FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6836|'Murka

Well, we were wondering where Petraeus was going next...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23578902
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GunSlinger OIF II
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sounds like he was retired. 


Petraeus is the man.  Do you think he will be less effective at that position?
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6836|'Murka

Less effective than Fallon, or less effective than he has been at MNF-I?

I think Petraeus's grasp of the Islamic culture (vice Arab culture) would work wonders as CDRCENT.
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Commie Killer
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+192|6812

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

sounds like he was retired.
Does from that article, they might just be putting a spin on it though. That channel has it out for Bush.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6916|Northern California
Wow, like clockwork.  Out with the competent non-Bush friendly ideology, and in with the Bush crony.  At least Patraeus is qualified....though still a crony/tool.

Why not just admit that Fallon was pulled?  Why the secrecy when it's so obvious he was made to step down.  Oh, because there's only 9 months left that the Iran attack can still happen.

***IRONCHEF PROPHECY***

I prophesy that by October, some conjured reports will appear that Iran is doing underground nuclear bomb testing qualifying a response from the US (since it's our job alone to stop nuclear proliferation).

orrrrrr.....

A false provocation from Iranian gunboats will start a quick escalation of retaliatory attacks between Iran and the US carrier groups in the St of Hormuz.


Orrrrr.......

The US will secretly bomb a bunch of people (including their own troops) and blame it on Iran prompting a quick, UN-free retaliatory strike.




Ok, in short, I prophesy that with Patraeus where Bush and Cheney want him, some sort of false provocation will occur and we'll be rocking and rolling with Iran...and I give a 50% chance that Bush/Cheney will somehow engineer some sort of executive privilege or war powers BS that will falesly negate or postpone the november elections or January inauguration.

Oh yes, mark my words..it will happen.  it will.

Last edited by IRONCHEF (2008-03-11 13:23:04)

S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6943|Montucky

IRONCHEF wrote:

Wow, like clockwork.  Out with the competent non-Bush friendly ideology, and in with the Bush crony.  At least Patraeus is qualified....though still a crony/tool.

Why not just admit that Fallon was pulled?  Why the secrecy when it's so obvious he was made to step down.  Oh, because there's only 9 months left that the Iran attack can still happen.

***IRONCHEF PROPHECY***

I prophesy that by October, some conjured reports will appear that Iran is doing underground nuclear bomb testing qualifying a response from the US (since it's our job alone to stop nuclear proliferation).

orrrrrr.....

A false provocation from Iranian gunboats will start a quick escalation of retaliatory attacks between Iran and the US carrier groups in the St of Hormuz.


Orrrrr.......

The US will secretly bomb a bunch of people (including their own troops) and blame it on Iran prompting a quick, UN-free retaliatory strike.




Ok, in short, I prophesy that with Patraeus where Bush and Cheney want him, some sort of false provocation will occur and we'll be rocking and rolling with Iran...and I give a 50% chance that Bush/Cheney will somehow engineer some sort of executive privilege or war powers BS that will falesly negate or postpone the november elections or January inauguration.

Oh yes, mark my words..it will happen.  it will.
I can't tell if you're talking out your ass or being serious.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6836|'Murka

IRONCHEF wrote:

Wow, like clockwork.  Out with the competent non-Bush friendly ideology, and in with the Bush crony.  At least Patraeus is qualified....though still a crony/tool.

Why not just admit that Fallon was pulled?  Why the secrecy when it's so obvious he was made to step down.  Oh, because there's only 9 months left that the Iran attack can still happen.

***IRONCHEF PROPHECY***

I prophesy that by October, some conjured reports will appear that Iran is doing underground nuclear bomb testing qualifying a response from the US (since it's our job alone to stop nuclear proliferation).

orrrrrr.....

A false provocation from Iranian gunboats will start a quick escalation of retaliatory attacks between Iran and the US carrier groups in the St of Hormuz.


Orrrrr.......

The US will secretly bomb a bunch of people (including their own troops) and blame it on Iran prompting a quick, UN-free retaliatory strike.




Ok, in short, I prophesy that with Patraeus where Bush and Cheney want him, some sort of false provocation will occur and we'll be rocking and rolling with Iran...and I give a 50% chance that Bush/Cheney will somehow engineer some sort of executive privilege or war powers BS that will falesly negate or postpone the november elections or January inauguration.

Oh yes, mark my words..it will happen.  it will.
Wow. Just...wow.

So Petraeus hasn't been successful in Iraq? He's only there (and likely to move on to bigger and better things) because he's a "crony"?

I would say I want some of what you're smoking, but I don't want my reality warped quite THAT much.
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SgtSlutter
Banned
+550|7062|Amsterdam, NY

IRONCHEF wrote:

Wow, like clockwork.  Out with the competent non-Bush friendly ideology, and in with the Bush crony.  At least Patraeus is qualified....though still a crony/tool.

Why not just admit that Fallon was pulled?  Why the secrecy when it's so obvious he was made to step down.  Oh, because there's only 9 months left that the Iran attack can still happen.

***IRONCHEF PROPHECY***

I prophesy that by October, some conjured reports will appear that Iran is doing underground nuclear bomb testing qualifying a response from the US (since it's our job alone to stop nuclear proliferation).

orrrrrr.....

A false provocation from Iranian gunboats will start a quick escalation of retaliatory attacks between Iran and the US carrier groups in the St of Hormuz.


Orrrrr.......

The US will secretly bomb a bunch of people (including their own troops) and blame it on Iran prompting a quick, UN-free retaliatory strike.




Ok, in short, I prophesy that with Patraeus where Bush and Cheney want him, some sort of false provocation will occur and we'll be rocking and rolling with Iran...and I give a 50% chance that Bush/Cheney will somehow engineer some sort of executive privilege or war powers BS that will falesly negate or postpone the november elections or January inauguration.

Oh yes, mark my words..it will happen.  it will.
lol
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7068
gave him all the attention he wanted.  hes just going to come back now.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6870|The Land of Scott Walker

IRONCHEF wrote:

Wow, like clockwork.  Out with the competent non-Bush friendly ideology, and in with the Bush crony.  At least Patraeus is qualified....though still a crony/tool.

Why not just admit that Fallon was pulled?  Why the secrecy when it's so obvious he was made to step down.  Oh, because there's only 9 months left that the Iran attack can still happen.

***IRONCHEF PROPHECY***

I prophesy that by October, some conjured reports will appear that Iran is doing underground nuclear bomb testing qualifying a response from the US (since it's our job alone to stop nuclear proliferation).

orrrrrr.....

A false provocation from Iranian gunboats will start a quick escalation of retaliatory attacks between Iran and the US carrier groups in the St of Hormuz.


Orrrrr.......

The US will secretly bomb a bunch of people (including their own troops) and blame it on Iran prompting a quick, UN-free retaliatory strike.




Ok, in short, I prophesy that with Patraeus where Bush and Cheney want him, some sort of false provocation will occur and we'll be rocking and rolling with Iran...and I give a 50% chance that Bush/Cheney will somehow engineer some sort of executive privilege or war powers BS that will falesly negate or postpone the november elections or January inauguration.

Oh yes, mark my words..it will happen.  it will.
No fair copying and pasting off the DNC website ...
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7115|Tampa Bay Florida

Stingray24 wrote:

No fair copying and pasting off the DNC website ...
And I guess the RNC website are the ones spreading around the rumor that Obamas a muslim?
Magpie
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6836|'Murka

Spearhead wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

No fair copying and pasting off the DNC website ...
And I guess the RNC website are the ones spreading around the rumor that Obamas a muslim?
Are there any Sky Marshals around?

Hijacking in progress...
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― Albert Einstein

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GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7068
how much more, if at all, effective will Petraeus be at the top?
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6836|'Murka

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

how much more, if at all, effective will Petraeus be at the top?
My guess is he could align the engagement strategy AOR-wide to take his experience and knowledge with the Islamic culture into account. He's got a better grip on that than Abizaid did, and Abizaid was theoretically closer to the culture than Petraeus.

One of the guys in my office speculated he might be heading to NATO to shore up the Afghan effort, but my money's on CENTCOM.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
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I heard my old division commander will be the one to replace him. Chiarelli.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6836|'Murka

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

I heard my old division commander will be the one to replace him. Chiarelli.
Haven't heard of him. Figured it would be Odierno, but he just rotated back to the Pentaghetto.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
IRONCHEF
Member
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I'm sorry, can any of you give a reason why Fallon was "retired?"  Bush hired with giving him praise and citations of his qualifications.  Then after Fallon (and countless other qualified persons) said Iran was no good, he yanks him.

And how is this DNC material?  This is common sense and it's precedented with 8 years of this BS.  Seriously, the White House is ALONE in the WHOLE WORLD on invading Iran.  US Intelligence is against it, highly decorated military both retired and active have voiced against it..fallon among them.  It's not even a debate that the White House is trying to drum up more war...it's what they do, and they can't do it with non-cronies.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6836|'Murka

IRONCHEF wrote:

I'm sorry, can any of you give a reason why Fallon was "retired?"  Bush hired with giving him praise and citations of his qualifications.  Then after Fallon (and countless other qualified persons) said Iran was no good, he yanks him.

And how is this DNC material?  This is common sense and it's precedented with 8 years of this BS.  Seriously, the White House is ALONE in the WHOLE WORLD on invading Iran.  US Intelligence is against it, highly decorated military both retired and active have voiced against it..fallon among them.  It's not even a debate that the White House is trying to drum up more war...it's what they do, and they can't do it with non-cronies.
Gates and every senior US military commander has advised against military action against Iran. They all still have their jobs. Your logic simply fails.

Maybe...just maybe...Fallon resigned for the reason he stated.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
IRONCHEF
Member
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Dude, Gates even said he's leaving partly because of the perception that he's against Bush's aggressiveness against Iran.  Google a little.

And seriously, are ANY of the resignations from Bush's cabinet and his governement for normal reasons? lol

Don't make me bust out the liberal blog citations that will ruin your whole day.  The dude that said an attack on Iran will not happen on his watch, just "resigned."  Doesn't that touch a little curiosity?  And his replacement is someone who goes along with Bush's dictates and whims?  There's no tinfoil hat wearing about it, this is the real deal.

yes, my prophecies were meant to be half fun, but the general notion that this is a last ditch effort to war with Iran are not even close to being far fetched.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7115|Tampa Bay Florida

FEOS wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

I heard my old division commander will be the one to replace him. Chiarelli.
Haven't heard of him. Figured it would be Odierno, but he just rotated back to the Pentaghetto.
You really call it that?  lol.  Or did you just make that up?  (IDK if you've served, sry)

Last edited by Spearhead (2008-03-11 14:09:55)

FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6836|'Murka

Spearhead wrote:

FEOS wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

I heard my old division commander will be the one to replace him. Chiarelli.
Haven't heard of him. Figured it would be Odierno, but he just rotated back to the Pentaghetto.
You really call it that?  lol.  Or did you just make that up?  (IDK if you've served, sry)
That's what we call it inside the building.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6836|'Murka

IRONCHEF wrote:

Dude, Gates even said he's leaving partly because of the perception that he's against Bush's aggressiveness against Iran.  Google a little.
After you Google, read a little. Or watch videos of Gates a little.

Then put aside your conspiracy theories and attempt some rational thought a little.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6916|Northern California

FEOS wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

Dude, Gates even said he's leaving partly because of the perception that he's against Bush's aggressiveness against Iran.  Google a little.
After you Google, read a little. Or watch videos of Gates a little.

Then put aside your conspiracy theories and attempt some rational thought a little.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/11/fallon-resigns/

Read and chill dude.  There's even a video here of Gates saying WHY HE IS RESIGNING.  Sure it's linked from a liberal blog but I assure you it's not Mike Moore doing puppets and out of context screen captures imitating Gates.
usmarine
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S3v3N wrote:

I can't tell if you're talking out your ass or being serious.
I think you know the answer.

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