islam.org/organizations/Aa...

A fitri murtad is one who was born of Muslim parents (or at least one parent) and then rejects Islam. If he rejects Islam, then, according to the fatawa of our maraji (including Ayatullahs al-Khu'i and Khumayni) he is to be killed."

AGAIN...JUST IDEAS TO THINK ABOUT.

Last edited by siciliano732 (2008-03-14 09:31:20)

CameronPoe wrote:

lol. You're as bad as the 9/11 conspiracists.

I am not saying these are things i believe. I am saying i am playing devils advocate to open discussion and get people thinking.  I do not care who you vote for or what have you, it doenst matter to me.  I am just playing the "What If?" card to see what peoples opinions and thoughts are on the topic.

Spearhead wrote:

A lot of people are, especially Vets.

says who?

if someone tells you that they are an ex spook, you could pretty much rule it out.

siciliano732 wrote:

Here is what i have been talking about and the idea i have been presenting to you guys, the idea that if you denounce Islam you are to be killed and because he was born into Islam (one parent was of the faith), he the is as well:

"Yes a Muslim can become a Christian the Qur'an states a Muslim is allowed to lie to a infidel if it is needed to achieve a goal for Allah. They problem is Obama is a "fitri murtad" in the eyes of Islam if he has converted to the Christian faith. The reason why Muslims is not following this passage in the Qur'an and not being outraged by Obama's professed apostasy, is bringing questions to his true religious beliefs since his "Christian Church" has honored the Muslim Louis Farrakhan with its highest honor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfNEfEBYI...

http://www.al-islam.org/organizations/Aa...

A fitri murtad is one who was born of Muslim parents (or at least one parent) and then rejects Islam. If he rejects Islam, then, according to the fatawa of our maraji (including Ayatullahs al-Khu'i and Khumayni) he is to be killed."

AGAIN...JUST IDEAS TO THINK ABOUT.

Newsflash. He draws more ire from the Islamic fundies for being American than some fictional background story.

siciliano732 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

lol. You're as bad as the 9/11 conspiracists.

I am not saying these are things i believe. I am saying i am playing devils advocate to open discussion and get people thinking.  I do not care who you vote for or what have you, it doenst matter to me.  I am just playing the "What If?" card to see what peoples opinions and thoughts are on the topic.

I'm dubious you are actually playing devils advocate. I think you may just be as crazy as your 'ex-CIA' man.

You should know that your playing of devil's advocate really makes you sound like a Nazi supporter before the holocaust.

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Yes that was the third time I said that in the past month.